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No the crowd are a disgrace. Far too many arrogant fans who expect Newcastle to steamroller any opposition. Booing a bad shot or cross is simply unacceptable.

I don't even like (and never have) Pardew, and I despise rhetoric about the crowd being the '12th man', but in SJP it's a poisonous atmosphere that erodes all confidence and composure, and leads to the conceding off soft goals and the inability to actually play well. Hopefully the crowds will drop and the performances will come back. They boo backwards passes ffs.

Plus I can't stand all the fair weather fans who backed Pardew last year and Ashley's transfer policy and acted all smug, and now complain all the time about them now.

Poisonous atmospheres never help but the generation of such things begins if the players don't offer any reasons to be cheerful, and especially over long stretches like this entire season has provided. We had to win this one today and for the majority of it we were, but then Pardew threw it away with some spectacularly inept changes.

If there's nothing to be optimistic about, people will turn and there really is nothing to be optimistic about in our current situation. I am incredibly pessimistic about the team at times but I have been positive that, at some point, we'd get our act together. Today though was evidence we can't, especially if Cabaye is injured again as Pardew claimed and if we keep playing Mike Williamson as a first choice CB.

By Deano | Permalink | On 19 January 2013 - 18:37 PM

You've only got another 7 1/2 years of Pardrew, not long really. Or a massive pay off for him.

As posted, we have a failsafe to prevent a stonking pay-off.

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Predictions for today, Chelsea 2-1 win, Manchester United 3-1 win.

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I can see Arsenal giving Chelsea a mauling to be honest. Midfield is going to be key for Chelsea, with Ramires and Lampard in the middle there isn't much defensive cover for the defence. If Arsenal control the midfield, they'll win it.

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By Verse | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 13:17 PM

I can see Arsenal giving Chelsea a mauling to be honest. Midfield is going to be key for Chelsea, with Ramires and Lampard in the middle there isn't much defensive cover for the defence. If Arsenal control the midfield, they'll win it.

Surely your not being serious? No Podolski or Chamberlain and our bench is absolutely awful, nothing gonna change the game there.

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20 Jan 2013 13:38:47

Absolute fucking piss take, clear stamp and should have been a foul. How the fuck some of these ref's get employed is beyond me.

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20 Jan 2013 13:46:45

Fuck me, once again our awful midfield play costs us.

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20 Jan 2013 13:46:51

Ridiculous that the foul on Cocquelin went unpunished in the build up to the Mata goal.

Oh, well done Szczesny. Fucking hell.

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20 Jan 2013 13:47:24

It's frightening how awful we are without Arteta in our side.

ARSENE, FUCKING BUY SOMEONE. WE NEED PLAYERS.

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20 Jan 2013 13:48:39

Also, why the fuck is Walcott taking corners? He's awful. Get Cazorla on them.

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20 Jan 2013 13:53:00

Its fucking terrible, watch us when we have the ball, no one to pass to, no movement, no one willing to drive the team on, no urgency whatsoever. Its the usual go 50 yards forward, but as its done so slowly we end up going 40 yards back and the opposition are back in position.

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20 Jan 2013 13:56:17

On second look, the penalty doesn't seem so clear-cut. Ramires seems to just fall over Szczesny's leg as opposed to Szczesny actually taking out his footing.

http://cadfael.tv/image/src/1358689675493.gif

Still, we can't defend for love nor money,

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Our game is becoming increasingly doubtful apparently, snow forecast to get heavier around Tottenham and although the pitch looks fine the surronding area could get bad.

I really hope it doesn't get cancelled, we can do without a tough game midweek when the congestion is bad enough already.

By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 13:56 PM

On second look, the penalty doesn't seem so clear-cut. Ramires seems to just fall over Szczesny's leg as opposed to Szczesny actually taking out his footing.

Still, we can't defend for love nor money,

I reckon that probably is a penalty, Ramires has just mugged Szczesny off. He's obviously looking for it, but Szczesny obliges. The fact he throws his arm up straight away tells you that Szczesny knows he's been stupid.

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20 Jan 2013 13:59:14

Yeah I don't think it was a penalty either, he just falls over.

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20 Jan 2013 14:00:17

Sagna caught again, so hope this is his last season. Wilshere and Diaby up until now have done fuck all, Diaby seems to need 5 mins on the ball and Wilshere is just strolling around waving his arms at everyone else. Cazorla is waisted on the left but then thats what happens when both Podolski and Chamberlain are missing.

At least we have a strong bench, oh wait...

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20 Jan 2013 14:00:55

We've been pretty awful but it's so fucking annoying that both goals have come due to poor refereeing decisions. Does my head in.

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20 Jan 2013 14:08:44

Why is Santi Cazorla not the at the centre of everything Arsenal do? He's not even taking the set-pieces.

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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 14:08 PM

Why is Santi Cazorla not the at the centre of everything Arsenal do? He's not even taking the set-pieces.

It's a joke that he's not taking the corners, but with Podolski and Oxlade-Chamberlain out we've been forced to shove him out on the wing. It was either that or sticking Ramsey there.

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20 Jan 2013 14:12:43

Chelsea have been far better, but it should still be 0-0. I thought he was going to book Ramires for diving.

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20 Jan 2013 14:14:51

Definate Pen, if Szcezney isn't in that position there and then, its a goal.

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20 Jan 2013 14:15:44

Giroud should have scored before any of the talking points, can't see him getting a better chance.

As for Cazorla, for me its simply because Wilshere is back and he seems to be given complete control over everything, fuck knows why.

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By Jay. | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 14:14 PM

Definate Pen, if Szcezney isn't in that position there and then, its a goal.

Even though he barely touched him? If at all?

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If Walcott wants to be a centre forward then he needs to learn to stay onside

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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 15:00 PM

We've been pretty awful but it's so fucking annoying that both goals have come due to poor refereeing decisions. Does my head in.

1st one was a foul. 2nd one is a stonewall penalty. Contact is a contact and he is lucky not to see red.

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This isn't even a competition. Arsenal are getting absolutely hammered.

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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 14:16 PM

Even though he barely touched him? If at all?

He did touch him though didn't he?

It's stupid goalkeeping, if you leave a leg out like that in the box there is no player in world football who won't take that gift. You can call it a dive, or exaggerating contact or playing for the foul or whatever but at this level (in fact, at almost any level) you would expect a player to go over a leg left dangling like that, it would be stupid not to.

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By Flash. | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 15:19 PM

This isn't even a competition. Arsenal are getting absolutely hammered.

They are looking more dangerous now in last minutes, they will probably play on counters in 2nd half.

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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 14:10 PM

It's a joke that he's not taking the corners, but with Podolski and Oxlade-Chamberlain out we've been forced to shove him out on the wing. It was either that or sticking Ramsey there.

It's ridiculous. He's one of the best players in the league (and probably your best player) and he's been relegated to an after-thought.

By A Little Bit Of Merson Magic | Permalink | On 20 January 2013 - 14:15 PM

As for Cazorla, for me its simply because Wilshere is back and he seems to be given complete control over everything, fuck knows why.

Also ridiculous, Wilshere's a good player and he's going to get better, but between the fact Cazorla is better and Wilshere has been out for more than 12 months, Cazorla should not be stuck out on the wing (and stuck behind Walcott when it comes to set-pieces).

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I thought Wilshere could play wide anyway?

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