Carroll.
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Who's a good option for him? Chelsea and City, he won't get a game. Arsenal maybe. But I think people don't realise how shit he's been this season, if we get 30 million for him I'd take it and run.
Carroll.
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Also your second point seems like you forget what a selling club you were for years.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
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Sterling has been average this season partly because of himself not giving a fuck, partly because of the woeful team he's in and massively because his manager is a fucking idiot. Why would you ever put Sterling up front? It's the same ridiculousness with Di Maria and Van Gaal.

He'd get in ahead of Oscar for me and he'd walk into City's side imo. Even Bayern would be a great move for him with Robben & Ribery being over 30.

And yeah, we were a selling club because one, we were a bit wank and two we had massive financial restrictions. That clearly hasn't been the case at Liverpool and the fact we've finished above you for the majority of the move to the Emirates where Andrey Arshavin was our most expensive player in about 13 years at the fee of 15m is a testament of how poor of a football club Liverpool are.
Carroll.
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Cry me a river.

Woeful team, its basically the same side that almost won the league, now Suarez didnt have a problem playing in that woeful team and being decent.

Also hes played up front cause with Sturridge out he qas our best option there. And he actually looked decent up there for a while until he decided to be a whiny little prick. Hed never get into Joses side cause he doesnt work hard enough and track back, plus hes actually very wasteful with the ball. At City hell end up like every other Sinclair etc player they signed. No idea where the Bayern link is coming from but he wont fit into that team at all imo, let alone all the different league, country etc bullshit.

The thing is hes actually got potential to be a decent player, had it not been for letting all the fame get to him. Hes had one good season and thinks hes the gods gift. Ill be glad to see the back off him with all this bullshit hes spouting after Rodgers showed immense trust in him.

Yes, that 4th place finish for years must have been such a proud achievement. Plus one trophy (well you might make it 2 this year) for 10 years is a great record. Youre also making it sound like youve had no cash, yet weve splashed about splashed about, when our spending has been low key on average and not really splashed much on one player (other than Carroll but the less said the better). Pre Benitez leaving era (after which we had a massive dip - in stature and football terms, with the new owners only just about clearing the bullshit), I think an FA cup, Champions League, plus a couple semis and quaters was a decent return for such a poor club. Yeah league has always been an achilles but thats another story, and Id argue we came closer to challenging for it than you have in the last decade (last year and 2009).

Edit: My bad with spelling, was on my phone
Sam
17 years ago
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Felt 'bullied' into signing a new contract, oh please.

Idiot.
Carroll.
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Id actually sell him and get the money, but seeing him rot in the reserves will be good too
Based Jorge
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Cry me a river.

Woeful team, its basically the same side that almost won the league, now Suarez didnt have a problem playing in that woeful team and being decent.

Also hes played up front cause with Sturridge out he qas our best option there. And he actually looked decent up there for a while until he decided to be a whiny little prick. Hed never get into Joses side cause he doesnt work hard enough and track back, plus hes actually very wasteful with the ball. At City hell end up like every other Sinclair etc player they signed. No idea where the Bayern link is coming from but he wont fit into that team at all imo, let alone all the different league, country etc bullshit.

The thing is hes actually got potential to be a decent player, had it not been for letting all the fame get to him. Hes had one good season and thinks hes the gods gift. Ill be glad to see the back off him with all this bullshit hes spouting after Rodgers showed immense trust in him.


He will be a World Class player, and he'll easily find his potential away from a crackpot manager.

Yes, that 4th place finish for years must have been such a proud achievement. Plus one trophy (well you might make it 2 this year) for 10 years is a great record. Youre also making it sound like youve had no cash, yet weve splashed about splashed about, when our spending has been low key on average and not really splashed much on one player (other than Carroll but the less said the better). Pre Benitez leaving era (after which we had a massive dip - in stature and football terms, with the new owners only just about clearing the bullshit), I think an FA cup, Champions League, plus a couple semis and quaters was a decent return for such a poor club. Yeah league has always been an achilles but thats another story, and Id argue we came closer to challenging for it than you have in the last decade (last year and 2009).

