Missing directors of football

Hi, did u noticed that many of directors of football such as Berta, Viana in Premier league has director function, not playable director of football, or sport director?

This is data update bug? 

its something else SI didnt add in

I mean in fm 24 update, many of directors of football has finction director and was non playable, if i change it for director of football it ll works

On FM26 I’ve changed most of the director of footballs role in the data update now.

@LBOW6 if you see that there are mass problems like this please let me know and then wait for me to take a look without trying to fix them via submissions yourself.

Hugo Viana already has Director of Football in the Pre Game Editor.

When you make a submission you're not updating the sites data, the FM26 profiles on the site will still be wrong (as you can see with Viana here), you're creating a file for the data update saying that we need to create xml/fmf to change that data in the pre game editor which is wrong, because the data is right in the pre game editor, it's just wrong on our website.

The only way to get it fixed is to ask me to fix the import scripts and do another import. If the scripts aren't updated it'll just keep being wrong again in the future.

I realise it's confusing and apologies for that, definitely not trying to criticise and I appreciate your attempts at trying to fix it 🙏

@Bielsa is a legend can you be careful answering questions incorrectly? As far as I can tell SI haven't made a mistake here, the sites data is wrong. If i've misunderstood can you please try and explain in more detail so I understand.

noted. i misread the query

@Footygamer OK - I have only noticed it for Premier League DoFs, I don’t know if this is a wider issue?

@Footygamer It is a wider issue, almost all dofs and presidents are buggy friends :/

Hey, I spotted this aswell. Chelsea DoF is also put as a director rather that DoF. Anyway we can get around this issue?

Not something I have explored. I don’t know if @Footygamer has looked into this?

A new import is happening tomorrow.

However there is also a thing where the game now uses a universal “chairperson” and then for each club has a field called “chairperson title” which then defines the text used such as director or what not.

Which means the site has to be updated to accommodate that and people making submissions have to learn to understand it.

This was fixed around the last time I posted on here. But just redownloaded the data set and it seems to have gone back to the same issue again.

Sorry if this is not the right place to post issues with the FM24 data update.

In the latest file, Tom Wagner is specified as the Director of Football, but he is the Chairman

Also, is there any way of including Birmingham City's new Powerhouse stadium and stadium move in 2030?

Cheers!

In the very latest file today, Tom Wagner isn't even in the staff roster now?

Craig Gardner is listed as a director, but he is the Director of Football

The Chinese dudes are no longer on the board.

Here are the official job titles - https://www.bcfc.com/pages/en/board-management

I am 99% certain these issues have been present since the 12th December

@tommy2095702 sorry can you be more clear in your report, i'm not even sure if you're reporting that there is an issue with FM24 or with FM26?

Please try and give specific examples I can look into.

The comment you quoted was in regards how FM26 stores chairperson job titles in the editor, nothing has been “fixed” in that regard, FM26 still works the same way it did at lunch.

I assume you are referring to something else though.

I've only just seen this after asking you to post a specific topic in the home thread. I've merged your other topic with this existing discussion.

I can see the problem with Tom Wagner, he is listed as a “free agent” in our latest DB which is why he's not appearing when you start a game.

That needs to be fixed since he is listed as Chairperson of Birmingham in FM26.

I've no idea why these imports are not working I have attempted to fix it 5+ times now.

I will try and do another import tomorrow.

To be clear using the submission system to try and fix problems in our DB is not the right way to go about it, our DB should reflect what is actually in FM, if there is an issue with the export/import and that's fixed with submissions that's only going to confuse things more.

Of course I realise you were only trying to help fix things i'm just trying to explain things (and probably not doing a very good job of it).

As requested, some detail on the current Staff data issues found on the FM24 Enhanced Update.

I play as Sheffield United, so can generally only speak to them but I suspect these issues are across other teams.

• Owners/Chairman missing or random - SUFC have new owners, reflected correctly in the FM26 base game. However these have not been updated in the FM24 update. I have managed to set the MD correctly to Stephen Bettis which is now shown in my FM24, though he does not have a “profile” to view. I am not sure if it is possible to have the current ownership IDs (Steven Rosen 2000434156 Helmy Eltoukhy 2000434157) brought over from FM26 correctly without having to do this all manually for every club. Meanwhile, the previous Saudi owners are now available to recruit as unemployed non-playing coaches! It seems most, if not all, clubs have got the randomly assigned ownership structure. I also don't know how this affects things like takeovers or whether that would just be a cosmetic thing.

• Secondary Roles - Some staff (e.g. Tom Little 29024887) have mysteriously gained a secondary role having never had one previously, nor has anyone submitted a data change. I suspect this is due to something in FM26 data but I have not confirmed this.

