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stanis.larochelle
Cymro
If you downloaded the update you would find out ....
However the answer was already in this thread ...
Yes it is now optional!
stanis.larochelle
Laziness......😂😂
ByAzura
Barcelona and Crystal Palace both had their home kit changed, changing the colours of the club forcing every screen that uses those colours to be near unreadable cause of dark red text on dark blue background.
Arsenals been given their new third kit, but not their away kit.
Having to go through the club changes file everytime a new update is released and removing these edited kits is kind of annoying, especially as they're only half done.
Medmax
Thank you very much Rob, you're the man!!! I imagine it took a lot of your time to apply the change.
Know that we are a lot to appreciate your contribution to the FM community
Dinoc_PG
As a result you can see below that Real Madrid's away kit doesn't appear.
naspa01
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Pfeffer
http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20170619/SPORTS/170619607
Cymro
You can submit this yourself ... here ... https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update
That is not really an issue from our end ... we have stated that it might conflict with things like this. I don't think hammer9 is going to look into it and from our end it could be complicated.
Alex Mahone
When I download the data update and try to start a new game with the Custom Date + real Fixtures that come along the file, I get an error message related to the Fixture nations..ENG, FRA, GER, etc..
Does anybody here have the same error? Are those files conflicting?
Thank you very much for the brilliant work!
Cheers
Medmax
Sorry to go back to it but am I the only one having this problem? Suarez being paid more than Messi or Neymar? Sergio Ramos or Toni Kroos' wage almost similar to Messi?
Ex of Dani Alves:
- real life: 14M euros/year at PSG, so 1.160.000 euros/month Source
- sortitoutsi update: 311.000 euros/month before tax (165.000 after tax).
The same with Neymar or Messi, they are paid half of what Ronaldo is earning (in the update) compare to in real life.
In EUROS monthly in the 17.3 original DB:
Tevez 2.964.000
Ronaldo 2.932.000
Bale 2.328.000
Lavezzi 2.076.000
Oscar 2.012.000
Suarez 1.950.000
Neymar 1.893.000 in the updated DB (initially 2.500.000 in 17.3 DB)
Messi 1.716.000 in the updated DB (initially 3.333.000 in 17.3 DB)
Kroos 1.676.000
Ramos 1.553.000
Witsel 1.473.000
Except Messi and Neymar, they're all untouched from the original 17.3 DB
I read in different news Lukaku earning between 200.000£ and 300.000£/week = 10 to 15M £/year = 11 to 16M euros/year.= between 900.000 to 1.330.000 euros/month
In my save with the updated DB, he earns 600.000 euros/month, and Ibrahimovic earning 660.000 euros/month (earning much less than Mikthitarian (800.000, Mata (900.000), De Gea (1M) and Pogba (1.5M))
Thanks to have a look at it. I can't open the file and change it myself in the editor
EDIT: I thought the minus 1 year contract was on a separate file. I started a new save and didn' activate the "reduced contract file" (neither the "increased player's age" one)
- The players signing a 5 year deal this summer ending in 2022 in real life have their contract ending in 2021 in game instead (Neymar, Lukaku, Morata, Aurier, Bernardo Silva, Walker...)
- and in 2022 instead of 2023 (Ceballos, Theo Hernandez, Forsberg, Davinson Sanchez, Benjamin Mendy, Lozano...)
BUT:
- Ndidi signing until 2022 in real life appears the same in game (2022)
- players extending their contract have the same date real life/updated database matching (2022: Bale, Lloris, Forsberg, Carrasco, Alli, Kane...)
Sorry Rob, as mentioned in a previous comment I made on page 2, I asked if the real contract dates could be restored and it seems that's what was to happen. I know the game starts in July 2016 but up to now, the sortitousi update has always took into account the real life data (end of contract year) and not the lenght (4 or 5 years deal). Meaning when a player signs a contract until June 2022, that's what I'd like to see in game, and not June 2021 just to match the initial start game. Keep in mind that even if the game starts in July 2016, the players' age match this date.