Edit: My bad with spelling, was on my phone


07/08 was the best team we had for a long time. Big things could've been achieved if it wasn't for a ridiculous captain in Gallas, an error prone LB in Clichy & Martin Tyler fatality'ing Eduardo's leg just as soon as he hit goalscoring form didn't really help. The problem is with the challenges Liverpool have made especially is that it has always hinged on one or two players. Take them out and you're left with a realistic 7th place finish and no ability to be able to challenge for the title until another class player comes along.

To be fair we could've actually had a title shout last year if it wasn't to Wenger being the most incompetent I've seen in a while. He's rectified it completely but his stubborn head still rears it's ugly head every now and then.

And if Sterling goes & players like Ings and Berahino come in; well you'll be waiting a long time to challenge again. Liverpool aren't going attract Reus, Pedro etc and have failed to build on solid foundations once again. Whereas for Arsenal, well I'm looking forward to the next couple of years. An Özil/Alexis signing every summer, players keep developing and once Arsene retires the manager who comes in will have one of the best jobs in football. Can't see us winning the League within the next 5 years, but as long as we challenge and continue to get the odd FA Cup and show progress in Europe then I can't have any complaints.
Carroll.
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Rodgers isn't a 'crackpot manager'. I'm not saying he's the saviour or anything, but he's clearly has an idea of what he wants us to play and is implementing it. He's made some stupid decision in that time and he's very frustrating but he's better than the Hodgon and Dalglish we've had for years. Also Sterling won't become world class if he continues the way he has. I don't know whether it's his agent advising him wrong or whether he's letting fame get to him but he's not as good as he thinks he is. I think cause people remember last year plus he was okay at the world cup (where his highlight was hitting the side netting against Italy) they're automatically think he'll become a good player. There's been plenty like him before that showed similar potential only to never realize it. I'd argue were the best option for him as he is guaranteed to play every week, Rodgers even let him have a week off for a holiday ffs. He wont get anywhere near the amount of games at another club and that's a fact.

Also if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. The fact is we have put in two better challenges than you have in those years and I think it's unfair to call it all on Suarez/Torres. Yeah they were world class players but putting it all on them is a little unfair on the rest of the team. We've also had some decent teams down the years, with Alonso, Mascherano, Torres etc and last year Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho, so no, it wasn't just hinged on one or two players/

And as for signings world class players, again it's something I'd argue about. I'd agree we probably haven't got as much pulling power as you at the moment, but it's nowhere near as bad as you make out. If we were to splash the cash we'd be able to get some of the players mentioned (not sure if they'd actually be our targets considering Rodgers weird transfer dealings but that's another discussion completely). I'd also argue you only signed Ozil and Sanchez as they were already on the way out from a way bigger club and wasn't really in competition for them (well maybe we were interested in Sanchez but would you call that competition?).

There's been better players than Sterling who left the club at worst times. It's not as bad as made out. We just need to get the right signings this time, the likes of Lallana and Markovic are actually decent and should settle in more. Oh and sort out Sturridge.
Number 1
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He will be a World Class player, and he'll easily find his potential away from a crackpot manager.

07/08 was the best team we had for a long time. Big things could've been achieved if it wasn't for a ridiculous captain in Gallas, an error prone LB in Clichy & Martin Tyler fatality'ing Eduardo's leg just as soon as he hit goalscoring form didn't really help. The problem is with the challenges Liverpool have made especially is that it has always hinged on one or two players. Take them out and you're left with a realistic 7th place finish and no ability to be able to challenge for the title until another class player comes along.

Would've been quite an achievement for that to happen from the commentary box.

Anyway, Sterling is coming across as being a bit of a whiny tit, and has been out of sorts since Liverpool's winning run was ended by Man U, but he's still one of their better players and Liverpool would be worse off if he was to leave. Obviously he's 20 and needs time to improve, but he's still a more useful presence than Lallana and Lambert are proving to be for them.
Croy
13 years ago
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Felt 'bullied' into signing a new contract, oh please.

Idiot.


Somebody please bully me in a 100k per week contract... For that money I will wash the balls of the entire team
ianbaker
12 years ago
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Somebody please bully me in a 100k per week contract... For that money I will wash the balls of the entire team

For 100k per week I'd do it with my tongue.
.verse
12 years ago
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What's up with his mask anyway?