** Note this issue is okay, but ought to be evidence based…

• Random New Staff - (e.g. Mekhi Haughton-Parris 2000199180) is now a coach in the FM24 update. Aside not a current coach, nor having ever been a coach, he is also unable to be edited in the data so it is somewhat of a mystery how this change has occurred. Something FM26 related?

I hope this helps, as I say it's no gamebreaker but having Rodney Trotter set your objectives for the season and being able to sign a Saudi Prince as First Team Coach is a little odd!

@thehet  I've merged your topic with other ones on the same subject.

Also @bluemonkeymagic I address some of your reports here as well

I've made a number of changes today which will either be live already if you pay for the enhanced version or go live in tonights update if you are using the free daily one.

Creating new Owners/Chairman

I haven't made any efforts to create non players such as club owners in FM24. I can add it to the todo list but I haven't seen it as a priority.

Saudi Owners being coaches

I'm not 100% sure how to handle Saudi owners being able to be hired as coaches. I guess I should do a check and if they have a board room job and set to retired if they have no attached club.

Random

In terms of “random” I can't tell which ones you're referring to as “random”?

Secondary Roles

Yes Tom Little does have a secondary role in FM26

Random New Staff

I'm not sure how that has happened.

But i've fixed Mekhi Haughton-Parris 2000199180

But i've just made some changes to fix around 1000 instances of this. That will be in the next update.

Owners being unemployed

I've just made some changes that may have affected upto 80,000 backroom staff including  Tom Wagner

Craig Gardner is definitely listed as technical director.

Removed board members e.g. Chinese owners

I still need to work on removing people like this

Thanks for the update FG.

To elaborate on the “random” aspect.

Every new save of FM24 (Enh.Up) most clubs seem to have a different random non-ID person as a Chairperson - seldom have i seen an owner, co-owner, a director etc. This happens irrespective of whether the real ownership structure changed between Fm24 and Fm26 (Where 24 didn’t have the new IDs). Obviously we cannot yet create new non-playing staff, but if we presume the FM26 data is correct, could it be as simple as transposing that across into FM24.

I will feedback tomorrow on your updates and where I can provide other examples to help I will.

Appreciate the work as always!

So an update on the staff situation on the latest FM24 update.

Directors/owners are in place - though some are outdated… e.g. Manchester United has all the Glazers… Sheffield United have all the Saudi's still… so the FM24 update is not aligned with 2026's data.

Also interesting finding… George Willis (28059685) is supposedly the Under 21's Manager, in game he is a First Team Coach, causing the coaching staff to be inflated.

Likewise Jim O'Brien (5209579) is supposed to be the Under-18s Manager… same story as above.

Overnight the update has appeared to remove a U18s coach or two too…

Not sure if this kind of thing is happening across other teams as I tend to play as one.

Edit: Also noticed as has been mentioned elsewhere, the National Teams are now empty of staff.

After the latest update, I show youth players from all countries that are of English nationality

Thanks - we're aware of this issue and working on resolving it. We will keep everyone updated via https://sortitoutsi.net/content/60588/data-update-home-thread in terms of a fix being rolled out. Apologies for the inconvenience.

Thanks for answer, but this problem lasts from a week and repeats after each update.

I don't think this particular fault has been in the Data Update that long. In fact, it was specifically introduced during 16th January, at around 20:00 GMT. I know this because I am fairly confident that the cause of this error being introduced was a piece of work conducted by the Site Admin to tackle another fairly prominent error - which was causing about 15,000 players to have their CA/PA randomised.

Unfortunately, because the cause of the current issue (the nationality issue) is something to do with the way the automated data processing works, the staff team are reliant on the support of the Site Admin to help resolve it. Given it is the weekend, it is highly likely this will have to wait until at least tomorrow to be addressed. That's not an excuse, just a practical reality.

Again, I can only apologise for the inconvenience. In terms of an immediate workaround, the best/only thing I can suggest is to retrieve the version of the Data Update from 16th January 2025 from https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/releases (specifically, V5208 for FM24.3 or V70 for FM26.0) and use the ‘Contracts.fmf’ file (only) from that version.

This will mean that any people changes (transfers, contracts and newly-created players) from the past 48 hours will be updated, but the nationality bug will be gone. If you use the ‘Contracts.fmf' file from that version alongside all other files from the latest version, you should have a version of the update that does not have the nationality issue, nor the randomised CA/PA issue I mentioned earlier. As I say, it's a workaround - but it's the only thing I can suggest for right now.

I personally do as much as I am able, as often as I am able, to help move data issues forward quickly - but there is a limit to what I can do and where there is a requirement for others to also help, we need to be mindful that they will have other life responsibilities so we cannot get to everything immediately.