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Anyone still going to tell me that Rafa is a good manager and the Torres is a good player?
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 21:36 PM
Chelsea confirm they have offered £7m + Fernando Torres for Demba Ba - however Newcastle have rejected as they only want the £7m.


Wouldn't be surprised... Especially after this game, if they asked for extra money for them to take Torres off our hands.
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3 stars! Or just whatever Cagliari and Club Brugge are.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 17:31 PM
We'll just play 2 up top its not exactly rocket science Suarez never stays up the middle anyway so Sturridge will be able to stay there and Suarez will be the one who roams.


Changing from one striker to two always seemed like a big deal to me. Always wanted us to try it but we haven't in a long time. :\

It could work, just depends if he can start being a team player.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 17:28 PM
Yes but not much less and we need another striker now so why would waiting till the summer be of any benefit


My guess is it would be a lot less. Anyways, we are both guessing so no point arguing about that.

And Sturridge is a good player but I can't see him doing well at Liverpool, for the exact same reason he didn't do well at Chelsea. With Suarez (Liverpool's Torres [just much better]) he won't get to much time in the middle and he isn't great on the wing because he isn't a team player. I could be wrong and find out Liverpool are changing something.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 17:22 PM
It wouldn't have been free though.


But less than £12 million.
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I am down for this. Only problem is that I live in Israel and the connection isn't the best with UK guys.
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By Sears | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 16:17 PM
I'm not sure if I'm so keen on Sturridge. He's young, speedy, decent finisher, but his performances also seems to be inconsistent. And I don't like us buying young English talent, we squandered far too much on Henderson and Carroll, but then again we were desperate for another attacking player so Sturridge fits the bill.

Anyone know how much the deal was?


Most reports suggest it was £12 million. Quite a lot for a player that you could have got for free in the summer.
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By Deano | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 15:53 PM
You have to sign 24hours before that to be eligible to play iirc.


Wrong quote.
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By rossiheslopi | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 15:29 PM
Knowing our luck, Ba's knee would probably blow up the second he signed, I'm happy with Sturridge


Sturridge only recovered from an injury a week ago or so if I am not mistaken.

Also, if we made profit off this (Ba in, Sturridge out) I am not too concerned. Hopefully Ferreira is next. Can't stand when Rafa brings him on, better for his to leave
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By Dutton | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 16:09 PM
We're hardly arch rivals, and I'm sure he'd stay at Chelsea if they were prepared to give him a new contract. It wouldn't be as if he's turning down Chelsea to come to us, ala Van Persie.

Can't see it happening anyway.


You are probably one of our biggest, if not the biggest. Whenever we play you it feels different to any other game against any of the top teams (Arsenal, Spurs, City, Everton, Liverpool...).

I don't understand why we are letting him go. He is already on 6 goals this season and probably on the way to a ninth consecutive season with over ten goals in the league. I think he should stay here.
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For the same reason Ferdinand wouldn't move to Chelsea (if the whole Terry thing never happened).
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By Portaloo | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 14:02 PM
Will Lampard be that daft?
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By Verse | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 06:56 AM
You find more strikers in the world who kick their 10-15 a season than those who get 30+ regularly, I assure you. Any striker who has consistently kicked 30+ a season is going to cost you ridiculous amounts of money, provided their not already at a top club as it is. Signing two strikers who can get you 10-15 goals a season to work with Torres is going to be both cheaper and also less riskier.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love either a Falcao or Cavani at Chelsea, both are top strikers. But I'd also be just as happy to see the club keep Torres and add some genuine competitive depth, which is lacking. Chelsea's track record on buying expensive strikers isn't good, so it makes just as much sense get two good players for the price of one superstar.

Chelsea were spoiled to have a player like Drogba, who was near on the complete striker.


But if you get two strikers that can get 10-15, they wouldn't want to be played as a substitute... And we can't go with a 3 striker formation not with the players we have now and the players that we have. Can you really drop two of Mata, Oscar or Hazard? Not really. And last year proved that Torres can't handle competition. Now he has no competition, he doesn't have to play at his best because he is our only striker. But he didn't start very well and I don't believe that if we bring Ba now and when Lukaku comes back next season, that Torres will be able to do much.

Sadly, he just isn't the player we need. I admitted it a long time ago and I personally think we should have got rid of him last year. He was destroyed in 2010 and sadly he will never be back. Again, it was always hard for me to like Torres, just like it is hard for me to like Benitez. Both came from Liverpool and both had shit starts to their Chelsea career (Rafa got the hang of it faster). I will never feel like I am 100% behind Torres but he has to prove himself first. If he scores over 15, 20 goals, let him stay, maybe he will be able to keep that form... Sadly, I can't see it happening and I have a feeling that if Lampard doesn't leave in January, Torres, yet again, will score less goals than him in the league.

By jumberto | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 12:23 PM
Chelsea have only played 19 league games.

I know you don't like him but at least beat him with facts.


True, I forgot that we are one game behind! Steal, doesn't make it that much better.
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By Verse | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 23:37 PM
Ba would be an improvement on Kalou, but I understand what you're saying. It's all about depth really.

Torres could well kick 20+ goals this season and people will still want him out, which isn't something you don't see or hear of often. But if Chelsea can add another striker or two who can kick 10-15 themselves, to compliment Torres, then that's going to be far more valuable than spending a ridiculous amount on a single striker, who's also no sure thing either.


