I'll say this again. We stood back for a good while now, while Hamas kept firing missiles at us. We couldn't wait longer so we attacked. Last time we did this it kept them quite (they still launched missile attacks but a lot less) for a couple of years. This time we are going in harder and hopefully it will keep them silenced.

Hamas are hiding their ammo supplies and leaders where other citizens are, just so they can say "20 kids killed" and so on. Not only that, but the media are falling for their lying. Will post more about that after school.

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By Sears | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:05 PM

Are you not fearful of being bombed or even killed, or do you live far enough away from the areas Palestine are bombing? I'd be shit scared if we and the North started firing missiles at each other!

I am fearful, yes. Not because of Palestine but because of Lebanon. I don't think that Palestine can get much further than Tel Aviv. In the Second Lebanon war missiles did actually fall very close to my house. When I was at my cousins' house in 2006 a missile dropped about 500 meters from their house. So far Lebanon are keeping quite so I don't think anything should happen in the north for a while.

By Obtuse | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:07 PM

That is actually right as nobody would know about the genocide your Government is committing on a daily basis. How dare Hamas want to fight back after decades of aggression!

It must be hard to be an Israeli citizen though with your Government and main media lying to you so blatantly. I know a few from both sides who have managed to escape the region and none agree with the way your Government is.

Know as in talked to, personally?

By Obtuse | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:09 PM

Do you think fighter jets are fair given the fact that Palestine has no army per se?

Yes.

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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:03 PM

Put your Jerusalem Post down and read some proper journalism before you get drafted into killing even more innocent women and children.

Netanyahu has said he will agree to a ceasefire if Hamas will agree to stop firing rockets from Gaza. Hilarious really considering the naval bombardment of Gaza is what triggered this particular standoff.

Also:

Israel and Hamas exchange threats over Twitter. 2012, everybody. twitter.com/AlexYudelson/s…
— Alex Yudelson (@AlexYudelson) November 14, 2012

Funny how they tell Hamas to disappear when bombing isn't it. Clearly wanting extra damage as well.

Oh and:

Read Hebrew? Follow @noamr & learn how Israeli gov't spits & shits on the memory of the Holocaust by steering the country in that direction
— David Sheen (@davidsheen) November 17, 2012

If you read what I said, you would have clearly seen the part where I was asking you to look at it from both points of view. No, we don't bomb them on daily basis. Just read about how many missiles they fired at us in the past month. Yes, that is what started this whole thing. Even when it is quite, they still bomb us.

That twitter thing is ridiculous. Not sure if that is a real IDF account and I doubt it, but if it is, I stand corrected! It is true though, they shouldn't be showing their faces around. We killed one of the Hamas leaders a couple of days ago, blew up his car. Is that bad? He is threatening our country on daily bases.

The major difference is that they are trying to get the innocent killed. We are trying to make it harder for them.

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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:02 PM

Just curious. Things must be pretty frantic over there right now?

Ya, I live in the North but news keep on reporting about where the missiles hit and all that.

Also live about 30 minutes from one of the biggest Air Force bases in Israel so all you hear is the constant sound of fighter jets flying lower than usual.

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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 22:01 PM

Do you live in Israel?

Yup, why?

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By Vercoe | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 21:56 PM

No you don't...

Coincidentally I realised the 21st is the date I break up from work for Christmas either way.

Yes, I do. Unless the world ends in the morning and then I will be safe.

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By Franck | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 21:54 PM

I guess then either the rockets Hamas are firing are a whole lot larger than I picture them or the Israeli missile-defence system is a whole lot more advanced than anything that was around a few years ago was.

It is very advanced. Fairly new as well. Can't exactly tell you when the first ones were put down but today a fifth was given to the IDF. Basically the computer sees the rocket, calculates its path and launches two rockets to blow it up (obviously, only one for blowing it up and the other to make sure they don't miss). Today 4 missiles were shot down using it.

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Maths test on this day!

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By Franck | Permalink | On 17 November 2012 - 19:54 PM

The type of rockets Hamas are firing are not the ones you shoot down with a missile-defence system.

Those are exactly the sort of missiles we are shooting down daily. Many were already taken down.

We went in and attacked because that is the only way to stop them from firing missiles at us. Last time we went in and did what we did it worked, until they started firing a mass amount of missiles at us. We don't usually attack them but when we do we do it well and we do what has to be done. We kill the people from the Hamas, we destroy ammo supplies. Sadly, they keep putting the innocent on top of those places.

Hundreds of missiles have been fired at us every day for a good while now, so yes, we do have the right to defend ourselves. We have people that get killed, just a lot less because we are ready for these kind of things.

Most of us see this from only one point of view. Being an Israeli, it is hard for me to defend Palestine, especially when I keep hearing about missile attacks. So why don't you guys try and look at it from different perspectives? Both sides are suffering but if the Hamas kept quite, none of this would have happened.

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By chokosc | Permalink | On 15 November 2012 - 17:55 PM

Good week for me! Hopefully this one will be just as good *pray*

Saturday 17 November
12:45 Arsenal v. Tottenham Hotspur 2-2
15:00 Liverpool v. Wigan Athletic 2-0
15:00 Manchester City v. Aston Villa 2-1
15:00 Newcastle United v. Swansea City 1-1
15:00 Queens Park Rangers v. Southampton 0-0
15:00 Reading v. Everton 0-4
15:00 West Bromwich Albion v. Chelsea 1-3
17:30 Norwich City v. Manchester United 1-3

Sunday 18 November
16:00 Fulham v. Sunderland 2-1

Monday 19 November
20:00 West Ham United v. Stoke City 0-0

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We had a penalty not given to us in the second half but I won't complain about that. Why? Because we have been shit. No ability to finish off our chances, Torres is fucking useless and Sturridge is no more than a selfish cunt. Luiz doesn't make things better with his inability to defend. Replace those three and you already have yourself a better team. Now, Sell the other useless cunt called Mikel. He can't hold play, can barely pass can't shoot. He is just as good as putting a pole in the center of the field.

