Nickaberdeen
2 years ago
2 years ago
3

Hi Everyone,

 

this is my first ever post on this site (so i am hoping this is the right area for this, i apologise if its not), i recently decided i want to get back into FM after a long time without it. Long story short (for the sake of the length of the post) i am trying to track down old versions (with varying success), i am starting off with 2014 as it has classic mode to ease me back in.

 

anyway i am starting to customise the graphics, beginning with the logos. i downloaded the standard logos megapack (they are beautiful by the way, just what i was looking for). i am going to start with logo editing as it seems easier than faces or kits etc.

 

i just have a couple of rookie questions i was hoping someone could advise me with:

 

firstly, as i am completely new to this i was wondering if i can seperate the club logos further into league folders? if so, would i have to alter config files etc?

 

secondly, is there an excel file or anything to tell me which IDs are for which clubs?

 

I will be fine with photoshop editing etc i mainly need assitance with the setup protocols for FM.

 

thank you for taking the time to read my post.

 

mons
17 years ago
2 hours ago
86,068
By Nickaberdeen 01 January 2022 - 04:40 AM UTC 

Hi Everyone,

 

this is my first ever post on this site (so i am hoping this is the right area for this, i apologise if its not), i recently decided i want to get back into FM after a long time without it. Long story short (for the sake of the length of the post) i am trying to track down old versions (with varying success), i am starting off with 2014 as it has classic mode to ease me back in.

 

anyway i am starting to customise the graphics, beginning with the logos. i downloaded the standard logos megapack (they are beautiful by the way, just what i was looking for). i am going to start with logo editing as it seems easier than faces or kits etc.

 

i just have a couple of rookie questions i was hoping someone could advise me with:

 

firstly, as i am completely new to this i was wondering if i can seperate the club logos further into league folders? if so, would i have to alter config files etc?

 

secondly, is there an excel file or anything to tell me which IDs are for which clubs?

 

I will be fine with photoshop editing etc i mainly need assitance with the setup protocols for FM.

 

thank you for taking the time to read my post.

 

It is entirely up to you to decide on how to set up your folder structure, but you would need to have a separate config file for each individual folder. With this in mind, and the fact that teams change divisions every season due to relegation/promotion, I would suggest that you keep everything in a single folder (or at least one per nation) simply for administrative purposes. Frankly, for the avoidance of confusion, I would not recommend that you change the folder structure from the original download at all, as there are hardly any practical reasons and benefits for doing so.

 

Secondly, you can get team's UIDs from the editor, or from the FM database search tool from this very site.

 

Thirdly, if you want to contribute to a particular pack, my suggestion would be to post in the respective pack's section to see (a) how to best proceed about it, (b) what rules/guidelines the pack has for contributions, and (c) what actually needs to be done to avoid duplicating other people's work.

 

Best of luck 👍

Nickaberdeen
2 years ago
2 years ago
3

the fact that teams change divisions every season due to relegation/promotion, I would suggest that you keep everything in a single folder (or at least one per nation) 

 

Thank you so much, that is exactly the kind of information i wouldnt have contemplated. i will definitely go by nation instead.

 

there are hardly any practical reasons and benefits for doing so.

 

The reason i was contemplating this was, 1. i have a little bit of OCD about keeping all of my photoshop work in seperate locations as opposed to all in one folder (it would also make it easier in future to change specific club logos if they update theirs, as i noticed a few have done over the years) and 2. i thought that way i would be able to reduce the amount of images i use. once you start adding in players, kits etc it is going to be a lot of images in total. 

 

once i got the logos installed and working i downloaded the player head megapack (which was a lot of images. i am not sure if it was the amount of images, the year of the game or my pc not being setup for gaming yet but the game struggled with so many images. Some of the heads worked, some didnt and a few minutes in the game froze and i had to restart my pc. so thought i would look into minimising the amount of images i would use.

