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#527730 Cut-Out Regen Megapack - Home thread
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@krissmed @Footygamer I think the ideal solution would be a download similar to the megapack, separated into folders for the different in-game ethnicities, with a small piece of software similar to fmXML that can take a list of regens from a save file and generate a config using a method along the lines of "if Player ID **** has ethnicity 'African/Caribbean' listed, then that player ID is assigned an image from the sub-folder 'African/Caribbean'" (whatever that would be in code speak ). I don't know if a single config file could assign to sub-folders within the main folder, or if a separate config file would need to be generated for each sub-folder.

Of course the main problems with this would both what you previously mentioned @Footygamer that this would only work for one save file, and that you would need to repeat this process for every youth intake year in game when more newgens are generated, but this would all still be preferable to any existing alternative!

Are you able to specifically export the assigned ethnicity of a player using Genie Scout, rather than their nationality? I'm on mac so can't use the software myself unfortunately - I assume not as the ethnicity parameter holds no relevance for what Genie Scout does, but hopefully from the same way they extract the save game data the ethnicity parameter can also be extracted.
#527527 Cut-Out Regen Megapack - Home thread
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Have you posted this over at sports interactive's forum? Maybe you could get some coding/training help from someone over there.

Good idea, I've mirrored the top post over to a thread there
#527470 Javi Navarro
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@Horky I already have sources collected and waiting to be cut for a few Segunda Division teams so I've fulfilled your last two requests but as Baja said above please try and find higher quality sources in the future as the image you provided are far too small to work with.
#527420 Cut-Out Regen Megapack - Home thread
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You should pitch the idea to the guys over at fmscout as they are responsable for genie scout. Maybe they can help you out with the coding. I have almost no knowledge on this stuff but I figure the hardest part is to extract the data. Once you've managed that you just need to generate a config based on age, role, nationality, etc.

As for the source collecting, thispersondoesntexist isn't perfect, but you won't run into problems where faces are recogniceable and you can get as many source as you'd like. The racial and age diveristy is not great though, it's mostly white or asian people between 30 and 40. Although, if you want all people ingame to have a real face, you'll also need staff pictures, which it can provide.

Alternatively you could use some like this to edit current cuts.

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You can train this AI on your own images. Although I'm very unfamiliar with both phyton and tensorflow so it's best to leave it someone else. Just don't delete the sources you already cut so that we can use those to train the AI.

Would love to also include real images for staff later down the line but think that depends on the interest/success for just the players first of all. Would also have no idea how to train the AI myself so hopefully someone would be able to lend a hand there. Would be great to get it up and running though, could also include the abundance of player portraits out there, recognisable or not, as the end result would eventually be indistinguishable I'd imagine! Sites like transfermarkt would be a good place to start with images for the AI training.
#527193 Image finder thread - assistance in finding a source image
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#527173 Cut-Out Regen Megapack - Home thread
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Great concept and it's definitely doable to automate it. Genie scout is able to get all sorts of data from an open save, for example nationality, age and whether the player is a regen or not.

As for image finding, thispersondoesnotexist.com is a great place for finding decent looking sources. It's basically an AI that makes a randomally generated portrait, so there is no chance of it being recognicable. Here is a google drive folder with 100k generated images,

That's encouraging, hopefully there would be a way of incorporating a player's ethnicity or nationality to the config if that data can be exported. As for the AI generated portraits that's a fantastic idea. Could be a great way of working around sources if it could be trained specifically with footballer's/athlete's portraits, at the moment from that website it's a bit of a lucky dip with age/gender/too close a crop unfortunately.

My quick work around for this was to download megapack version 3 and just use old faces to then manually replace the new gens. There are plenty of images in it and not easy to recognise hardly anyone plus the images are already cut and only need upscaling to 250x250. Hope this helps as your idea is really good and would definitely add to the realism as I replace the regens now manually. Good Luck

The main problem I'd have with this would be the poor image quality from upscaling. Hopefully we can gather enough sources to not see repeats in game but without the need to upscale images!
#527151 Facepacks Release thread - NO REQUESTS
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#526812 Cut-Out Regen Megapack - Home thread
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Help Needed!

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Download Test Pack 1 Here


I think we can all agree that the 3D faces in Football Manager aren't what they could be, and for many people take away from getting truly immersed into the game. And while unfortunately there has been no effective way of replacing newgen/regen faces since the system was changed to from 2D to 3D generated faces in FM18, as a community it would be amazing to come up with an effective alternative if possible!

The end goal here is the following:
To provide a sister pack to the Cut-Out Faces Megapack that automatically replaces the in game 3D generated newgen/regen faces with a collection of high quality 250x250 pixel cut out images.

Above is a link to a small pack of about 850 cut out images, sorted into folders for the following different ethnicities: African/Caribbean, Asian (Central), East Asian (China/Japan), Mediterranean/Hispanic, Mixed Race (Black/White), North African/Middle Eastern, Northern European, Pacific Islander and South East Asian. These make up the bulk of the ethnicity categories from the official game database.

These images are mostly taken from US college sports portraits, futsal, handball, esports and other lesser known sports, so no chance of finding LeBron James or anyone well known from NBA/NFL appearing as your in game wonderkid! At the moment I still have about 6100 images stored and still to be cut and still have a lot more sources images to sort through and save from US college sports websites, so this is where the most help is required - more on that below.

For the time being, while there is no way of automatically replacing the in game 3D faces, this megapack could be used as either:
  • A database from which you can choose individual images and assign manually to chosen newgens, or
  • A system like that mentioned in this post where newgen faces are replaced automatically but with no discerning by ethnicity.
Here's how you can help!
  • Cutters - If you want to help produce cut outs to add to this future megapack, great! Let me know here or by PM and I can send over however many images you would like to cut.
  • Image Finders - The more the better really. As long as the image is a high quality portrait, not of a professional footballer that already exists in game (so essentially from other sports) and is not recognisable (so preferably not from top level American Football, Basketball, Rugby etc) then it would be perfect, so anyone willing to collect source images for others to cut or knows where to find good quality source images would be of immense help. Source images for Asian and Pacific Islander would be particularly useful.
  • Image Croppers - remove.bg is a fantastic tool and is perfect to get as many images cut as quickly as possible. If you are not a cutter yourself but still want to help, you can do so by cropping images already collected to include just the head and shoulders and put them through remove.bg - this drastically reduces the work required from a cutter who as this point just needs to re-scale and tidy the image!
  • Football Manager/coding experts? - If anyone has ideas as to a way of coding/assigning images from a folder to match a certain ethnicity in game then that would be a massive step forward - as far as I'm aware there are no current solutions to this and I wouldn't know where to start myself, so any expertise or ideas on this would be hugely appreciated.
If you want to help or have any questions, leave a comment here or send me a PM!
#526470 Facepacks Release thread - NO REQUESTS
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#526197 Dartford [Old Request]
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@mons This can be rejected
#526183 Facepacks Release thread - NO REQUESTS
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#525924 Crystal Palace Youth and Staff [Old Request Response]
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@mons FYI, this one has been missed from the latest update
#525156 Facepacks Release thread - NO REQUESTS
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#524090 Wayne Rooney
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Not shag grannies?

That went up the gears quicker than I anticipated
#524069 Wayne Rooney
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Player, coach, role model, now journalist - anything this man can't do?
#523375 Facepacks Release thread - NO REQUESTS
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