**** Version 3.15 released 10th September. Reduced the high amount of prize money awarded for more realism ****
** Version 3.14 released 6th August. Moved UEFA Cup 3rd Round fixtures in the first season to January to avoid World Cup clash. **
** Version 3.13 released 31st July. Fixed First Round Second leg clashing with International fixtures, causing players to be unavailable for selection. **
** Version 3 was released 28th March, and updated to work with 23.4 (16th May) **
This is version 3 of my 80s Style European Competitions that I have released over the last few years. I have removed the version that worked with 23.3. There's been a bit of an overhaul from the first version. Version 3 sees me reverting back to using all 54 Nations again instead of 48 teams in version 2. However, unlike in the first version, San Marino's clubs will drift in and out of the European Cup and in the case of the European Cup Winners' Cup, San Marino's and Gibraltar's clubs fluctuate depending on if the Title Holders defend their crown.
The last major change from the previous versions sees the Scottish League Cup winners qualify for the UEFA Cup providing they have not already qualified via another route. This follows the English League Cup winners that I introduced in version 2. Both these were in place during the 80s, and it wasn't until 1995 that UEFA decided to put a stop to allowing the Scottish League Cup winners entry. Raith Rovers were the last to take advantage of this rule in 1994/95 season!
The competitions in order of importance are as follows....
European Cup: 54 team tournament. League Champions only plus the holders of the competition from the previous year. If the holders are also their nation's champions then an extra nation is invited to take part.
European Cup Winners' Cup: 54 team tournament again. (The first season sees 48 teams involved due to 3 nations not playing a Cup competition the year before). Domestic FA Cup winners take part. In the event that a team has done a league and cup double, then the runner-up takes their place. ** Yes, I finally got to see this work properly, after years of trying! ** Holders from the year before are invited back if not in the EC.
UEFA Cup: 112 team tournament, with a 2 legged final. A nation can have between 2 and 4 representatives depending on the ranking of the nation. Qualifying teams are based on league positions, and in England and Scotland, the League Cup winners qualify as they used to back in the day. (In modern times the English League Cup winner qualifies for the Europa Conference League, but not so anymore for Scotland). The holders are also invited back if not already partaking in European competition.
European Super Cup: The winners of the EC play the winners of the ECWC in August.
NOTES
- All matches are played over 2 legs, with the away goals rule included. The exception to this is the finals in the EC, ECWC, and the Super Cup.
- Liechtenstein get a representative in the ECWC, as despite no domestic league, they do have a domestic cup.
- I've now got the 'Round Tree' to show when looking at the Stages screen.
- Russia and Belarus are included. I'm not making a political statement here, I just prefer to see the teams competing. It's still a game after all!
- I have a added club coefficient points for drawing and winning matches. This is based on how it was in the 80s. I cannot get the coefficients page to show in the game as I had to keep the rules as fixed, and they only show in flexible rules. However if you look at the League Reputation page, in the Europe tab, you will see that the top 16 leagues are the countries that will be receiving byes to the first round of the EC and ECWC. This does change over time. I have tested into the next century and I can confirm that this part of the game is dynamic. I don't know if my allocation of club coefficient points effects the league rankings but it is something I will explore further in future releases.
- The Club World Championship works in the game, but I have haven't got my head round how teams are picked. I have paid no attention to it as I use a 6 team Club World Cup file. It will work with other files as well. The winners of the EC are instructed to qualify for it.
The 3rd Round of the UEFA Cup plays during the 2022 World Cup. It's FIFA's fault. The calendar is bunged so I just left it be. It'll only clash that year.Fixed in version 3.14- Some European leagues have European playoffs at the end of their season. These are rendered useless now as the UEFA Cup takes the league placings for the qualifiers. Belgium and Romania spring to mind. If the league splits into a Championship group the final placings in this mini league is what counts.
- You will notice at the end of the season that the league champions have a 'C' next to them in the final league table. There's no visible information from the league table screen to say who has qualified for what. This is not a bug. It is because I did away with the Europe > Continent > Teams tab in the editor. You can find out who has qualified for what by clicking the team overview and then competition to see what they're involved in in the new season.
- Please use the Dutch file attached along with this file if you want the Dutch FA Cup to work.
- Place both files in the 'editor data' folder, and tick them when you start a new career game.
- Date Created
- 13 Jan 2023 19:23:27
- Date Updated
- 10 Sep 2023 15:02:04
- Last Comment
- 06 Feb 2024 09:36:27
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Matthew Cowie
Do you think it would work if i directly copied the files for the ECWC in your mod and made a new mod just the ECWC (for personal use of course)
\'Appy \'Ammer
I think you would have to copy the ECWC into a Continental file with the Champions League and Europa League in it to stop the duplication of teams. You would also need to have some order of competition importance so the ignore team rule knows when to ignore teams and when not to. I'm not sure if you just did the ECWC on it's own whether it would do what you want, due to duplicated teams. Feel free to experiment.