Is this a new direction with the sortitoutsi update? This opinion may or may not be shared by everyone but I just don't understand this as it makes the game "less" real for me. The Football Manager is a "simulation" based on real life data. It should match let's say Transfermakt website (in terms of contract ending dates) as a reference and not "adapted".
Again, I'm not complaining and just trying to be constructive here. Each year, I only swear by this website update MATCHING reality in terms of wages (approximately) and contract dates but not really keen on the minus 1 year.
Is there a way to have a DB with the real life contract dates? Thank you very much
Medmax
Footygamer
In terms of the years. I don't really get it but I'm happy to try and consider what everyone wants. To explain from my position, people want a data update to replicate real life, there has never been a real life situation where Arsenal have Lacazette and have Ozil and Sanchez still with 2 years on their contract. To release an update where that's the case is totally unrealistic. So we change it so Ozil and Sanchez have one year left. The specific number listed on their contracts saying 2017 instead of 2018 doesn't seem as important as the realism factor of having their contracts expiring soon.
In terms of catering for everyone. Unfortunately due to the nature of the hourly updates building two seperate updates that cater for everyone is too much load on the server. We could perhaps do it as a daily alternative but it's not something I've had the time to look into.
ByAzura
Zlatan's Wages are correct. He took a large paycut when he rejoined Man Utd.
From over 300k a week to 125k a week.
Medmax
The thing is I always start with no transfer budget and like to try to "freeze" the squads at the beginning. I worry that if all the contracts are reduced by one year, it may accelerate the "big" transfers process (Griezmann to Bayern, Lewandowski to Real, Benzema to United, etc... you get my point) and I prefer when this happen the lastest in game (even though there's no control on it).
Just wondering, is there a way to open the file in the editor so I won't have to bother no one with this? Since this is an XML document format and not a FMF, I can't acces it.
ByAzura, thanks mate, I'm certain of some mistakes in the salary (Dani Alves 12/14M, Messi, Neymar 45M, Cavani 10/12M, Thiago Motta , Aurier 6M, Dembele 12M euros/year...) but others that I'm not sure (Lukaku, Morata, Coutinho, Ibrahimovic, Benjamin Mendy, Bernardo Silva, Matic...). That's why I used "may" and thought people will be more knowledgeable than me as they play in the British Premier League.
Thank you guys
Footygamer
@Medmax (or anyone else) if you go to Messi's player history (where you left a comment) and click "Download" on the enabled change then you can get a file with JUST the Messi based changes. This would be a good way to test if it's a problem with our system or one of the base files (possibly one of the FMF files is interfering).
https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/player/7458500
Footygamer
EDIT: probably fixed, once the next build happens at 3pm try again
Medmax
- I downloaded the last "enabled" with JUST the Messi change
- I started a save with JUST the Messi file activated in the editor data file
And here is the result:
EDIT: Ok, just reading your 2nd message. I'm glad you found the issue
Medmax
Thank you Rob, you definitely fixed the problem and the salaries are much more in tune with reality. Thank you for your time.
coach.ita
Or are there any major upgrades (team budgeting)?
Thank you for the great work !!!
knotclown
Cymro
Yes ... it has been said in other posts ... maybe in this thread also ...
No CA/PA changes ...
Finances are now being worked on ...
stanis.larochelle
knotclown
it's Current and Potential Ability
Vitor Wilson
VP.
You need to make sure there are no other update files being used, only the Sortitoutsi files. Also you need to be playing the game via Steam, not a Torrent/downloaded copy.
Footygamer
When FM18 comes out we'll update FM17 with that data. But we won't use anything other than official SI data for things like finances, CA, PA and player attributes
TheMinsterman
coach.ita
Will other championships also be updated? Premier League already ok?
Thanks
TheMinsterman
I'll likely tweak other leagues too yes, priority was the "big five" as that is where most of the money is which has a big impact on the big transfers AI will go for etc.
ByAzura
Are you going to finish editing the kit colours in the file?
You've got a bunch of teams half done. A bunch of clubs have one of their new kits added, but still have their old ones for the other two.
I've had to go through and delete as many as I could so they didn't override the changes made by SSKPC's.