kingrobbo
14 years ago
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Starting a new thread on this as the old one goes back 4+ years.

Just to be clear this is to cover players/staff only and WHO ARE ALREADY IN THE DB.

Our update does not add anyone who is missing from the DB to do this you need to ADD them via the Pre game editor or use the official IGE to edit an existing person to suite your needs.

Or use a file/mod which covers missing players/staff/wonderkids etc NB be careful doing this as sometimes you can get conflicts/issues/clashes with our file/s as there are things that are duplicated etc.
or do it yourself in the editor.
Also if you find missing players/staff who should be in the DB(not new 14 year old kids a club has just signed)you need to update SI on their forums that cover data issues for various leagues/nations.

When you find a missing transfer/loan etc submit the change to the update team so it can be added in due course along with a credible link to confirm your submission.
Rumours of a pending transfer is not a source and it causes a delay in the Mods being able to approve genuine submissions as they have to go through all of them, sometimes these run into the 1000s waiting approval).
This is link to check player/staff changes= submit your changes IF it isnt already pending/done

https://sortitoutsi.net/search/database

NB The things our live update covers-

Players
Transfer to a Team
Set Transfer in Future
Future Transfer Fee
Change Contract Date
Change Contract Wage
(This is Optional) The game will set a sensible wage if not set. Must be numeric characters only. E.g. for £60k put in 60000
Loan To Team
Loan Expires
Loan Can Be Recalled
Loan Future Fee
Loan Wage Percentage
Remove Loan
Make Captain
Make a Free Agent
Retire

Staff
Transfer to Team
Remove From Team Job
Change Team Contract Date
Change Team Contract Wage
Change Team Role
Transfer to Nation
Remove From National Job
Change Nation Contract Date
Change Nation Contract Wage
Change Nation Role
Retire from Football
Transfer to Team
Remove From Team Job
Change Team Contract Date
Change Team Contract Wage
Change Team Role
Transfer to Nation
Remove From National Job
Change Nation Contract Date
Change Nation Contract Wage
Change Nation Role
Retire from Football


Also take a read of this before posting issues as many are caused BY NOT REMOVING OLDER VERSIONS OF THE LIVE UPDATE.


https://sortitoutsi.net/forums/topic/49125/please-read-before-posting
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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NB it is not an error when a change hasn't yet been added to our live update if you come across a missing transfer/loan retirement etc submit the required information here(you can do this too for any details that need updating such as new contracts etc) Your text to link here...

When you submit a change if it has already been done then dont waste your time in duplicating it, and if it is awaiting moderation then once again there is no point in duplicating a submission unless the original submission is not correct.
eg Christian Pito- click on the edit option you will see it is awaiting approval

https://i.gyazo.com/7b40a549c81bf98ffbb1620fc48e4637.png

https://i.gyazo.com/a775c1bc7cc61f0041cd0aea2ae90ac6.png

a quick look at the comments and change history will tell you what has been approved/not approved previously.

NB make sure that in the search filter you are selecting the correct person type there is a drop down menu so you can change from player/staff

https://i.gyazo.com/6957ab0d8c7affb270594f5679d12e17.png

el_dindondero
11 years ago
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Chiedo scusa perchè scrivo in italiano ma Andrea Pirlo come manager della Juventus ?
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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The opening post explains what can be done
That can't
LBOW6
9 years ago
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The opening post explains what can be done
That can't


Can anyone find Lee Camp in the database? He’s recently moved to Coventry and I can’t find him in FM21
kingrobbo
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CDarling
6 years ago
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@kingrobbo, please can you make the following changes, you are the only staff member who has I have seen who has been able to change a staff member to their correct job role. All attempts by other staff members have seen them set as First team coach rather than their actual job role.

