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Petit want's Vieira and reckons Ljungberg will do crap, which basically says to me Vieira is his mate and he doesn't like Freddie.

I want Howe or Gerrard personally.
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Petit want's Vieira and reckons Ljungberg will do crap, which basically says to me Vieira is his mate and he doesn't like Freddie.

I want Howe or Gerrard personally.


I am surprised at how little Howe has been mentioned. Good call imo.
VP.
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I am surprised at how little Howe has been mentioned. Good call imo.


Lampard aside, when do we ever really hear of any young English manager getting the rewards for doing brilliantly with a smaller club.

Wierd really as our (English) young players can be largely overrated but our managers get very little credit whatsoever.
Grimnir
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Did VAR just cost Silva his job?
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It does seem to be a pretty intense sacking season, with Spurs, Arsenal and Watford (for a second time) all pulling the trigger in quick succession, Everton's manager under intense scrutiny and West Ham having probably been ready to follow had Pellegrini not got victory at Chelsea with a 33-year-old PL debutant formerly of MK Dons and Millwall in goal.

Maybe its just the time of year. Usually see a few dismissals in late autumn/early winter but the last few seasons haven't quite been so intense as this one felt.
Bruce is at the club he was made for. Lower Premier League is his level

Lower PL is indeed our level (sadly, for someone who can remember top 5 finishes when younger) but poor seasons in the PL with Hull and Sunderland, and a messy time at Villa did make me a bit twitchy.

The cynic in me could suggest some of these results are one we might've had with Benitez. But equally, we have responded very well to an atrocious display at Leicester. 3 wins against teams we've had an iffy record against along with a double comeback against Man City, off-colour MCFC finishing or otherwise.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47195701

Hardly shocking after their 5-2 derby defeat!

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Huh... quite something Man United got beaten by West Ham, Bournemouth and Newcastle, then picked up back-to-back wins over both Spurs and Man City.
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Huh... quite something Man United got beaten by West Ham, Bournemouth and Newcastle, then picked up back-to-back wins over both Spurs and Man City.

Ole knows how to set up to defend, it's why he only managed a draw against an Emery team who was similarly cowardly.
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Ole knows how to set up to defend, it's why he only managed a draw against an Emery team who was similarly cowardly.

Clearly. Their midfield was oddly passive when they played at St. James' Park, which is a game where I think they would've been expected to dominate the midfield space.
bmg033
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I wonder if it's possible for the Mourinho third season meltdown and sacking to happen in the first season? What a shame that would be
VP.
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What amazes me this season is that we are easily the stand out side from the usual top 6 for being absolutely shocking so far, yet we're only 2pts behind Man Utd and 4 behind Tottenham.
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What amazes me this season is that we are easily the stand out side from the usual top 6 for being absolutely shocking so far, yet we're only 2pts behind Man Utd and 4 behind Tottenham.

As a United fan, I can safely say we run you guys close for that honour. United's wins against the top teams makes it look better than it has been, absolutely diabolical against the 'lesser' teams; lost to four of the bottom nine (+ Newcastle when they were down there), drawing with four of the other five!
Eric Portapotty
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As a United fan, I can safely say we run you guys close for that honour. United's wins against the top teams makes it look better than it has been, absolutely diabolical against the 'lesser' teams; lost to four of the bottom nine (+ Newcastle when they were down there), drawing with four of the other five!

At least you lot had the highs of beating the top sides, we've had fuck all to be positive about so far
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Huh... quite something Man United got beaten by West Ham, Bournemouth and Newcastle, then picked up back-to-back wins over both Spurs and Man City.

And then lose to bottom side Watford.
Obtuse
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And then lose to bottom side Watford.


Standard. We are set up to counter (not defend as some utter plank suggested) and if they give us the ball then we can't break people down due to a lack of both pace and decisive passing
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West Ham let Moyes go to "move to the next level" under Pellegrini, and have now sacked Pellegrini to potentially bring back Moyes... so that's gone well.

I know, meanwhile, its almost a cliché at this point to complain VAR is being used to take offside checks to ludicrous levels, but Christ alive this round of fixtures has taken the piss.
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Handball rule has to change. Not a West Ham fan in the slightest but that was ridiculous. Letter of the law, may be so, but ridiculous. Blades fans can feel some sort of karma I suppose after the whole Tevez affair.
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Handball rule has to change. Not a West Ham fan in the slightest but that was ridiculous. Letter of the law, may be so, but ridiculous. Blades fans can feel some sort of karma I suppose after the whole Tevez affair.

Saw this tweet earlier and pretty much sums up VAR with handball:




They really do just interpret the rule for however they feel on the day. Or to help Liverpool of course.
Dan
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This could get messy for Villa, well, maybe messier! 4-0 down at ht
Grimnir
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Could today signal the end for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth? (again...)
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If Liverpool fail to win the league from this position, they're never going to win it. But I suspect given all the rest of them below are so dysfunctional that Liverpool can afford to let 2/3 games slip and nobody would emerge to make life more uncomfortable for them.
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Welcome to United, Odion!

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/0Mqck91iLdohK1Fw78AllA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/homerun/kevindarling-yahoo.tumblr.com/7ba76547ee01e722d76c7af3bf7900d6
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I can see this being tied up at the CAS for ages.

I can also see a similar attempt to kick PSG out the Champions League, given I seem to recall similarly serious allegations were made by Football Leaks about their financial conduct. Whether it is acted on is another matter.
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Welcome to United, Odion!

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/0Mqck91iLdohK1Fw78AllA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/homerun/kevindarling-yahoo.tumblr.com/7ba76547ee01e722d76c7af3bf7900d6

Quite something the scoreline in this photo from 2015 was the same score of last Saturday's result. A result I'm still perplexed happened, even if I did think Liverpool's first PL defeat would come to a team outside the usual top 6.
Eric Portapotty
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Well literally everything has gone to shit eh
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Well literally everything has gone to shit eh


Yup. Imagine how cursed Liverpool would feel if, to top up all the slip-ups and misfortunes and so-close-and-yet-so-far situations of recent years, it were announced that there will be no Premier League winner this season. Yikes! With the lead they have it would be pretty unfair IMO.

The relegation battle zone, on the other hand... no team deserves to go down based on the table at this very stage of the season. And there are three teams courting the 18th spot that have the same exact number of points, but Bournemouth has the worst goal difference (by a single goal compared to Watford). Once again, yikes!!
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