Now that you had pointed that out, I managed to see that one as an earring. Although it probably should have been kept, removing it is not completely unforgivable that the cut required a remake?

Thanks for pointing that out, I actually missed it even when I saw the original image and removed it based on instinct.

Yes, but you corrected me on something I've already considered. On the overexposed part of the hair, you are right.
Then this mess comes from the fact that we are two fussy people 😀

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By mons 16 July 2021 - 18:05 PM UTC

@Cizzu, first of all, I'll comment whenever I deem fit, not when you allow me to ‘interfere’. Secondly, I'm tired of seeing you react with a lot of pointless, irrelevant and often wrong waffle every time somebody politely points out something you can tweak in your cutting technique.

Yes, I wrote it to you in a good-natured manner. Try to understand..
If everything I write, my interlocutor intervenes, then you also intervene, then Baka also arrives, you understand even by yourself that you are creating the mess, uselessly. We are intelligent people, no one is fighting, we can understand each other very well even without a mediator who often does more damage than anything else. There is no need for the teacher or the traffic cop. That's all. 🙂

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By Ttggfr 16 July 2021 - 16:11 PM UTC

Firstly, I put your cut on a white background for a check.

Your cut on a white background

We may see that on the right hand side of the cut, there is a black part below the ear that is definitely not a part of the shirt nor a part of his face, and this can be identified with a white background for checking.

Then, we put the cut onto a black background.

Yes… beacause it's a earring !!!

You should look at the original image before making these wrong observations! 😀

By Ttggfr 16 July 2021 - 16:11 PM UTC

There were some unwanted white parts found there. These do not look good and may need fixing

While sometimes it looked natural as the source was bright itself, the parts circled in red does not look too nice. Usually, there was a part that you commonly refer as light reflection would be called snow. In this instance, the part circled on the hair has the most notable snow, and the white outline (or background not removed), though sometimes unnoticeable, would contain snow. While sometimes you may fail to identify, better if you would just do the snow removal procedure with clone stamping around the edges of the WHOLE cut to avoid missing any.

Yes, I know, it's right. Thanks for the fix.

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By Ttggfr 16 July 2021 - 08:44 AM UTC

Well I admit that I would myself also make mistakes at times, but the way I reacted was due to the over-reaction from previous encounters, when you have someone who responded to criticisms badly and telling me there were snow in my eyes, how polite would you expect me to be?

😀 So I'm sorry. But that was an ironic answer ... because many times I really struggle to see snow, so it gets nerve-wracking every time to correct something I don't see. I don't want to look like a annoying person 🙂

By Ttggfr 16 July 2021 - 08:44 AM UTC

For this cut, unlike the one you actually did make a valid point, actually did not cut the chin off, but left no space below the chin, which kind of was the standard around here. This site would tend to leave little to no space below the chin, and would often nudge the collar as well, so not like I really love people without neck, but it was for the standards of this site. In fact, for my personal preference, without the snow issue and the right ear issue, I would have preferred your cut for the neck length.

Yes exactly. But I don't think that for an extra inch of neck someone will go into crisis! Faces cut like in this way, without necks, are really ugly: people look short and stocky when they aren't at all. We try, as far as we can, to maintain the person's own physiognomy 😉

#642573 Sebastian Page

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Thanks! much better 🙂

#642572 Jonathan Mattei

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By Ttggfr 15 July 2021 - 16:48 PM UTC

Why did you alter the ability to admit you having room for improvement?

1 - Is this only valid one way? Instead, are you able to listen and understand the reasons of another person? If you answer in this piquant way I think not.

2 - You have darkened the shadow area. There was really no reason. Maybe you have very different monitor settings than I have.
3 - You cut the face in the chin. In this way the face appears much more stocky and less slender. He looks like another person!
4 - If you think you make things better, without accepting a contradictory, you have fallen into solipsism. So just talk to yourself.
5 - This mess for the face of a player from an unknown Italian league (80% of fm players will not load it), is really excessive.

By mons 15 July 2021 - 11:13 AM UTC

Also, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it might be the language barrier, but I'd prefer it if you were a bit more respectful in the way you speak to other users, especially when the previous communication is polite and constructive.

Mons please don't interfere 🙂. I don't like rhetoric. I don't know very well express myself in English, but if someone prevails over me, I answer. I shut up once, twice, but the third time I answer. It's natural.

By mons 15 July 2021 - 11:13 AM UTC