Allan Kane
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Hi, and thanks again.   heres a list of editor data files loaded,  Bit long winded but had to get them all in 🙂    Cheers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Footygamer
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@Allan Kane you've clearly unticked our England update and replaced it with a Level 20 English database, you will have to ask for support from the author of the level 20 DB. 

 

Your only other option would be remove them all and then slowly add them again one by one until you see the error, that way you'll know what file caused it.

M.C
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By Allan Kane 05 January 2026 - 21:54 PM UTC 

Yeh ,  I understand .   its the one I downloaded on here  FM24 English Lower Leagues Database - Football Manager Databases - Editor Data Files - FM24 - Football Manager 2024

 

Understood. Just to be clear - whilst it is available to download on this site, it isn’t our official release hence we are suggesting to talk to the creator about it.

Allan Kane
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Yes I get that,  is DanFMDatabases,  He's not online that often so I thought I'd check out on here,   No worries.

thehet
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By M.C 05 January 2026 - 09:11 AM UTC 

I can't answer about the future ability to add things like player position; but regarding your experience with Enzo Molebe and that concept: the current submission system has been designed to account for and enable exactly the scenario you describe: that is, to create a new player and have that created player only be added to the FM24 Data Update. As such, you should really have no need to create your own file to go alongside.

 

This is achieved by enabling users to link the newly-created player to an existing FM UID. When you create a player who exists in FM26 but not in FM24 and specify the UID of that player, the system on the website will recognise them as being in FM26 but not in FM24. As part of the Data Update creation process it will, therefore, not create them for the FM26 Data Update but it will create them for the FM24 Data Update. The same logic allows for those rare occasions where someone is in FM24 but not in FM26. Similarly, if no ID is specified it creates the player in both updates.

 

That is the basic theory/principle behind it. I haven't had a chance to look at the specific example you've cited, but a lot of work was put in to handle supporting both FM24 and FM26 to keep receiving updates of this nature and the system has been catering for that for a while now.

 

However, where an ID exists in FM24 but not in FM26 (e.g. Jota, Baldock), the current FM24 enhanced data update has, for some reason, reverted to including them having previously been removed and now they are unable to be edited.

Jota is a coach on £140k p/w at Liverpool!

Footygamer
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@Allan Kane there's no need to message Dan the level 20 database works, i've just downloaded it and tested it as shown below.

 

One of your other files is interfering, the only way for you to figure out which one is to turn them all off and turn them on one by one.

 

Sorry that that is a chore but that's more down to the tools that SI provide.

 

However you can't just provide a screenshot of a hundred files and ask us to guess.

 

You can test that it's working yourself by choosing just that one file.

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By thehet 05 January 2026 - 22:39 PM UTC 

However, where an ID exists in FM24 but not in FM26 (e.g. Jota, Baldock), the current FM24 enhanced data update has, for some reason, reverted to including them having previously been removed and now they are unable to be edited.

Jota is a coach on £140k p/w at Liverpool!

 

Thanks for the report this is on my todo list but I haven't gotten to it yet, i'll try and get to it today.

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By Footygamer 05 January 2026 - 22:41 PM UTC 

@Allan Kane there's no need to message Dan the level 20 database works, i've just downloaded it and tested it as shown below.

 

One of your other files is interfering, the only way for you to figure out which one is to turn them all off and turn them on one by one.

 

Sorry that that is a chore but that's more down to the tools that SI provide.

 

However you can't just provide a screenshot of a hundred files and ask us to guess.

 

You can test that it's working yourself by choosing just that one file.

 

Thanks ,  good to know although there was no need for the sarchasm,  I was asked to post the list of editor data files loaded.   There's too many mods added so I'll start a new install and load a different database , one that hopefully works with Daves Realism mod  ( the likely culprit )    Cheers

M.C
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By Allan Kane 05 January 2026 - 22:56 PM UTC 

Thanks ,  good to know although there was no need for the sarchasm,  I was asked to post the list of editor data files loaded.   There's too many mods added so I'll start a new install and load a different database , one that hopefully works with Daves Realism mod  ( the likely culprit )    Cheers

 

Speculatively, I would try to disable the ‘Club Data Fix’ files from DaveIncid's pack, as well as the ‘Geographics & Languages' file. These feel like the ones that might be having an affect on a regionalised league down in the depths of the English pyramid system. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with DaveIncid's pack as I don't use it, hence my advice is fairly speculative - I had a quick look online to see what each file contains to make this suggestion.

