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On the night Lionel Messi reminded us that uncommon grace can still occasionally walk easily alongside the highest achievement, Luis Suarez was still locked away from the kind of uncomplicated acclaim that once again bathed football’s fabulous Little Big Man in Zurich.




When Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger, who once plundered so brilliantly the best of his native France, recently signed a clutch of English-born players, including Jack Wilshere and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, he reminded you somewhat of the Dutch boy with his finger in the dam.


From today's article.
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Suarez is just reaffirming the views that everyone believes in regards to his on-field persona. Furthermore, the way that his actions were used to deny a lower league side that were good for the win a potentially lucrative replay at Anfield also contributed.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 09 January 2013 - 20:26 PM
Suarez is just reaffirming the views that everyone believes in regards to his on-field persona. Furthermore, the way that his actions were used to deny a lower league side that were good for the win a potentially lucrative replay at Anfield also contributed.


Shut up
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Eloquent as always.
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Yeah because that's what happened. The ball reflected, he weighed up the trajectory, he swung his arm around and as he did it all was thinking was "fucking hate Mansfield the part time scrubs".
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That writing is awful.

Similar prose to Kevin McCarra and he got made redundant he was getting so bad.
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By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 09 January 2013 - 21:46 PM
Yeah because that's what happened. The ball reflected, he weighed up the trajectory, he swung his arm around and as he did it all was thinking was "fucking hate Mansfield the part time scrubs".


That satire is beneath you, come on, he clearly didn't think about how he didn't like Mansfield, but he did deliberately handball to gain an advantage. It's not the first time he's tried to score with his hand, or block a shot with his hand deliberately, and it certainly won't be the last. I'm just explaining that when you paint yourself with actions in the public eye as a pathetic pantomime villain and you break the rules, actively relishing and laughing at the fact that you've avoided punishment, you will be deemed with further contempt.

Plus, everyone in the UK loves an underdog story, so you can only imagine how much that fuels the protest too.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 09 January 2013 - 22:00 PM
That satire is beneath you, come on, he clearly didn't think about how he didn't like Mansfield, but he did deliberately handball to gain an advantage. It's not the first time he's tried to score with his hand, or block a shot with his hand deliberately, and it certainly won't be the last. I'm just explaining that when you paint yourself with actions in the public eye as a pathetic pantomime villain and you break the rules, actively relishing and laughing at the fact that you've avoided punishment, you will be deemed with further contempt.

Plus, everyone in the UK loves an underdog story, so you can only imagine how much that fuels the protest too.

No, I know what you're trying to say, I was making fun of the way you framed it. I know what the general public think of Suarez. i know what I think of Suarez after watching the World Cup. He's not exactly a sportsman but... I mean I support the team which has Gus Poyet as manager. It's like that whole racism thing, right? What he did was wrong and it was right for people to let him know "hey, that's not ok". The reason I bring up Gus is that he was asked about the incident some time ago, presumably since he's from Uruguay, and he basically said that South America is very different to the UK and you can basically get away with saying different types of things which Suarez forgot about for a moment which seems sensible. People got mad at him for "defending" Suarez but that's kind of the whole point.

If you're going to talk about the coverage of this then to be honest talking about this issue is completely fucking irrelevant. A footballer scored a goal because the ball may or may not have hit his hand on purpose. You can't even say they denied Mansfield a reply. They were 1-0 up at the time, if they were at 1-0 Mansfield might not have been so attacking. Liverpool might have tried a bit harder and scored a goal anyway. It's a complete non story.

But it just goes to show what a collosal bitch fest football has become and it's one of the reasons why I'm glad I support a relatively small club. Every single time any little thing happens it turns into an us versus them depending on what team you support. Man Utd and Liverpool being the worst for this. Well, Celtic and Rangers but who gives a fuck about Rangers anymore.
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Amusingly, the most controversial incident that happened in that cup tie was Allen stopping the ball across the goal-line with his arm early in the first half, which could have warranted a red card and a penalty and turned the tie really on its head.
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PA - Poyet went quite a bit further than that, that's why people got annoyed at him.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 09 January 2013 - 22:46 PM
PA - Poyet went quite a bit further than that, that's why people got annoyed at him.

