Data Update Home Thread

Just to confirm - the issue was resolved in the course of yesterday. All should be back to normal in the Data Update.

Cristiano Junior is Portuguese in database updat is from england, enzo alves to born england in game,but he is from spain

Just downloaded the latest update for fm24 and all the international teams are managerless.

All the new young players are English

update fm 26

I just wanted to post to acknowledge the issue with newly-created players all being ‘reset’ to English in the current Data Update. I believe this is equally impacting both the FM24 and FM26 Data Update.

In addition, I would like to acknowledge the report regarding international managers. I have been able to replicate that, too.

These are issues that we will need to tackle via some re-processing, centrally, of data. There is no need for anyone to make submissions to correct anything.

We'll get things corrected as soon as we are able. Apologies for the inconvenience.

Lots of lower league teams in Wales and Northern Ireland have managers missing. They show up when i dont use this editor data FM24

Can you please provide a few named, representative examples? It makes it a lot easier to follow the data trail for us to establish the cause of the issue (and onwardly fix it). Just 2-3 would be plenty.

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Daniel Sheehan Swansea Uni manager 28028903

Craig Dale Bridgend Street manager   74003313

Tony Wallis Caldicot town manager 5100378

Daniel Carlisle  PSNI  Manager  2000208334

Thanks for these. I will have a look and see if I can identify the commonality here. I suspect, one way or another, these will all fall into the challenges we have with non-playing staff in the ‘handling FM24 & FM26 together’ ecosystem.

Having had an initial look at the examples, I have a feeling they fall into a couple of ‘categories’ in terms of the cause. Daniel Carlisle & Daniel Sheehan, for example, appear to be have roles with women's teams in FM26. As these teams are in not in FM24, they become free agents. That may not reflect real-life, but in terms of logically being handled by the Data Update, it is doing the expected thing. There's nothing in the data linking them to Swansea University and PSNI, respectively. Perhaps this one needs someone to make a submission to correct his current, real-life role.

Craig Dale & Tony Wallis, likewise, are set to be Free Agents. Again, this may not reflect reality, in which case a submission to correct it should put things right.

Now, in terms of why these personnel are now incorrect - it stems from SI's own database. Even for the FM24 Data Update, the starting point is the latest FM26 database. So if SI have set Daniel Carlisle as the manager of the Larne Women's team, then we take that as the position of fact. Any community submission that is approved will alter that - but there have been no such submissions made. There could be some nuance to the fact that they can only be staff members associated with one club at a time and so, in the case of Daniel Carlisle & Daniel Sheehan, SI have prioritised their roles with Larne Women and Swansea City Women respectively. As for the two free agents, I can't say why they are free agents if they are, in fact, at the clubs you mention in real-life, unless those clubs are not in FM26, in which case SI's decision to make them ‘free agents’ is logical.

Thanks

quite a few will need to be submitted then as they all cant be connected to womens teams. Why do the manager slots remain empty and they dont get any other managers in the place of the empty space as you go further on in the game?  positions dont get filled.

On the first point, if that is the case - then yes. I would really encourage you (or anyone else) to make those submissions. This Data Update has - and always will be - about the community actively providing submissions. So if this is an area of world football you keep in touch with/are familiar with, your contributions would be greatly appreciated to correct any data that is outdated/incorrect.

As for your query around those vacant positions being filled - that's just the way the in-game simulation is going about its business. If they're vacancies, they could theoretically appoint someone. Of course, the teams in question will be low reputation and, probably, in inactive divisions so they are way down the pecking order for AI appointments, I suppose. But our Data Update has no bearing on that, unfortunately.

International teams like england dont recruit managers either. scotland are managerless too throughout the season. Its unplayable at the moment. anyway thanks i will download another time maybe in a month or so. Thanks for your replies.

What do you mean “can't be connected to womens teams?" Are you reporting a bug with our data update submission system or with FM itself?

I tried googling “Craig Dale” and “Daniel Sheehan” but can't find what you're talking about. Can you make a submission with links (unless of course there is a bug in which case please describe it).

I’ll interject - just because I know @leftfoot is referring to a longer list of lower league managers from Wales/NI who are not aligned to their real-life clubs.

I suspect the root-cause is that SI have either dropped some of those clubs from the database for FM26, or these staff members have job-shares and so SI prioritise their jobs at the bigger club.

This is, ultimately, one of those things we have to manage due to the pivot across to the FM26 database as our ‘baseline’. I don’t think it’s a data-processing bug as such - but errant data that needs correcting via submissions.

The other part relates to international managerial vacancies - which I have flagged to you in our staff forum. I am not sure if the fix you pushed for nationalities also contained the fix for that issue. Happy to discuss is separately and get under the skin of the outstanding issues in the next 24 hours, if that would help.

Anybody that's know of the Enzo Molebe not being created in FM24 was already fixed?

If I recall correctly, that was the (fairly) nuanced one where he wasn't in the 24.3 database but was in an earlier FM24 database.

As far as I am aware, we haven't made any changes to the logic so I think he will continue to not be created in the FM24 Data Update. It's still on the to-do list.

