Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive

Where can we contribute to the project? I can't seem to find a link to a contribution page even though it was mentioned in the announcement.

It's not a replacement, usually we stop updating old games as soon as a new one came out, now they'll be two projects sortitoutsi which will continue as normal updating new games, fm25, fm26, fm27 etc and classic fm which will keep updating FM24 (and hopefully earlier versions but still TBC)

In regards contribution, you can still contribute transfers like normal, but the plan is to release a new way to be able to contribute other data like player histories but its taking a little longer than expected to release. It should be this week.

I am not thick, but I am having real trouble understanding this, despite contributing and using Sortitoutsi for many years, but I simply do not understand ClassicFM.

For it to work, do I need to replace all the previous files I've downloaded, for example - Sortitoutsi24 Update - Austria: does that need to be overwritten with the ClassicFM version?

And what does the dynamic data and non-dynamic data mean?

If someone can explain it simply to me, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

As far as the core data update is concerned, if you have a previous SortItOutSI Data Update and you have now downloaded the one branded as ‘Classic FM’ - you will want to replace the former with the latter.

In practice, the previous update contained a total of 33 files, all of which start with: "sortioutsi.net FM 24 Data Update". You will want to delete all 33 of those files from your \editor data\ folder.

The core ‘Classic FM’ update contains a total of 41 files and you will want to place all of those in your \editor data\ folder.

Within the core 41 files, one of those is the ‘Non Dynamic Data’ file and that is the default way that Football Manager games work. Player abilities, club finances and other variables are fixed in every start. Now, if you want player abilities and club finances to have a level of variation between your saves, the ‘Classic FM’ update provides ten ‘flavours’ of variation that are optional to install. From the update's readme, it describes the way it works as follows:

"These files modify the player abilities and club finances for every player and club in the game. Each player is rated differently in every file, although this isn't random, they are rated within a realistic range. By using one of these files each save will be different with players having slightly different ability meaning different wonderkids and players over 30 deteriorating faster or slower."

To use one of those ‘variable’ setups, my understanding is that you'd pick one of the ‘Dynamic Data’ files (at random) and add that to your \editor data\ folder. You'd also remove the file named “Classic FM - Non Dynamic Data.fmf”. When you start a game, the ‘Dynamic Data’ file will result in some randomisation of player abilities and club finances. There is no description, that I can see, defining the specific differences between the files numbered 1-10. My guess is that they all have higher/lower levels of variance from one another.

Hello. Is it possible to add other payment methods for Classic FM Update. For example: PaySafeCard. I think more people would then buy annual access to the database. Thank you for your reply.

I've never heard of PaySafeCard what country are you based in @Kaka2000 ?

Apologies that was probably a mistake when releasing, Classic FM Austria and Sortitoutsi Austria right now are exactly the same thing, but for simplicity sake it would be worth removing the sortitoutsi versions for the calssic fm version.

In terms of these dynamic data files, does this differ from the random pa/ca mod that I already use? As for all the other features, that you are collectively charging for, these would also seem to available for free elsewhere. I'm not knocking your project, I like the idea of a new mod that will freshen up the game, but I don't see anything here that isn't already available, and I notice daveincid has disappeared off the site, a lot of what you're charging for he releases for free each month

I think we have alot more CA/PA changes that anyone else. At a glance Pr0/FMScout one has 4,530 database changes for CA/PA we have 1.1 million combined CA/PA and club finances.

I wanted to have something to show for things like new players, player histories and player injuries by now but its taking a little longer than expected, but obviously this is a long term project and those will come eventually and be much larger as well. We need to add 10s of thousands of new players, most other files only have a couple of hundred.

Hello, thanks for this one. 

Can you update Turkey League rules ? Foreign players rule is old and wrong.

• Dynamic Player Abilities
• Does it mean that the Current Ability (CA) and Potential Ability (PA) of players are randomized each time a new game is started? Or will the Potential Ability (PA) also change during the subsequent course of the game?

Hello, thanks for this amazing work. 

I have downloaded and purchased the updated database, but I can't start a game in summer 2024 (in Australia, I think I must use this league), which reflects the real promotions of the Spanish league, what am I doing wrong?

Also, if I include the "Classic FM - +1 Age and Contract Years" file, the player does not have the real age in 2024.

Best regards and thank you very much!!!

Hi,

I've purchased the update. Great job!

Is there any chance of adding Mehmet Topal as MAnager of Petrolul Ploiesti and  Sanjin Alagic as Assistant manager?

Thank you

Got a beta for this right now, should be ready in the next couple of days 🙂

The PA doesn't change, that's not possible unfortunately.

It's not designed to work in the year 2024, everything is setup to work in the year 2023 which is why ages and years are increased by one year.

Are you going to add new wonder kids into this database ? Like shim mheuka and chido obi martin, thank you 

Yep working on it today 🙂

are the European competitions updated with the new format as well?

Why is Man Utd's bank balance so high? Is it because of the INEOS investment?

Will there be a face pack available for the new Wonderkids you have added to the game? Or is there someone working on that at present?

BTW Fantastic Work !!

@JonAtko8 sorry that's not possible, FM randomises the ID of new players with every save so we can't match the ID to an image.

I'd like to try and find someone who can help with a save game editor like FMRTE to apply a facepack after the save has loaded and the ID's are known. But no progress on that front yet.

Hi,

I've just seen that there are new “dynamic new player” files which weren't there before and there isn't a lot of information on them. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that these are new wonderkids that you've added and that the dynamic files randomise their CA? Please correct me if I'm wrong

@Steelwood I don't know what it is about the sites design but for some people nobody ever seems to see the new posts on the blog, it should be on the front page and the top of the forum index, but nobody ever sees its 😅

Either way, here's a blog post: https://sortitoutsi.net/content/67393/fm2425-wonderkids-file-now-live-adding-10620-new-players-aged-21-and-under-10-optional-dynamic-files-for-adding-variation-to-every-save

And yes you're right it adds more than 10,000 new players under 21 as well as 10 dynamic files varying various attributes across saves

@Footygamer 

I've been trying to avoid debating individual balances because it'll suck hours of mine and everyone involved's life 🙂 I've been working on a platform to allow for contributions to this area the same way we do for the transfers and contracts, it's just taking a while unfortunately.

No worries 👍🏻

Any idea when it would be ready? Thanks.

Hi, Sorry if this has already been asked or mentioned - but will the game start date remain as in FM24, i.e. 2023? Or will this be updated to 2024 and next year to 2025, and so on? 

Thanks a lot for your good work!

Same as FM24.

I currently don't have the game installed but noticed that a relative of mine has been added after viewing the email, any chance someone can post a screenshot of Alfie Lynskey from Aston Villa. Would much appreciate it