 

you can get team's UIDs from the editor, or from the FM database search tool from this very site

 

Perfect. i will check out the search tool. i had a look on steam for the editor but i read somewhere they stop letting you download it after about 5 years so couldnt get the 2014 editor, unfortunately.

 

Thirdly, if you want to contribute to a particular pack

 

I havent really thought that far ahead yet, i was just going to have a little experiment with different aspects of graphics to get the hang of it first. 

 

 

 

Before i go, i dont suppose you know any way of me being able to find the correct kits for the specific years? i have spent quite a few hours going through the forums to see if there were alternate links in other posts as the links in the SS shirts no longer exist due to their age. i am hoping to be able to find new copies of all the games from 2009 onwards (as hard as that is going to be). if it is not possible i will look into creating them from scratch, obviously i would prefer to find some if possible though.

 

 

thank you for your assistance. i am sure once i start getting into this properly i will be quite active on the forum. i am not sure i have used the quotations correctly but i hope it works enough to understand

 

 

 

mons
17 years ago
2 hours ago
86,068
By Nickaberdeen 01 January 2022 - 10:13 AM UTC 

 

there are hardly any practical reasons and benefits for doing so.

 

The reason i was contemplating this was, 1. i have a little bit of OCD about keeping all of my photoshop work in seperate locations as opposed to all in one folder (it would also make it easier in future to change specific club logos if they update theirs, as i noticed a few have done over the years) and 2. i thought that way i would be able to reduce the amount of images i use. once you start adding in players, kits etc it is going to be a lot of images in total. 

 

once i got the logos installed and working i downloaded the player head megapack (which was a lot of images. i am not sure if it was the amount of images, the year of the game or my pc not being setup for gaming yet but the game struggled with so many images. Some of the heads worked, some didnt and a few minutes in the game froze and i had to restart my pc. so thought i would look into minimising the amount of images i would use.

 

While you can only have 1 config file in each folder, you can easily categorise by image type, like this, for example.

 

While I appreciate that you want to have things organised, dividing graphics (especially logos and faces, given the large amount thereof) into separate folders will simply increase a massive amount of administrative work in keeping them up-to-date. Configs work by associating the UID with the right graphic for it. It doesn't care if the logo is for a Chinese top division club, or a French non-league team, so you might as well have the filename as the UID and have every graphic type in a single folder for ease of reference.

 

If some of the faces appeared and some didn't, then you simply haven't installed it properly, I'm afraid.

 

Thirdly, if you want to contribute to a particular pack

 

I havent really thought that far ahead yet, i was just going to have a little experiment with different aspects of graphics to get the hang of it first. 

 

If you're going to be doing any kind of graphics, it helps to know what kind of rules/guidelines the contributors and community for that graphic type have. Otherwise you might well be wasting your time doing stuff in a manner which is neither correct nor efficient. Trust me, get involved from the outset so that you can be guided on how use your time as efficiently as possible. There's a reason why you were drawn to a particular graphic type, and by continuing to do what makes it so attractive to you will ensure it retains that quality. Otherwise you're just doing your own thing, really.

 

 

Before i go, i dont suppose you know any way of me being able to find the correct kits for the specific years? i have spent quite a few hours going through the forums to see if there were alternate links in other posts as the links in the SS shirts no longer exist due to their age. i am hoping to be able to find new copies of all the games from 2009 onwards (as hard as that is going to be). if it is not possible i will look into creating them from scratch, obviously i would prefer to find some if possible though.

 

Kitmakers prefer not have their files in megapacks, so you'd have to find and download them all individually. Frankly, looking for images from that far back is an utter waste of time, you won't find anything that old. I might have my old graphics folder (including kits) from FM14 to date on an external HD somewhere, but nothing older than that.

 

 

thank you for your assistance. i am sure once i start getting into this properly i will be quite active on the forum. i am not sure i have used the quotations correctly but i hope it works enough to understand

 

Quotations worked fine - my replies in bold above 👍

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