Fabregas'? Charlie Adam broke his nose with a solid elbow.

As for Sterling, he'd get a game at Chelsea. We lack another scoring wide player to take the burden off Hazard a little. A simple rejig of Willian moving central, where he plays better and a wide player coming in strengthens us further. Oscar can either move to the bench or be sold, I could care less at this point.
Slashman X
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He'd easily replace Navas in City's XI too I'd bet. Or even push Silva central with Navas and Sterling on the wings
bluemoon.
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Yeah, he'd easily get into this current City team, and even with the raft of new signings this summer he'd still probably get a regular game.
Carroll.
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Fabregas'? Charlie Adam broke his nose with a solid elbow.

As for Sterling, he'd get a game at Chelsea. We lack another scoring wide player to take the burden off Hazard a little. A simple rejig of Willian moving central, where he plays better and a wide player coming in strengthens us further. Oscar can either move to the bench or be sold, I could care less at this point.


Why does he only wear it sometimes? I recall him wearing it in the first half against us then had it off for the second.

You might as well all start putting the bids in for him, the sooner the better!
Poe
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Sterling won't become a genuine world class player playing at Liverpool.

They're not good enough.
Carroll.
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Nobody is even saying we are good enough or that he'll become a world class player, and I could argue about that but I won't. It's more with how he's come out with it all, plus I don't think you can argue that right now, for the next year or two this club is the best for his development. Also seen some stuff like he doesn't owe Liverpool anything, well actually if anything, he's a prime example of a player who owes some loyalty to a club. The trust Rodgers showed in him has been immense.
Dan
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Sterling can fuck off, hes a greedy little kid whos trying to take on a club who gave him his first break and made him into what he is now and without Rodgers on board Sterling wouldn't be on the scene. I like Rodgers, some of his dealings have been woeful to say the least but I think he will become a great manager! However selling Sterling seems a must this year, but we cannot sale him to a fellow Premier League club, that'd just be stupid!
Poe
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You'll never walk alone eh.
Based Jorge
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Sterling being 'greedy' is the biggest crock of shit I've heard.

When Nasri, van Persie, Cesc left it all wasn't about greed from the tabloids. It was about bettering their careers at better clubs. It's exactly the same case here and the Liverpool bias among today's media is pretty fucking absurd.
Flash.
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Sterling being 'greedy' is the biggest crock of shit I've heard.

When Nasri, van Persie, Cesc left it all wasn't about greed from the tabloids. It was about bettering their careers at better clubs. It's exactly the same case here and the Liverpool bias among today's media is pretty fucking absurd.


It's not the same at all.

RVP and Fabregas had been at Arsenal for about 8 years each. Fabregas left to go to his boyhood club and RVP left as he wanted to win trophies after a long time at Arsenal and due to his age was running out of time.

Sterling has just broke into the team within the last 2 years and he wants to jump ship already when he's only 20 and has done fuck all yet.
King Luis
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It's not the same at all.

RVP and Fabregas had been at Arsenal for about 8 years each. Fabregas left to go to his boyhood club and RVP left as he wanted to win trophies after a long time at Arsenal and due to his age was running out of time.

Sterling has just broke into the team within the last 2 years and he wants to jump ship already when he's only 20 and has done fuck all yet.


Nail on head.

He seems to think he's at a higher level as player than he actually is, actually thats probably unfair this all stinks of poor advice from his people, weather that be his agent/manager/family.
K3V0
15 years ago
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Sterling should have signed the new deal and told Rodgers if we're not challenging for the title in 2-3 years I'll want to move because it's not just about money but trophies for me. I want to be challenging and I hope I can do that at Liverpool, so I'll wait until I'm 23-24 and then if we're not challenging I'll move. He's not as good as he thinks he is either, don't think he's even worth 100K a week tbh.
.verse
12 years ago
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Why does he only wear it sometimes? I recall him wearing it in the first half against us then had it off for the second.

You might as well all start putting the bids in for him, the sooner the better!

He's worn it consistently since breaking his nose, however there's been a couple times where he's taken it off during the second half of games, which I can only assume is down to either comfort or his vision is being impaired. I know that's usually the same thing that happens with NBA players when they wear them. The usual complaint is that peripheral vision is impaired, glare reflecting from the mask is annoying and they fog up/get annoying when sweat builds up.