Sammy Lee to WBA Assistant Manager
Sam Allardyce to WBA Manager
Lee Johnson to Sunderland Manager
Steve Cotterill to Shrewsbury Manager
Glyn Chamberlain to Blackburn as a scout

Although Edin Terzic to Dortmund Interim manager now has been changed back to assistant manager

Many thanks
kfnielsen
17 years ago
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Sam Allardyce is set as coach at West Brom not as Manager
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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Sam Allardyce is se
t as coach at West Brom not as Manager


So you have submitted the change?
CDarling
6 years ago
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So you have submitted the change?


Numerous people have submitted this change, and also submissions for other staff changes, although most of them seem to have been inputted by site staff members as first team coach's.

You are the only staff member who I have seen who has been able to change a staff member to their correct job role. All attempts by other staff members have seen them set as first team coach rather than their actual job role.

The below are those which I am aware of, although I am sure that there are others too

Sammy Lee to WBA Assistant Manager
Sam Allardyce to WBA Manager
Lee Johnson to Sunderland Manager
Steve Cotterill to Shrewsbury Manager
Glyn Chamberlain to Blackburn as a scout

Although Edin Terzic to Dortmund Interim manager now has been changed to assistant manager
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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I don't deal with the live update I only submit the odd change when it is very busy
I haven't done anything that the staff dealing with it couldn't do

So if a correct change hasn't been approved users need to ask the staff member who didn't approve it
CDarling
6 years ago
37 minutes ago
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I don't deal with the live update I only submit the odd change when it is very busy
I haven't done anything that the staff dealing with it couldn't do


@barcaseb has stated "I don't know why this happens. I have tried to approve these changes, and I hope it will fix the problem with the wrong job roles".... but the changes he submitted... as well as the changes that others have submitted, have been inputted as first team coach.

I am not trying to single out Barceseb... or any other staff member, but several of them have tried to make these changes and they have not been able to do so.

I have recently seen that you have completed a staff change (Xisco to Watford), so you are obviously doing something differently (and correctly) than the other staff members

Can you advise them or speak to @Footygamer about this?

Please
kingrobbo
14 years ago
1 hour ago
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@barcaseb has stated "I don't know why this happens. I have tried to approve these changes, and I hope it will fix the problem with the wrong job roles".... but the changes he submitted... as well as the changes that others have submitted, have been inputted as first team coach.

I am not trying to single out Barceseb... or any other staff member, but several of them have tried to make these changes and they have not been able to do so.

I have recently seen that you have completed a staff change (Xisco to Watford), so you are obviously doing something differently (and correctly) than the other staff members

Can you advise them or speak to @Footygamer about this?

Please


I will take a look later when a get a chance not at home now as it xmas eve here and I am busy😉
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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I have looked at change made to big sam by data team and it looks fine here he was set as manager I have resubmitted it but if he still shows not as manager at WBA in next update then there is a bug so just report it here

merry xmas to everyone
barcaseb
11 years ago
4 months ago
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I have looked at change made to big sam by data team and it looks fine here he was set as manager I have resubmitted it but if he still shows not as manager at WBA in next update then there is a bug so just report it here

merry xmas to everyone


I think there is a bug in the data update file, as many staff members have wrong roles. I don’t know why, because here on this website, it says they have the right roles, but when I open the FM Editor or FM, and see the changes, I can see many staff members with wrong roles, e.g. Allardyce, Terzic, Cotterill.

I’m not in charge of the data update, but I think it need to be fixed, as it is very annoying. It is like the game is choosing random roles to some staff members. I don’t know if it is the game itself or the data update 😊
kingrobbo
14 years ago
1 hour ago
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I think there is a bug in the data update file, as many staff members have wrong roles. I don’t know why, because here on this website, it says they have the right roles, but when I open the FM Editor or FM, and see the changes, I can see many staff members with wrong roles, e.g. Allardyce, Terzic, Cotterill.

