English Premier League 2012/2013

All I'm worried about is the state of Howard Webb's eyesight.

If he's actually looked at that elbow and thought it was a genuine attempt to play the ball then he's a moron, if he's looked at it and seen nothing wrong then he's clearly blind. Same with Tiote's stamp btw before anybody goes off it.

He's so pro-Man Utd it's ridiculous.

VP got away with it because he said it was inconclusive. Which I think is probably fair enough, it was a bit silly, but I don't think you can watch that video and say, even when you slow it down frame by frame, exactly what happened and what the intent was.

Tiote got away with it because Webb had already 'dealt' with it.

All I'm worried about is the state of Howard Webb's eyesight.

If he's actually looked at that elbow and thought it was a genuine attempt to play the ball then he's a moron, if he's looked at it and seen nothing wrong then he's clearly blind. Same with Tiote's stamp btw before anybody goes off it.

He's so pro-Man Utd it's ridiculous.

Inconclusive, really??

There was no reason for his elbow to be that high in the first place when he was away from the ball and making a run into the box.

That ref 'dealt with it' rule really needs to be changed, they should be retro-actively red carding players for that kind of thing even if the referee didn't think it was that bad in real time. Even if it would have cost us a three game ban this time around.

Yeah but he also doesn't really throw it back at Cabaye at any real force. It's more like he brushes past him, with his elbow inexplicably at shoulder height than an elbow like the one Rooney got away with against Wigan a few seasons back.

Was only a page ago that people complained about Liverpool fans deflecting what Suarez does

His elbows at head height !!!

Surely that's making it harder for him to run and get separation from Cabaye. I can't think of a single reason why his elbow would be that high apart from to hit Cabaye in the face. Just because he doesn't put a huge amount of force into it doesn't matter, if you raise your hit another player with your hand it's a red regardless of force, I don't see why an elbow should be any different (with the possible exception of when jumping for a ball).

Yeah, fair enough it's not something that happens often and it isn't an issue solely with Man Utd or RVP. But I think that needs to change, the FA do need to retroactively ban people for elbowing amongst other things.

I more suprised at Ninja's attempts to absolve RVP of blame

He's running along with his arms low, gets near Cabaye raises them and swings one back behind him then returns to running along with his arms low again. He looks at Cabaye so you can't really say he didn't know where Cabaye was.

Your calling it inexplicable, but it's not, it's just the only reason is he's attempting to make contact with Cabaye.

All I can find is that Webb decided on review it wasn't worthy of a straight red. In my eyes he was deliberately trying to hit Cabaye and it should be a red, but what's done is done and in context of the game it wouldn't have made too much difference I don't think.

No I'm saying it's inexplicable because there is virtually no force.

And if he's not trying to hurt Cabaye, why is he doing that in the first place?

That's why i find it inexplicable, because I can't think of an explanation.

Where did you come to that conclusion?

The last few pages of this thread have made for terrible reading. Fuck you to everyone who's posted their bullshit and made my crap day even worse. I hate each and every one of you.

Stop trying to deflect attention onto others because it makes out like you're justifying his actions, its a crap defence, why are you talking about other players etc etc etc.

This will cheer you up.

Are you being serious? To give two easy examples, Ashley Young got booed by opposition fans for about 5 matches after he dived twice last season as well as everybody going on about it for weeks. Welbeck went down easily this season winning a penalty (which we missed) and we had at least a week of histrionics about him too.

The reason Suarez attracts more attention than the rest is because nobody does it quite like him, he adds to his divography on a weekly basis, screaming like an electrocuted human-rat as he does it.

It's not some bloody anti-Liverpool conspiracy, it's just out of all the diving pricks, you've just got the biggest one.

Chief executive Charles Green believes Rangers will be involved in the formation of a new European league.
Green's consortium relaunched the Ibrox club after the former incarnation could not be saved from liquidation.
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I'm convinced it will happen because otherwise where will the revenues for the top come from
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Rangers currently play in Scottish Football League Division Three.

"There will be a European league because big teams can't keep subsidising small teams for the next 10 years because they will go stale," said Green.

"Arsenal don't want to play Southampton or Swansea, but ask them if they want to play Celtic or Rangers. It's what the fans want to see.

"Fans across the world want to see Manchester United play Barcelona, not just once every few years but every season."

Green is convinced Rangers would be part of any new European league.

"If there are two divisions of 18 clubs, how could Rangers not be a part of that?" he asked. "I'm convinced it will happen because otherwise where will the revenues for the top come from? These days Arsenal are struggling to sell out their game against West Ham."

Last month, BBC Scotland revealed Scottish clubs, including Rangers, were to discuss the possibility of being part of a new European regional league set-up.

Uefa is believed to be open to change as it grows increasingly concerned by the polarisation between the top clubs and top leagues.
Green added: "How can Manchester United's revenues be £320m and Aston Villa, who are completely useless, get £250m?

"What Manchester United put into world football is massive, but what they take out of it is a joke and they won't put up with that for much longer."