Riptor
Hello,
First big thanks for this update! I have noticed in the first round of UEFA cup that I received 25M for participating to this round. I also see there is a prize money of 25M for each round ! on top of the winner prize. I guess this is a bug ?
\'Appy \'Ammer
Hi @Riptor , 25m is appearance money for making the 1st round. There is then prize money in each round thereafter but it is not 25m each round. For making to the 2nd round it's 3m, 3rd round 5m, QF 7m, SF 10m, and Final winner gets 30m and runner up gets 15.
But hold fire….. it's been raised on the SI forum (was it you?), that the finances in my file are too high. It's been raised before about the high prize money. My first thoughts were to keep it high as a big carrot for clubs but I hadn't realised that I had effectively given UEFA a purse 4.5 billion euros to dish out amongst the 4 European competitions, as opposed to a more realistic figure of just over 2 billion euros. I have redone the file and adjusted the finances to reflect this. The finances are much more weighted in the favour of the European Cup, and then the Cup Winners Cup. This in itself will add more reward for winning that domestic league or cup, rather than finishing 4th or 5th in the league and still guaranteeing a windfall. There's still money to be won but it's scaled down alot and the UEFA Cup is not as financially luxurious as the European Cup, which should be the case.
I am currently running a test save just to see how the adusted finances effect things. All being well I'll upload the file by tomorrow.
\'Appy \'Ammer
I have holidayed up to 2098. I'll update the link at the top of the page and people can make their own mind's up. I think it is better for realism sake. I'll share with you some of the movers and shakers in the holiday save. Bear in mind that it is a save that only had one nation as playable (N Ireland) and the rest was the top division in each league in Europe on view only. So the results will only be going on reputation rather than AI squad building and proper full detail matches. I also had other editor files in place that I use.
The European Cup had lots of English winners, with periods of Spanish and German dominance. Newcastle, Liverpool, Man Utd, Real Madrid, and Bayern feature alot. There was quite a large variety of runners up teams which was good to see. There was more of a mixture in the ECWC, I noted that Freiburg and AFC Bournemouth were amongst the winners. The UEFA Cup was dominated mainly by English clubs.
Delving into a few selected nations...In Italy the big surprise was that Spezia Calcio became a major force from the 2050s onwards. It all sort of began with a runner up position in the ECWC in 2049, and won it in 2055. They ruled Serie A for decades, and were runners up in the EC in 2068, 2069, 2071, 2076, 2078, 2080, 2084, and 2085. They eventually won it in 2092 and then again in 2097!
France saw PSG fall away after 2042. Nantes and Nice were quite dominant. Man Utd ruled England in the 40s and 50s, and then there were lots of Newcastle, Liverpool, and Man City wins, with a sprinkling of other teams littered about. Real Madrid ruled Spain, with Barcelona only winning the league twice during those 75 years. Athletico, Mallorca, Elche, and Huesca were the only other 5 teams to win La Liga at various times between Real winning.
Unfortunately I couldn't really dig deep into the finances of clubs due to NI teams filling up the rich list as they were the only detailed league. But with 2.5 billion less euros being dished out in prize money each year there is bound to be a difference. This has whet the appetite for me to fire up a new save, and hopefully it might inspire others as well. Have fun if you do.
Jeff I
Good work, hopefully there’s an FM24 version soon
\'Appy \'Ammer
There will be. I've started work on it but will be doing lots of testing, and hope the editor is bug free.
Павле Бабић
Hello! Congrats on the great work so far, when we get an approximate release date for the 24 version?
\'Appy \'Ammer
Hi there, to be honest I've been very disappointed with fm24 so far and it's somewhat deflated me. The editor is not behaving as it did last year, meaning I have to recreate the files from scratch. I am hoping one of the early SI (regular?) patches would save me a good bit of work, but I have a feeling the editor is not high on their list of priorities. In which case I will continue rebuilding the file. Approximate release date?
Beginning of December I reckon.Edit: I have just looked through the amount of bugs being reported with the editor. I have decided I will not be touching my file until the editor is in an acceptable state for working on. Very frustrating.
Alexander Sookie
Sadly your update isnt working and the UEFA cup still has the 3 non eu player limit. but that may be due to me using this on fm24 in absence of an fm24 version, but i doubt it given the bugs apparent existence on fm23
\'Appy \'Ammer
I'm not sure I understand you. There was no bug, that is how I had originally set the player limits. I have changed this on the last update. Obviously this is for fm24 and not fm23. If you are using the fm23 version then the player limits will be there.
I just realised this is the fm23 thread! Here is the current fm24 version. https://sortitoutsi.net/content/64380/80s-style-european-competitions-fm24
If you are still using fm23, you can use the pre game editor to change the player limits to how you want.