We've been focused on tackling more fundamental challenges that have cropped up recently, unfortunately.

A quick update on the Data Update - specifically an update with respect to certain bugs:

1. The issue that was causing all newly-created players to be English has been resolved. This fault existed between 16-01-2025 and 18-01-2025. Both the FM24 and FM26 Data Update should now reflect the correct, primary nationality for all players, on both the free and enhanced versions.
    
2. The issue with all national teams being without managers has been resolved. Likewise, this fault existed between 16-01-2025 and 18-01-2025. National teams should now reflect the manager status correctly on both the free and enhanced versions of the update.

Apologies for the disruption caused by these bugs.

In the process of cross-checking that the above have been resolved, I have noticed that (in FM24 at least), second and third nationalities of newly-created players are not being picked up. I have flagged this internally and we will investigate. I am not sure if this is a new bug, or has existed for some time.
 

We are also looking at the best way to tackle the retirements of players that took place during the last couple of seasons - specifically, those personnel who have, as a result of retirement, been removed by SI from the FM26 database. High-profile examples include Marcelo and Toni Kroos.

Hi,

In regards to active player loans, the wage % is set to 0 on every loan that ive come across. Is there a way for this to be more accurate or be able to submit this when adding a change to the data update? 

This is for FM24. 

Thanks

@Bryan Cheetham  I have some recollection of this being a problem before and being fixed, thanks for reporting i'll look into why it may have reoccured.

No Problem, thanks 🙂 

Hi really strange I'm missing some transfers like woltemade and ekitike at Liverpool I've got the data update so have some new transfers just not ones from the summer I've got rashford at villa and Sancho at Chelsea any ideas y 

Are you talking about FM24 or FM26 it looks like you downloaded both updates?

Can you screenshot your “editor data” folder?

Can you confirm if this is fixed now?

For those following progress (and for everyone, generally) - the issue with second and third nationalities is also now believed to be resolved. It should be available for Enhanced Data Update subscribers as of now. For all others, it should be available with the next daily update.

In addition, all newly-created players are now contained in a separate file named ‘sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - New People.fmf’ and are no longer part of the ‘sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - Contracts.fmf’ file. Therefore, for those after the modularity of choosing not to use the ~20,000 newly-created players, you have that option.

We are actively working to tackle the subset of players who have retired, in real-life, within the last 1-2 years but who have also been removed from the FM26 database. Currently, these players appear as active players in the FM24 Data Update (high-profile examples include Toni Kroos & Marcelo). We hope to tackle this in the coming days.

Additionally, the ‘No Date Changes’ version of the update is now back alive again and available via https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/no-date-changes-data-update. It is now setup to automatically update, as with the main Data Update, so it should not fall out-of-sync again. This is a stripped-down version of the FM24 Data Update that does not apply any promotions/relegations, nor does it offset any player ages or contract lengths. It is typically used by those who want to pair it with ‘future start date’ mods that fast-forward the in-game start date to Summer or Winter 2025. Broadly speaking, it isn't recommended for your typical user.

Finally, work continues to update the playable nations in FM24 and FM26 where leagues have concluded. These will continue to be added to the Data Updates as they are ready.

Hi Everyone, Salvatore Esposito is not on simple loan from Spezia to Sampdoria (italian Serie B), but there is a mandatory to buy clause on his loan (1M+500k bonus in case of Sampdoria promotion), so after 30.06.2026 he will be formerly a Sampdoria player with a contract until 30.06.2031 and a wage of 900k eur per year. Is it possible to have it correctly updated inside database? Or could you pls address me to where I can report this issue?

I think not… I can give you some examples;

John Duran : loan from Al-Nassr to Fenerbahce but the salary/wage seems to be 0 (%0 paid by the loan club)

also there are 2 other examples like 

Orkun Kokcu and Tammy Abraham should be moved to Besiktas as permanent transfer at the end of their loans but seems not in the game.

These are two slightly different scenarios and have slightly different solutions, as a result.

With the loaning club taking on the wages - I will leave @Footygamer to respond as there may be something more complex that needs to be done.

With the ‘loans-into-transfers’ scenario (e.g. Kokcu & Abraham) - the submitted data, at present, doesn't reflect these. In order for those players to move to the loaning club permanently, the ‘Future Transfer’ information needs to also include the ‘Future Club’. I took a quick look and Kokcu & Abraham both have the other details filled out, but not the ‘Future Club’. That is why that permanent transfer isn't guaranteed to take place in-game.

Now, I don't actually think that is due to the community having submitted incomplete data, as the original data shows these were configured to take place. So I suspect something has gone wrong in the import of data to the site. @Footygamer - this may be one that we need to address to ‘put right’ all such future transfers.

Hi, Link isn't working that you have added.

Cheers

Apologies for late reply, I will check this shortly. I can see a couple of other people are reporting its not though.

Apologies - that is a typo on my part. It included the full-stop after the link as part of the clickable link, causing it to direct to a non-existent page.

The correct link is now in the original post and is this one: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/no-date-changes-data-update