FM24 CA/PA and Attributes Updates

Appreciate all of your submissions - those CA/PA submissions for players in the original database are still a work-in-progress to integrate. There's no specific timeline I can share - the Site Admin may be able to offer more detail on that front.

 

The original plan was to allow people to download their own submissions only, first (so people can play with ‘their values’) but so far this, too, has not been configured. I would expect the plan to be to get the CA/PA updates integrated into the Data Update in the course of this summer hopefully.

Please when will the CA/PA submissions be integrated into the database update, cause that's the only reason i paid now 10 pounds and it's not the case…some players are still not rated as they should even though submissions have been sent and and approved, weeks ago

The CA/PA submissions, at present, continue to require manual processing in order to be part of the overall Data Update. With that in mind, at the moment, the aim is to update the file that contains them on approximately a monthly basis. In terms of the next planned update, it is going to be ‘any day now’ - to coincide with the closure of the European transfer window(s). Naturally, we expected a lot of submissions associated with players moving clubs - which has been the case.

 

I do believe the plan remains to automate this so it is integrated/iterated on a daily basis, but that piece of development work hasn't happened yet. As I am not the site owner, I genuinely can't share any more detail/info than that, at this time, as I don't know any more.

 

If you feel you would like a refund on the basis of being misled about what was included and/or the rate of updates, please make a post in the following thread and the site owner will review that accordingly: https://sortitoutsi.net/content/57415/all-issues-with-premium-membership-post-here?page=21#comment_839129.

Will there be a clear announcement/post when each CA/PA update is integrated into a daily update?

AFAIK it is not obvious, especially without the in game editor, to see if it has been updated.

 

Thanks

I am sure we could arrange an announcement/clear indication (in any/all relevant places) once that pivot to daily updates is made, yes.

The latest build of the CA/PA community submissions is underway as I type this. There has been some (small) delay, owing to various other priorities - including troubleshooting some issues with the Data Update (unrelated), but also some important development work being done on other site functionality.

 

Some of that work is, importantly, a direct precursor to integrating the CA/PA submissions into a daily update flow. That isn't the case effective immediately, but it is close.

 

I would expect a new CA/PA update to be integrated into the main Data Update within the next 24 hours. I've also made the suggestion around visibly publishing the ‘last update’ timestamp - that is a task for the Site Administrator/Owner to decide on and implement, assuming it is feasible to do so.

@Osarogie @thehet @andynufc10 @oopsupsideyourhead @ryanpark - tagging those who have specifically asked about this recently.

 

Just to confirm, a latest build of the CA/PA update (which is part of the Enhanced/Classic FM Data Update) was performed. It was finalised this morning, about 60 minutes ago.

 

To that end, it will be included from tomorrow's update onwards (unfortunately, it was completed too late for the build that was released about 7 hours ago).

 

On the note of presenting the ‘last update’ on the download page systematically, we are not going to do that because we are now very close to integrating these changes to be re-processed, daily, as standard - which was always the goal.

@Osarogie @thehet @andynufc10 @oopsupsideyourhead @ryanpark - tagging those who have specifically asked about this recently.

 

Just to confirm, a latest build of the CA/PA update (which is part of the Enhanced/Classic FM Data Update) was performed. It was finalised this morning, about 60 minutes ago.

 

To that end, it will be included from tomorrow's update onwards (unfortunately, it was completed too late for the build that was released about 7 hours ago).

 

On the note of presenting the ‘last update’ on the download page systematically, we are not going to do that because we are now very close to integrating these changes to be re-processed, daily, as standard - which was always the goal.

@Osarogie @thehet @andynufc10 @oopsupsideyourhead @ryanpark - tagging those who have specifically asked about this recently.

 

Just to confirm, a latest build of the CA/PA update (which is part of the Enhanced/Classic FM Data Update) was performed. It was finalised this morning, about 60 minutes ago.

 

To that end, it will be included from tomorrow's update onwards (unfortunately, it was completed too late for the build that was released about 7 hours ago).

 

On the note of presenting the ‘last update’ on the download page systematically, we are not going to do that because we are now very close to integrating these changes to be re-processed, daily, as standard - which was always the goal.

Hello - I have just downloaded the latest update with the latest ‘Non Dynamic Data’ file, but some of the CA's seems to have been removed or overwritten with their default - is this intentional?

I am fairly confident that the failure to write the updated CAs into the content of ‘Non Dynamic Data’ file is unintentional. That is something we will need to troubleshoot/bugfix. I will flag and we will get on the case ASAP - thank you for flagging.

 

In terms of the players you have observed that don't match a specific Ability Submission - this is intentional. The Ability Submissions don't work on the basis of ‘most recent overrides all others’. You'll notice that one player can have multiple Approved submissions (one per member). It factors all of these in to arrive at a final CA/PA value.

Thank you as always @M.C 👍

Hello - I have just downloaded the latest update with the latest ‘Non Dynamic Data’ file, but some of the CA's seems to have been removed or overwritten with their default - is this intentional?

 

One example is Cole Palmer - the previous ‘Non Dynamic Data’ file had his CA at 174 but the latest has removed this and now he's at the game default of 140. His attribute change on the profile submissions page has him at CA 178 as of 1st June…he’s now a “squad player” behind the likes of Garnacho 🤣

 

PA’s seem to be intact, but it is looking like some players who were upgraded in the last ‘Non Dynamic Data’ update have potentially had their CA removed/overwritten in the current update - couple of others I noticed were Ekitike, Amad Diallo.

 

There are obviously some players that have been upgraded such as Woltemade (although doesn’t match his attribute change on the profile submissions page).

 

I have only had a quick scan – apologies if this has already been highlighted, or it is intentional.

FWIW, my very basic, working theory for now is that - perhaps - in the processing of the data there was a ‘cutoff’ point and so only players who have had CA/PA submissions more recently than X date have ended up being committed into the file. But I'll be honest - that is pure guesswork. I don't personally have any way to query the back-end site data and I am also not personally involved in the actual ‘data processing’ activity. Also, as I'm sure you can appreciate, the output in the FMF is extensive and consists of many, many records - so pinning down a root-cause in those circumstances, for me alone, is tricky.

Hello, is there a way the i can get a rollback of the update to download, like download the upate that was released yesterday 

Sorry about the issue with the Non Dynamic Data.

 

The problem is fixed now and will be in the next update.

 

To explain the problem basically when it's building the file it compares the new value to the original value from FM and doesn't add an entry if it's the same.

 

But recently I did a big import to our guide section and was accidentally getting the  “original value from FM” as the value from our FM Update not FM24 base game, so wasn't writing entries when it was the same which would obviously be often.

Sorry about the issue with the Non Dynamic Data.

 

The problem is fixed now and will be in the next update.

 

To explain the problem basically when it's building the file it compares the new value to the original value from FM and doesn't add an entry if it's the same.

 

But recently I did a big import to our guide section and was accidentally getting the  “original value from FM” as the value from our FM Update not FM24 base game, so wasn't writing entries when it was the same which would obviously be often.

Sorry about the issue with the Non Dynamic Data.

 

The problem is fixed now and will be in the next update.

 

To explain the problem basically when it's building the file it compares the new value to the original value from FM and doesn't add an entry if it's the same.

 

But recently I did a big import to our guide section and was accidentally getting the  “original value from FM” as the value from our FM Update not FM24 base game, so wasn't writing entries when it was the same which would obviously be often.

Yes, it will be live in tomorrow’s update (which is the next one).

Was the non dynamic data updated? I downloaded the update and seems it wasn't - thanks in advance for everything btw!