But you rarely find these players that can easily score 15 goals a season for cheap. Sure, Torres only needs 13 goals to get to 20 but we are coming into the 21st game and he has 7 goals. So if it keeps like this, he should have around 14. Of course it doesn't work like but I can't see him scoring 13 goals in 17 games, because of the fact that if he does manage to score one goal, he usually fails to score another.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 20:40 PM
They wouldn't sell Falcao cause they need the money then resign Torres, even if he was part of the deal his wages would be massive.


True, but they would probably 'only' be around Falcao so they still make some sort of profit.

Anyways, we need a target man sort of player. We need someone that can control the ball anywhere on the pitch and score. Torres always drifts wide and usually loses control of the ball when he is in the middle (look at the ball he got form Luiz yesterday)... We need someone to be where a striker is supposed to be.

Bringing Lukaku back now is stupid because he is doing alright at WBA.
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 20:25 PM
There's not a chance in hell you'll sign either in January.


Again, you never know. Atletico need the money, so they might want to sell him. Wouldn't even mind letting Torres go if it means we get Falcao for cheaper.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 19:33 PM
He wont spend 40/50 million on a player for risk of him flopping, he'll buy someone who can support Torres rather than someone like Falcao/Cavani who are quite simular players.


Similar to each other, yes. Similar to Torres, no chance.
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Score more. Rooney isn't the only striker at United, barely plays as a striker anymore! So 7 goals is fair in my opinion.

Cazorla and Mata are midfielders so it already makes it worse.

Aguero and Tevez are both part of a 4 striker team. They either play together, with a different striker next to one of them and sometimes even them two plus another striker. So 7 goals each when they are sharing them with at least one more striker is also good.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 18:39 PM
You really think Roman is going to shell out for either of them?


1. You never know what Roman is planning.
2. He has to. I am pretty sure he has realised by now that you can't solely trust Torres.
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The facts are right in front of us
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 15:24 PM
Just out of interest who would you want instead then?


Falcao, Cavani. We need someone big. When Cisse moved to Newcastle he stole the spotlight and Ba was terrible, barely scored. Don't think we should take the risk.
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Torres with a goal every 231 minutes...
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I don't want Ba. As much as I love him, we could do better (and we need to).
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By Deano | Permalink | On 30 December 2012 - 15:55 PM
I feel fucking sick. I'd rather we play utter fucking shit and get beat 5-0 than lose like that.

Rafa in now is it? Fucking hate Chelsea fans, fucking bellends the lot of them.


I still don't like him.
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By om4ever | Permalink | On 27 December 2012 - 20:15 PM
I hate Goodison Park so much.

Last time Chelsea won there it took the best 3 goal combination you'll ever see


Ah, I remember that game! Was it really the last time we won there?!

Anyways, I call a draw.
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By SpinSwimScream | Permalink | On 24 December 2012 - 15:10 PM
aren't Chelsea drastically short on strikers too though? Im assuming they'll recall Lukaku in Jan then? or maybe try get Falcao in, or Hulk seens as the troubles he is in at Zenit?

Torres doesnt exactly have the best injury record, so if i were a Chelsea fan I wouldnt wanna just have him for the rest of the season, regardless of the 800 attacking mids you have behind him


Even if we don't sell Sturridge, I think we will bring a new striker in. Sturridge isn't used much as a ST, I just don't think he will work there with our new playing style. Lukaku will probably stay at West Brom because if he does come back he won't play as much. Falcao seems like the ideal move, especially with Atletico needing the money. But who knows, January will be a long month for us Chelsea fans, I am calling a last minute transfer, whoever it may be.
#36093 Susie Prediction League 2013/14 Discussion
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Wednesday 26 December
15:00 Everton v. Wigan Athletic 3-0
15:00 Fulham v. Southampton 1-0
15:00 Manchester United v. Newcastle United 2-1
15:00 Norwich City v. Chelsea 1-4
15:00 Queens Park Rangers v. West Bromwich Albion 0-1
15:00 Reading v. Swansea City 1-2
15:00 Sunderland v. Manchester City 1-2
17:30 Aston Villa v. Tottenham Hotspur 0-3
19:45 Stoke City v. Liverpool 0-0

Saturday 29 December
12:45 Sunderland v. Tottenham Hotspur 0-2
15:00 Aston Villa v. Wigan Athletic 1-1
15:00 Fulham v. Swansea City 0-0
15:00 Manchester United v. West Bromwich Albion 3-0
15:00 Norwich City v. Manchester City 0-5
15:00 Reading v. West Ham United 0-2
15:00 Stoke City v. Southampton 2-0
17:30 Arsenal v. Newcastle United 1-1

Sunday 30 December
13:30 Everton v. Chelsea 2-1
16:00 Queens Park Rangers v. Liverpool 0-1

Tuesday 1 January
12:45 West Bromwich Albion v. Fulham 2-2
15:00 Manchester City v. Stoke City 1-0
15:00 Swansea City v. Aston Villa 2-0
15:00 Tottenham Hotspur v. Reading 4-0
15:00 West Ham United v. Norwich City 1-1
15:00 Wigan Athletic v. Manchester United 0-3
17:30 Southampton v. Arsenal 0-1

Wednesday 2 January
19:45 Chelsea v. Queens Park Rangers 3-0
19:45 Liverpool v. Sunderland 2-2
20:00 Newcastle United v. Everton 4-4
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 23 December 2012 - 19:49 PM
Pray for RVP.