There are loads of players that play for two teams in the same city, Hargreaves wanted the money, Man City wanted a defensive midfielder and Man Utd didn't give a fuck as they knew he was a crock.

I don't see the problem.

Not only is that in the wrong thread but you've also entirely missed the point.

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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 22:38 PM

Strictly speaking they can. Prices in the UK are not set in stone regardless of what is advertised.

Do you haggle when you go to the supermarket?

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By SpinSwimScream | Permalink | On 24 July 2013 - 00:03 AM

I think there is a possibility you may be reading a bit too much into everything. I just see it as a team trying to fill a gap with a very cheap option, the injury factor doesnt mean as much risk as it used to as theres plenty of pay as you play deals going about so it was worth a punt by them to bring Hargreaves in. We did essentially the same thing with Michael Owen although obviously he wasnt as crocked as Hargreaves

That's essentially what I was getting at.

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By Ninja | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 20:00 PM

I'd have thought the first point you'd look at for a signing was whether a player could actually play, Owen Hargreaves quite obviously couldn't and everyone except City knew it.

What I'm arguing is that the board sanctioned the transfer because Mancini wanted a defensive midfielder and for whatever reason (be it based on the advice of the medical staff, coaching staff or just plain incompetence) they believed Hargreaves was up to the job.

By Ninja | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 20:00 PM

You have to be aware that City are going global, part of City's attraction in markets where we are big is by not being us, by being our rivals and by attempting to eclipse us. It's, according to some (that I'm not sure I buy), the reason you were chosen full stop to be taken over. Fanning that narrative serves your attempts at becoming a global merchandising machine that will ultimately be self sufficient

Frankly, anybody who thinks that the reason we were bought was because of United's presence is an idiot. No doubt it played a part, after all the rivalry makes for a far more interesting narrative but despite what you seem to believe City aren't just attempting to ride to glory on United's coat-tails. In the early days of the takeover it served a very useful purpose (the Tévez billboard serving as a good example. That created invaluable exposure) but even at his peak Hargreaves wouldn't be prime candidate for that sort of marketing, he just didn't have the pull. So unless you think our PR people are total amateurs, the idea that he would be used to try and get one over United despite being years (and a litany of injuries) past his peak is ridiculous.

Besides, useful as that sort of stunt was, City have moved far past the need for it. The club has a solid long-term plan that is entirely independent of United and that sort of thing is unnecessary and goes against the ethos of the three main executives at the club (Txiki, Soriano, Khaldoon).

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By Ninja | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 19:21 PM

Well it wasn't, unless you believe that the club petty enough to put up the 'Welcome to Manchester' actually had a footballing reason for signing a perma-crock who no other club would touch with a bargepole.

They're entirely different cases. Why the fuck would they try and sign Owen Hargreaves to get one over United? It's utterly ludicrous. The Hargreaves signing was a quiet, cheap deal done without any real fanfare ( on deadline day, as I recall) largely to placate Mancini's persistent demands for an expensive defensive midfielder - which the board didn't want to fund - the only real comparison to Tévez (a loud, protracted, expensive deal) is that they were both signed from United.

That said you're sort of right. It was done as much for political reasons as for footballing reasons.

By Slashman X | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 19:49 PM

Ninja is getting more ridiculous with each passing day

He's never been great when it comes to City, he seems to be getting worse though.

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By Esprit Vanilla | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 18:18 PM

He has played only in Germany so you can't be sure of that.

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By Ninja | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 16:47 PM

He's just a crock who will never get another Premiership gig, City only wanted him to appear to get one over on us, but we all know how that ended.

Hilarious but inaccurate. It was a token gesture signing to give Bobby Manc a defensive-midfielder without splashing the cash.

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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 15:38 PM

Winner!

'Kone. A' was what he had at Wigan I think, but I don't think the full stop should be there

Yeah, I assumed that was the case. It just looks like a poor attempt at spelling it phonetically.

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They've spelt Deulofeu wrong.

'Kone. A' also looks weird but I have no idea if that's actually an error.

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Getting it whilst sleeping on your stomach is fucking terrifying.

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By Jay. | Permalink | On 23 July 2013 - 13:37 PM

Isn't he like very tall? If so i can't see Adebayor staying.. him and Adebayor are too similar, just Soldado can score.

No, he's only 5' 10". He's not great in the air either (from what I know of him).

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It's a fucking ridiculous idea.

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No, he doesn't.

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By Number 1 | Permalink | On 20 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

I thought they'd signed Julio Cesar?

They pulled out 'cos he was taking too long over the contract.

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I hadn't realised he'd scored twice. That's probably him done for the season.

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They've just bought Rafael Cabral too. They clearly want an older 'keeper around to help him adapt.

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By Ninja | Permalink | On 19 July 2013 - 14:21 PM

By all accounts a terrific keeper, great bloke and an absolute legend.

His story about how he got in to English football in the first place is as great as that of him playing with a broken neck.

RIP

On that note his biography (by Catrine Clay) is well worth a read. Eventful would be putting it lightly.