I’m not in charge of the data update, but I think it need to be fixed, as it is very annoying. It is like the game is choosing random roles to some staff members. I don’t know if it is the game itself or the data update 😊


yes mate I just checked and was about to post the same thing I am tagging @Footygamer so he is aware

as you say the changes are showing correctly here on site

but the checks I made on staff showing updated here correctly( eg sam allardyce/sammy lee) are showing as coaches in the official FM Editor/game rather than a manager/ass man as they are here, so something is wrong

Thanks for the update and to those that raised the issue

IIRC there were no issue before the game was patched to the most recent update perhaps that's where the issue is?
wilkermendes
12 years ago
14 hours ago
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Good afternoon
I noticed an error in your update file. When I create a game (and I also checked it by opening the file by the editor) it appears that Brazil's coach is Eduardo Barroca and Tite would be an assistant. But in truth, Barroca is only coach of Botafogo.
tombazzlez
8 years ago
4 months ago
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Is it just me being unable to find Tiago Pinto (Current Technical Director at Roma, DOF at Benfica between '12-20)
Mermans
10 years ago
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Peter Maes and Hein Vanhaezebrouck are not just new trainers at Sint truiden and AA Gent but they are the new first team managers. On the site the update looks OK but not in the actual update.
rafpietrzyk
12 years ago
1 week ago
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Peter Maes and Hein Vanhaezebrouck are not just new trainers at Sint truiden and AA Gent but they are the new first team managers. On the site the update looks OK but not in the actual update.


The same situation in Wisla Krakow! Hyballa is a first team manager no trainer. The same in Ross Country John Hughes is new manager no Trainer the same problem in Büyükşehir Belediye Erzurumspor Mesut Bakkal is a new manager no trainer is too many wrong updates! the person who approved this changes he need to be release because he dont know what he do.
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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The same situation in Wisla Krakow! Hyballa is a first team manager no trainer. The same in Ross Country John Hughes is new manager no Trainer the same problem in Büyükşehir Belediye Erzurumspor Mesut Bakkal is a new manager no trainer is too many wrong updates! the person who approved this changes he need to be release because he dont know what he do.


I suggest you READ this thread again and you will see staff are aware there seems to be a bug , drop the petulant attitude
rafpietrzyk
12 years ago
1 week ago
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I suggest you READ this thread again and you will see staff are aware there seems to be a bug , drop the petulant attitude


Yes but they put manager fist team need to be change manager first team only in this file and is ok.
kingrobbo
14 years ago
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Yes but they put manager fist team need to be change manager first team only in this file and is ok.


I have no idea what you are saying here

so for the last time what dont you understand? they are setting the change as manager/etc correctly(I have tried it too, check out my posts above, and on site the changes are correct ) but changes to a coach in game, therefore there is a bug somewhere the site admin has been made aware, so no more of the attitude towards the data update staff or you will receive a warning in fact there was no need to post at all if you had read the thread you would see staff are aware of the issue
djl4485
6 years ago
2 months ago
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Latest update has Paul Hurst and Chris Doig set to being coaches at Grimsby Town, whereas they are manager and assistant manager respectably in real life.
kingrobbo
14 years ago
1 hour ago
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Latest update has Paul Hurst and Chris Doig set to being coaches at Grimsby Town, whereas they are manager and assistant manager respectably in real life.


can you not see the post directly above yours?
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
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I think this is because the managers are being transferred to the new club before the old manager is released. I'm still trying to look into it.
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
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I've just released a new version which should hopefully fix it.
kingrobbo
14 years ago
1 hour ago
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I've just released a new version which should hopefully fix it.


Thanks for the update😉
kingrobbo
14 years ago
1 hour ago
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I think this is because the managers are being transferred to the new club before the old manager is released. I'm still trying to look into it.


just checked and now big sam is set as being the chairman with the latest live update, maybe because your change wont kick in until tomorrow? but he was showing as coach before -

image shows checking our data update file in the official pre game editor-

https://i.gyazo.com/3a2cdc1ea70e70e15ac752cbd5e24244.png
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
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I've just made some more changes and the latest change should fix Sam Allardyce.

It seems like some of the options we have such as "Manager (First Team Only)" aren't legitimate even though they've come from the XML.

I need to find a way of finding only the IDs that are legitimate.

Is anyone aware of how to get the list of IDs from King Robbos screenshot?

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