 

Of course, whether you want to disable certain parts of the DaveIncid pack, or you prefer not to use the English Lower League database, will be a choice that is down to you.

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By M.C 06 January 2026 - 09:59 AM UTC 

Speculatively, I would try to disable the ‘Club Data Fix’ files from DaveIncid's pack, as well as the ‘Geographics & Languages' file. These feel like the ones that might be having an affect on a regionalised league down in the depths of the English pyramid system. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with DaveIncid's pack as I don't use it, hence my advice is fairly speculative - I had a quick look online to see what each file contains to make this suggestion.

 

Of course, whether you want to disable certain parts of the DaveIncid pack, or you prefer not to use the English Lower League database, will be a choice that is down to you.

Hi.  I actually got to the bottom of it.   It was the Welsh lower league database add on at the bottom that was causing it.  Shropshire is right on the border with Wales therefor it was clashing with the England database somehow.  I removed the Weles lvl 9 one and loaded another Wales one that I found and it now works perfectly 😁.    Thanks for your input though I appreciate it 👍🏻

oopsupsideyourhead
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By Footygamer 05 January 2026 - 01:41 AM UTC 

Someone using this tool fucked up somehow, i'm working on try and fix it and prevent it happening in future: https://sortitoutsi.net/content/75869/helping-to-fix-duplicate-players 

Thanks for this, very random I suddenly had Saka playing against me for Liverpool after being signed from that Finnish team for £5m in the January, confused me a bit! Any idea if it's something fixable? FM24 in case that makes a difference

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By oopsupsideyourhead 06 January 2026 - 14:42 PM UTC 

Thanks for this, very random I suddenly had Saka playing against me for Liverpool after being signed from that Finnish team for £5m in the January, confused me a bit! Any idea if it's something fixable? FM24 in case that makes a difference

 

I have a feeling @Footygamer took steps to fix the Bukayo Saka one, specifically. I downloaded the latest version of the FM24 Data Update earlier today and Saka was back at Arsenal, as expected.

Footygamer
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Yes the Saka issue was fixed very quickly.

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By Footygamer 05 January 2026 - 22:41 PM UTC 

Thanks for the report this is on my todo list but I haven't gotten to it yet, i'll try and get to it today.

 

Any chance this is a quick fix? (removing deceased players, at least the two mentioned Jota & Baldock)

 

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By thehet 09 January 2026 - 02:29 AM UTC 

Any chance this is a quick fix? (removing deceased players, at least the two mentioned Jota & Baldock)

 

As Footygamer is on holiday, now, I don't think any of the rest of the staff can do this directly through the site data as such.

 

However, I'll make a manual patch (via an extra FMF file) and add it to the FM24 Data Update as a stop-gap measure. I'll get it sorted in the next hour or two, so it should be available for all no later than the next daily update.

M.C
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@thehet (and anyone else following) - I have now created a new ‘Deceased Persons' file and integrated it into the FM24 Data Update. It sets a total of 106 people who have been reported as passing away across January 2024 to-date to the ‘Retired’ status in-game.

 

I have tested on a new game alongside all other FM24 Data Update files and it is working as expected.

thehet
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Thank you Sir!!

christiann1910
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Seria A registration is bugged, im in my second season with Como and i still cant register non Eu players even though i have no one in my club that is non eu

M.C
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Just a quick note to say: I'm aware we've fallen a few days behind with moderating Data Update submissions. I am working to clear the backlog as soon as possible.

 

I appreciate everyone's patience. Hopefully regular service will be resumed by the end of today and I'll do my best not to allow a backlog to develop as it has in the last few days. Thanks to everyone that continues to contribute!

Bryan Cheetham
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Could somebody check this please as he's showing as a coach for the 1st team on the FM24 update. Details are Jorge Merino - 67103359

 

Thanks

LondonStokie
2 years ago
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Hello,

 

New here but had a question, not sure if this is the right place though, so apologies if not.

 

I downloaded the FM24 update and installed it. All good everything works. Only question i had is, as part of that update has the match engine changed at all?

 

Aware there's a few knocking about compared to the vanila one. It kinda feels different a bit but maybe that's because i just haven't played it in a while.

M.C
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By LondonStokie 13 January 2026 - 20:03 PM UTC 

Hello,

 

New here but had a question, not sure if this is the right place though, so apologies if not.

 

I downloaded the FM24 update and installed it. All good everything works. Only question i had is, as part of that update has the match engine changed at all?

 

Aware there's a few knocking about compared to the vanila one. It kinda feels different a bit but maybe that's because i just haven't played it in a while.

