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Based Jorge
I agree with you re: Shaw however, it was a wise investment considering how young he is and the huge potential he has. It's pretty much the equivalent of paying £3m a season for him and it isn't that bad really.
Ninja
I don't really think we need to spend that much, £60-£70m on a centre back, centre midfielder (unless Hererra can cement his place) and winger (probably/hopefully Depay). Rooney back up front and Nani back from loan. A new right back if rafael can't get back into the side, too.
I'd rather we didn't make a ton of signings and just improved on what we've got, its clear that the upheaval of last summer (new manager, new players, lots of players leaving etc...) set us back as players gelled in and settled and doing it all again this summer is not ideal.
It's not a case of needing players, really, its about getting the best out of the players we've got.
Based Jorge
It's almost as if United are losing their identity, it's pretty much become what Chelsea & City have become symbols of. But I guess that's the fallout of Ferguson leaving.
Ninja
I don't see how its really a legitimate criticism. We've got 3 players who are ready for game time in the first time, Januzaj, McNair and Wilson, and they're getting regular game time. If anything, I think Wilson and McNair probably aren't quite as ready as they should be.
It's just at the stage now where if you're not making 2-3 additions to your first team every season then you fall behind because everyone else is. City are as good an example of that as anyone. Spending £60-£70m in a transfer window just isn't unusual for any big club, teams are spending that on individual players now.
Based Jorge
Even if you got shown a United team when they didn't win the League under Fergie compared to now it looks like two completely different clubs. But I guess everything has to come to an end at some point.
Flash.
When you consider Liverpool spent 120m and Arsenal about 90m it's hardly ridiculous. Everyone knew there squad needed rebuilding and it would cost a fair bit.
Shaw will be a good signing and as said, potentially there left back for the next 10-15 years. 30m could be a bargain.
Rojo, Blind and Hererra have been decent signings and Di Maria has shown a lot but will just take a bit more time to get used to the league, injuries haven't helped him either. 10 assists and 3 goals in 16 starts is hardly terrible. Fucking awful at corners though.
Falcao being shit and RVP losing all form is what's hurt the most. The reason Van Gaal is getting more time than Moyes is that he inherited a squad that was fucked with no morale and has rebuilt it, I think people really underestimate how difficult it is to get so many new players (Almost all from overseas) to gel, it's going to take time. Moyes inherited a good squad that just won the league and he made no changes to it, you don't go from champions to shit in 3 months. It was his responsibility to get new players if he felt he needed them.
When I saw the team yesterday it was the first time in the last 12-18 months that I thought it actually looked strong. Given time and a consistent starting 11 it will come good.
.verse
He hasn't been a bad signing though, just not worth what has initially been paid. Time will only tell if it's a good deal or not.
K3V0
.verse
And it's a realistic concern to have and one that does need to be taken into consideration. If the situation arose where they all started to want out the club would be struggling to get their money back on some players if they're knowingly unsettled. Having just taken a look at United's run in, they've got quite a challenging finish to the season. If they miss out on the Champions League again this season, next year the pressure is really going to be on. I can't see some players wanting to stay if the club struggle again next season too.
K3V0
Based Jorge
Any manager that came into the job straight after Fergie left would've had a tough time. Rooney was poor, van Persie was on the decline already, Vidic & Ferdinand left. Van Gaal wouldn't have done any better than Moyes last season.
Ninja
Well yes, but that's true of literally every transfer in the history of football. Even in the unlikely scenario that everything you said turns out true he still won't have been that bad a signing compared some other £30m+ transfers.
Sam
Also reading how happy he was after his Liverpool performance makes me love him even more.
Ninja
After our third goal on saturday Mata ran forwards and celebrated in front of the Strety. I was sat in the front row literally 2 metres away from him, I nearly swooned.
K3V0
I hate you a little bit right now
Would love to live in Manchester for just a year so I could frequently go to games at Old Trafford.
Sam
You lucky bastard.
Sam
Great news.
Sam
LvG's speech is amazing, he's so fucking drunk.
Sam
Best manager's speech ever.
Slashman X
Sam
I don't know what warranted that, he's been getting worse each season tbh. Still only 23, so he's got time on his side.
Big Dunc.
BR.
SpinSwimScream
K3V0
Needs that to change to progress.
SpinSwimScream
Poe
K3V0
His only hope would be we don't sign a proper right back, sell Rafael and Valencia isn't played there.
Not sure what to make of the Ramos rumours. I suppose he's won everything at Madrid and maybe he's thinking of a new experience/challenge at United and also more money as well.
Ninja
Flash.
RVP, Nani and now Rafael all for 2-3m each.
The like of Robbie Brady and James Chester are going for about 8m.
bmg033