Eh.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15789703
"You cannot accuse people without a proper investigation, especially when it's a foreigner who is coming from a different place where we treat people of colour in a different way.

"So it was very easy to accuse someone. Luis Suarez is 100% not a racist.

"Me, I'm not racist. I've lived with people of different colours in different countries and I adapted to every single situation. Suarez needs to adapt to England, and England needs to adapt to the players that come here.

"England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If we have that understanding, easy."

I mean, he certainly worded it badly but you can clearly see what he was trying to say.
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How can you explain every other foreigner in the Premier League that hasn't racially abused anyone? Suarez was hardly just off the plane either, he had been in the country since the last January.
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Also
"I believe Luis Suárez, it's simple," Poyet said. "I played football for seven years in Spain and was called everything because I was from South America, and I never went out crying like a baby, like Patrice Evra, saying that someone had said something to me."

"The ban is incredible, shocking, disproportionate. I back Luis to death. Things have happened before with Evra. He is not a saint. He is a controversial player.

"I don't know in which world we are going to live from now on. People will accuse each other of anything. Suárez just arrived [in the Premier League] and there are things that he has to learn when you are in another country because they might be normal in your country but perhaps they are not considered that way in other parts of the world."
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I'm not defending anyone. The point Gus was making is that making a racist comment doesn't make you a racist which I'd agree with.

But that wasn't really my point.
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By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 10:14 AM
I'm not defending anyone. The point Gus was making is that making a racist comment doesn't make you a racist which I'd agree with.

But that wasn't really my point.

Couldn't agree more.

I'm sure you could say that 95% of people on this forum have said something that would be considered racist at one point or another. I bet the majority would voice that they aren't racist, and would defend themselves accordingly.
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Verse is a racist.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 09 January 2013 - 22:31 PM
Amusingly, the most controversial incident that happened in that cup tie was Allen stopping the ball across the goal-line with his arm early in the first half, which could have warranted a red card and a penalty and turned the tie really on its head.

Your so blinded by your hatred for Liverpool it's untrue, your talking about the incident when the ball hit his arm which was tight up against his side?
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 15:09 PM
Verse is a racist.

I give as good as I get, having a wog background and all.
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By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 09 January 2013 - 23:14 PM
I'm not defending anyone. The point Gus was making is that making a racist comment doesn't make you a racist which I'd agree with.

But that wasn't really my point.

Fair enough, I was just saying that the reason people got annoyed at him getting involved was because he also implied Evra was making it up.
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Good win for Bolton away to Sunderland in the replay. Walters has scored two in extra time for Stoke v Palace, he'll feel a bit better about the Chelsea game now. Blackpool-Fulham is in ET at 1-1, could go to penalties.

West Brom lost again too, home to QPR. This is probably the first proper test in Steve Clarke's managerial career, see if he can turn it around.
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Rooney scores to put United 1-0 inside 9 minutes.
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Perfect start.
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Very disappointing by Anderson so far. Same old news, he gets injured and drastically loses his form.
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Looked pretty comfortable so far, that's encouraging.
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He played a superb pass to Hernandez for the goal.
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I've only been watching for about 15 mins but Valencia looks like he's remembered how to play football.
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BET IN PLAY NAAA'WH, IT'S ALL ABAAAT THE IN PLAY!
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Smalling has been quite good in the air tonight.
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I've been revising all evening so had to listen to the Arsenal game on 5 Live, but it sounded like we dominated the second half and that Jack Wilshere was superb. Delighted to be through and I really hope we give the FA Cup a good go this year.

Also, how about this for a block;

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