 

The SortItOutSI Data Update, definitively, does not include any changes to the match engine. It contains updated data pertaining to players, non-playing staff, league structures and so on.

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Andrew Ryan
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Hi Everyone HAPPY NEW YEAR. Could anyone please tell me. In the English championship have Sheffield Wednesday been deducted 30 points. Because in the latest update they have. I was sure it was only 18. Thanks in advance

M.C
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By Andrew Ryan 15 January 2026 - 13:14 PM UTC 

Hi Everyone HAPPY NEW YEAR. Could anyone please tell me. In the English championship have Sheffield Wednesday been deducted 30 points. Because in the latest update they have. I was sure it was only 18. Thanks in advance

 

In real-life, Sheffield Wednesday have been deducted a total of 18 points.

 

In terms of the Data Update files, I know that in the FM24 Data Update, we recently configured the points deduction and it is correctly working as an 18-point deduction. I will check what the FM26 Data Update files are doing - I haven't personally worked on those but, presumably, somewhere there has been a duplication of 12 of the points, resulting in that extra deduction.

Andrew Ryan
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Thank you hope it was ok to inform you Andy

Spidersox (TV)
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Hi guys,

Does this Database update change the CA and PA of any of the players, and If so how drastically? Because I've started a save and I've just noticed that Ayyoub Bouaddi only has a potential of 103 and a CA of 39 which seems far too low considering he's meant to be one of the best wonderkids around. I've noticed this with a few other players to like Gilberto Mora and Jeremy Monga. Either this is my fault and I don't know what I've done, or this database is way too comfortable messing with PAs and CAs.

M.C
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By Spidersox (TV) 15 January 2026 - 23:21 PM UTC 

Hi guys,

Does this Database update change the CA and PA of any of the players, and If so how drastically? Because I've started a save and I've just noticed that Ayyoub Bouaddi only has a potential of 103 and a CA of 39 which seems far too low considering he's meant to be one of the best wonderkids around. I've noticed this with a few other players to like Gilberto Mora and Jeremy Monga. Either this is my fault and I don't know what I've done, or this database is way too comfortable messing with PAs and CAs.

 

Just a very brief reply - but so not to leave you hanging: I actually think it is neither.

 

The Data Update provides adjusted CA/PA and it is mainly driven by community submissions. Broadly speaking, they should be in-line with general consensus of abilities.

 

I have a feeling we have a data processing issue/bug that is causing null values to be set for some players. This would explain why, when looking up a player like Bouaddi on the site, their ‘Data Update Data’ shows the CA/PA as blank values.

 

My instinct is that this was introduced as part of a recent re-process, that took place 7-10 days ago (but that’s speculative). I also believe it is only affecting players in the database where there have been zero approved end-user CA/PA submissions. Again, that's speculative.

 

As an aside, I have just rejected the CA/PA submissions you have made. Just a temporary measure as I want to use Ayyoub Bouaddi as the representative case and keeping his data unchanged, for now, will help us investigate the data flow properly. I will circle back to your submissions and review them objectively once we tackle this issue.

 

The Site Admin is shortly back from holiday - I will raise with him ASAP and we’ll ensure things get corrected.

Spidersox (TV)
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By M.C 16 January 2026 - 00:23 AM UTC 

Just a very brief reply - but so not to leave you hanging: I actually think it is neither.

 

The Data Update provides adjusted CA/PA and it is mainly driven by community submissions. Broadly speaking, they should be in-line with general consensus of abilities.

 

I have a feeling we have a data processing issue/bug that is causing null values to be set for some players. This would explain why, when looking up a player like Bouaddi on the site, their ‘Data Update Data’ shows the CA/PA as blank values.

 

My instinct is that this was introduced as part of a recent re-process, that took place 7-10 days ago (but that’s speculative). I also believe it is only affecting players in the database where there have been zero approved end-user CA/PA submissions. Again, that's speculative.

 

As an aside, I have just rejected the CA/PA submissions you have made. Just a temporary measure as I want to use Ayyoub Bouaddi as the representative case and keeping his data unchanged, for now, will help us investigate the data flow properly. I will circle back to your submissions and review them objectively once we tackle this issue.

 

The Site Admin is shortly back from holiday - I will raise with him ASAP and we’ll ensure things get corrected.

Thanks man, guess I'll just sit and anxiously check my phone every five minutes like the addict I definitely am not until then lol.

 

I've submitted some changes for other players I noticed were affected that aren't Ayyoub, incase you wanted to apply them.

 

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