After much deliberation I finally decided to get hold of FM23. The first thing I set about doing was to repeat my 80s style European Competitions from FM22. Here is last year's link, on the SI forum, with a thorough description of how things came about https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/563004-80s-style-european-competitions/.
So here it is, 1970s and 1980s knockout European football. No group games, just straight on in with the 2 legged cup matches, and the crucial away goal is king of course! So I've removed all the modern day competitions and replaced them with the following:
European Cup - 55 teams (Champions of each country plus the winner of the European Cup to defend their crown). Straight knockout with a Qualifying Round, First Round, Second Round, Quarter Final, Semi Final, and Final.
European Cup Winners' Cup - 54 teams (Domestic FA Cup winner of each country). Straight knockout with a Qualifying Round, First Round, Second Round, Quarter Final, Semi Final, and Final.
UEFA Cup - 120 teams (Best next placed teams in leagues of each nation, ranging from 2 places to 4 places depending on nation's coefficient). Straight knockout with a Qualifying Round, First Round, Second Round, Third Round, Quarter Final, Semi Final, and a 2 legged Final.
European Super Cup - This replicates how it used to be, with the winner of the EC playing the winner of the ECWC.
Known Issues:
- I've embraced and accepted the hard coded rule that in the event of a domestic league and cup double, the Cup Winners Cup spot goes to the next place in the league rather than the runner up of the cup. I've got used to this now!
I cannot get the foreign player limit in squad selection rules to work. This would appear to be a bug and I am going to report it as such.FIXED- As I've lived in the editor for the last 2 weeks I really don't know if you'll hear any Champions League music being played! (Is that an issue??)
- I don't know if the dynamic nation movements actually works. I think it does as in some years a nation that had 3 UEFA spots would sometimes have 4 or vice versa. But it's quite sporadic so not entirely sure if it works as intended.
- There are a few nations that will have a European Playoff. This was mainly designed for qualification for the Europa League, and Conference League. I found it very complicated trying to remove these from nations. I have decided to keep them. Most provide a little entertainment, although Romania becomes a pointless playoff, and Belgium is just bizarre as to what team qualifies.... Load it and see!
- The Club World Championship works in the game, but I have haven't got my head round how teams are picked. To be fair, I have paid no attention to it. The winners of the European Cup are instructed to qualify for it. I have started work on a Club World Cup which will make my understanding alot easier.
- The 3rd Round of the UEFA Cup plays during the 2022 World Cup. It's FIFA's fault. The calendar is bunged so I just left it be. It'll only clash that year.
- I have allowed Russia and Belarus to take part. This is not me condoning the war in Ukraine. I just prefer to see all playable nations being allowed to take part.
- Finally if you want the Dutch Cup to work you must also use the Dutch file I have attached.
So that's it, enjoy it the way proper European football used to be!
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Daniel s Archer
Sorry for being stupid, but I can't work out where I'm supposed to put this in order to access it in the game. Could someone help me please.
moriarty
Put both files in the My Documents / sports interactive / football manager 2023 / editor data folder. Start a new career and you should have the 2 files available to tick once you select your database in the top right hand corner. Tick these 2 files and then continue to set your game up as normal.
Daniel s Archer
Thank you
Geoff Gayton
If it weren't for the foreign player bug you mention above then this would be a great database, I can't use hardly any of the players in the Arsenal squad because they're classed as foreign. I'll be keeping my eye out for any updates from you on this issue. Nice idea though π
moriarty
Well Geoff, I'm not sure how to break this to you, but when I do get the squad selection to work properly I think you'll still have the same issues! Maybe it's working but not showing in the rules and I haven't realised? I'll have to have a tinker about tonight.
This is a snippet from the FM22 version which I want to implement. It's all designed to encourage home grown players, younger players, and so you can't just fill the team with a load of Johnny Foreigners π
moriarty
I've checked the file this evening and can confirm that the squad selection rules I have set are definitely not working. I see that the UEFA Cup is stating no more than 3 non EU players allowed in the starting 11. Yeah this is a bug as I have not set that at all. I can't even see where that is being picked up from. I just hope Sports Interactive get on the ball and sort it out !!! If you get Arsenal into any of the other 2 competitions then there are no restrictions due to the bug.
Geoff Gayton
I appreciate your efforts in reaching out to SI about it. I'll just wait to see if you're able to fix the issue then try again with the updated DB. I love the concept of this as I remember the old style European competitions.
moriarty
GOOD NEWS. There was no bug at all, in was my error that caused the squad selection criteria to not work properly. I have fixed it, and all now works as it should.
How do I put an updated download up? Do I just add the new version on, or delete the old one, or both?
EDIT: Ok I think I've updated the file. If anyone would care to let me know if what I put up is working? Thanks
You will have to start a new game to see the changes.
HugoManager2001
hey moriarty
anyways can you do 00s Style European Competitons and 10s Style European Competitons
moriarty
Sorry Hugo I'm stuck in the 80s π
HugoManager2001
well is there someone else will do 90s and 00s european competitons style for me
Alan Breen
Edit all good π
kingrobbo
Stop hassling if it's something you want either start your own thread or try to do it yourself