He'll need to pull his head in if he's to join. While I wouldn't want to the club paying a ridiculous fee for him. He's certainly not worth excess of £25m currently, and that's being generous.
.verse
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Sterling should have signed the new deal and told Rodgers if we're not challenging for the title in 2-3 years I'll want to move because it's not just about money but trophies for me. I want to be challenging and I hope I can do that at Liverpool, so I'll wait until I'm 23-24 and then if we're not challenging I'll move. He's not as good as he thinks he is either, don't think he's even worth 100K a week tbh.

I think he's also probably well aware that Liverpool are well off the pace with little chance of realistically winning anything beyond a domestic cup competition for the next couple of years. Factor in that he's from London, so there's little incentive beyond playing regularly to stay. I can't see any of the top sides forking out huge wages for him when he's proved nothing, nor would be a regular in any of the sides interested. If he's happy to take a reasonable wage and understands he'll feature less than he does at Liverpool, then he'd be a good signing for most sides.
Slashman X
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Nobody is even saying we are good enough or that he'll become a world class player, and I could argue about that but I won't. It's more with how he's come out with it all, plus I don't think you can argue that right now, for the next year or two this club is the best for his development. Also seen some stuff like he doesn't owe Liverpool anything, well actually if anything, he's a prime example of a player who owes some loyalty to a club. The trust Rodgers showed in him has been immense.


Hahahaha. Sterling would be tremendously wise to get as far away from Rodgers as possible. This is the guy who overplayed him so much he needed a holiday in the middle of the season ffs. Sterling owes Liverpool nothing, they were simply the highest bidder when he was looking for a club, not like the fucking found him naked in a hole in the woods.

Liverpool fans just can't accept the fact that they're now simply a "stepping stone" club, as Rodgers so gladly called Southampton last summer
Carroll.
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Don't be so stupid. Had it not been for Rodgers actually playing him 'so much', i.e going to a club like City, he would have ended up like your Sinclair etc or still be rotting in reserves without a game to his name. I think the fact Rodgers gave him a break in the middle of the season is anything something Sterling should have some respect for, there isn't any senior players who would get that sort of treatment yet alone a 20 year old who's forms been shit.

I don't think anyone begrudges him if he does eventually leave, or even if he left this year without being a total cunt about it. But Flash hit the nail on the head, he's "just broke into the team within the last 2 years and he wants to jump ship already when he's only 20 and has done fuck all yet".
Slashman X
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Don't be so stupid. Had it not been for Rodgers actually playing him 'so much', i.e going to a club like City, he would have ended up like your Sinclair etc or still be rotting in reserves without a game to his name. I think the fact Rodgers gave him a break in the middle of the season is anything something Sterling should have some respect for, there isn't any senior players who would get that sort of treatment yet alone a 20 year old who's forms been shit.

I don't think anyone begrudges him if he does eventually leave, or even if he left this year without being a total cunt about it. But Flash hit the nail on the head, he's "just broke into the team within the last 2 years and he wants to jump ship already when he's only 20 and has done fuck all yet".


Sterling is miles better than Sinclair, absolutely anyone in the world could see that, comparing those 2 situations is fucking retarded. It's like saying, "Why would Sterling go to Liverpool, look at what happened toAspa, Ilori etc". Rodgers ran him into the ground like nothing I've ever seen before, absolutely terrible management and you can see it's affected him this season. He's smart to want to get away from him before he does any more damage.

Yes, cos Liverpool is a stepping stone club. He thinks he can accomplish more at another club so why wouldn't he want to leave?
Carroll.
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It's a vary similar situation actually, no matter how much better Sterling is. Fucking ran him into the grand, he's a football player ffs, wanting 100k a week, let's not be ridiculous. Plus the only reason he played so much is cause Sturridge was out and the rest are shit.

Stepping club my arse. Plus what exactly is he going to accomplish at another club? Playing his 5 games to get a winners medal at Chelsea? Yeah that's top for his development.
Poe
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Liverpool are a stepping stone club for the world class players tbf - nothing to be ashamed about.

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