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Good week for me! Hopefully this one will be just as good *pray*

Saturday 17 November
12:45 Arsenal v. Tottenham Hotspur 2-2
15:00 Liverpool v. Wigan Athletic 2-0
15:00 Manchester City v. Aston Villa 2-1
15:00 Newcastle United v. Swansea City 1-1
15:00 Queens Park Rangers v. Southampton 0-0
15:00 Reading v. Everton 0-4
15:00 West Bromwich Albion v. Chelsea 1-3
17:30 Norwich City v. Manchester United 1-3

Sunday 18 November
16:00 Fulham v. Sunderland 2-1

Monday 19 November
20:00 West Ham United v. Stoke City 0-0

#22455 Puskas Award 2012

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Hassli.

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10 Nov 2012 19:22:21

Fucks sake... Out of 11 games, 9 were comebacks for United.

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Amazing!

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By chokosc | Permalink | On 08 November 2012 - 18:15 PM

Saturday 10 November
15:00 Arsenal v. Fulham 3-0
15:00 Everton v. Sunderland 2-1
15:00 Reading v. Norwich City 1-1
15:00 Southampton v. Swansea City 0-3
15:00 Stoke City v. Queens Park Rangers 0-0
15:00 Wigan Athletic v. West Bromwich Albion 1-2
17:30 Aston Villa v. Manchester United 0-4

Sunday 11 November
13:30 Manchester City v. Tottenham Hotspur 1-2
15:00 Newcastle United v. West Ham United 3-2
16:00 Chelsea v. Liverpool 2-1

Decent week so far for my standards

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Saturday 10 November
15:00 Arsenal v. Fulham 3-0
15:00 Everton v. Sunderland 2-1
15:00 Reading v. Norwich City 1-1
15:00 Southampton v. Swansea City 0-3
15:00 Stoke City v. Queens Park Rangers 0-0
15:00 Wigan Athletic v. West Bromwich Albion 1-2
17:30 Aston Villa v. Manchester United 0-4

Sunday 11 November
13:30 Manchester City v. Tottenham Hotspur 1-2
15:00 Newcastle United v. West Ham United 3-2
16:00 Chelsea v. Liverpool 2-1

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By Tommo. | Permalink | On 07 November 2012 - 22:04 PM

If your a proper fan though you follow the team through the good and bad results. If you not gunna watch us when we are bad thats why people call chelsea fans glory hunters

I'll watch it no matter what. I couldn't get myself out of the football hype every weekend, especially if we are playing.

By Verse | Permalink | On 07 November 2012 - 22:26 PM

There's nothing wrong with how RDM goes about his substitutions. The side's issue is keeping clean sheets, not in attack. So making attacking subs isn't a must when scoring as the side has been. If the defence were more solid and organised then there wouldn't be an issue.

As for Sturridge, I have no issue with him being benched. Torres might not score as regularly but his team play and combination with the 3 behind him is far more valuable to the side and it's style. Sturridge offers none of that and is far too much of an individualist. While talented, he's not good enough to be leading the attack. Even if he does score more himself than Torres, the team play will suffer in the process.

I am not talking about every game, but today his decisions were terrible. We had to get the win but we had no one to score.The first two goals were down to luck and bad decisions from the keeper. That doesn't really show how great we were attacking. Defending wise we are also pretty shocking lately. We have been conceding the exact same goals in the last 4 games, yet nothing has changed.

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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 07 November 2012 - 21:52 PM

What a shit fan you are.

Shit fan? How so? I am saying the truth. We were shocking in the last three games (taking out the League Cup) and we didn't exactly deserve the win, did we? And what is wrong about me saying that I think the way DiMa uses his substitution is wrong and it almost hurt us badly today? I am a realist, I can't always back my team, especially not after today.

And if you are saying that because of Torres, well, I don't think that 1 goal in 4 CL is quite enough for him to be starting...

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We were terrible. Didn't even deserve a draw. DiMa is starting to get on my nerves. His first substitution was in the 80th minute when, even though we did nothing for 80 minutes, and then he brings Sturridge on for 3 minutes... What the hell?

If Torres starts against Liverpool, I am not sure I'll watch it.

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Wasn't that clear in my opinion. Balotelli pulled the defender's shirt first and both were pulling each others' shirts when he went down.

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04 Nov 2012 13:43:20

I know it is a human mistake. Everything I said about United paying them, Referees United and all that was just the heat of the moment...

Although I am still half and half to whether there should be replays.

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By jumberto | Permalink | On 03 November 2012 - 23:05 PM

LOL

If Di Matteo hadn't played most of your first team midweek you probably would've won today.

I know... 70% of the blame is us. He needs to learn how to rotate the team. Something similar to what he did last year at the end of the season...

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By Crane | Permalink | On 02 November 2012 - 18:32 PM

So glad this has reached the second page and no one has mentioned Green Street.

Oh wait, Cocksock has. Typical.

Uh, do I even need to be sorry about that? I liked the movie, you didn't, different tastes. Didn't even watch more than 3 football movies, and I only remember two, and those are the two Green Streets...

By Tommo. | Permalink | On 02 November 2012 - 18:34 PM

Fucking Cocksock

Do I know you?

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Urgh, anyone watched the Chelsea game? Had to go somewhere so missed it! This is the point where I get mad that we had points stolen against United...

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I actually got 0 outcomes right!