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Wilfried Zaha, £15m? If that's the case, then Sean Scannell must be worth more than the entire national GDP of China.

So satisfying to get one over Crystal Palace. Timewasted from the off. Seven times the physio was on in the first half for their players. They came for a draw, and only attacked after we scored a deserved goal. We outfought them, dominated the first hour and a bit, and hung on for a deserved three points. Nice to see that some teams don't know how to lose with grace, though - Holloway's a wanker.
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Couldn't disagree more. Whilst I understand the need for them for the Premier League to be properly sustainable, I can't help but think that they give clubs advantages that they don't deserve, and that the proper solution is to curtail money at the top. The added advantage of that would be that clubs wouldn't need to spend way beyond their means to compete, either, meaning a Portsmouth situation would be unlikely.
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I think what I'm really trying to say is that the disparity between those in the Premier League and those who aren't is best illustrated by the Championship. If a club comes down they get significant financial support for their failure rather than having to cut cloth accordingly, whereas clubs who were successful the previous season start with a massive financial disadvantage which takes a period of years to resolve itself.

You're right, in that Bolton, Blackburn, etc, will see their big stars leave over the next season or so if they don't go up, and we'll start to see them come into line with developing clubs like Town and Charlton. But we'll continue to see this season on season.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 24 January 2013 - 21:36 PM
I'm not really sure what this article is trying to say? Bigger clubs spend more than little clubs seems to be the conclusion.

Bolton, Blackburn and Birmingham, will be burdened with the likes of Zigic on huge wages, who they can't get rid off, and is busing up funds needed to rebuild the team.

But are those three names 'bigger' clubs in terms of regular financial income than such as Town and Charlton? Take the parachute payments and mad Indians out of the equation, and all five sides are in the 13,000-17,000 bracket in terms of attendance and will, therefore, have similar incomes assuming similar ticket prices, merchandising, etc - and you can even throw in TV money. Yet three are still spending £40m+ on wages a year, while the other two are sub-£10m. What the article does show is the massive disparity between sides who have just come down from the Premier League and those who have just gone up, even though there's no real difference in the 'size' of the clubs.
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All of it, in terms of transfer outlay. Haven't bought a single player since we sold Rhodes, but have instead brought in Beckford, Danns, Hammill, and Simon Church on loan. The latter two have left already. It means we're very light for Saturday, with 10 players potentially out. We need to bring players in, and quickly.

I'm more surprised at the timing - if I'd have been doing the sacking, he'd have been gone first thing on Monday morning and given Mark Lillis and Steve Eyre the week to work with the team. But 12 without a win tells its own story. We've been unlucky in more than one of those, granted, but we've capitulated too readily in recent weeks and looked like getting dragged into the dogfight.
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Surprised at the timing, but not at the decision. I thought he'd have Saturday and a couple more games, but we really do need to bring some players in over the next week.

Bring back the two GMs!
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http://blogs.examiner.co.uk/oneupfrontathuddersfieldtown/2013/01/the-cost-of-waging-war-on-the.html

An interesting analysis of the Championship's wage structuring. From a Town POV, but interesting nonetheless.
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No spine. First was from a penalty most people have said came from a foul outside the box, but there was no appeal, no protest, no nothing. Heads dropped, and we just let them win. Go on and lose 1-0 to a questionable penalty, I can criticise the ref, but he's got nothing to do with the capitulation and lack of pride. Grayson has to hold his hands up and say the lack of passion is his fault.
#44547 FA Cup Thread 2012/13
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By Crane | Permalink | On 17 January 2013 - 16:06 PM
This.

Seconded.
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Initial fee was £150k! Shows how much Roy Keane doesn't know about football.

Good point in the end today. Kept going to the end and got a brilliant goal. Crowd was absolutely shocking, every misplaced pass got moaned at. The three fucktards sat opposite me spent the whole game going on at Scannell, when he was probably our best player. Yeah, he does run up blind alleys at times, but he committed people, had the defence dropping off to deal with him, and provided our best creative outlet. But he got bawled and moaned at because he 'didn't get down the wing' by people who aren't intelligent enough to string together a coherent sentence. I really hate those morons. Next time they start going on at Scannell they'll be getting told what a modern winger is and why they should shut the fuck up.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 11 January 2013 - 21:32 PM
It's unlikely he'll spend much more of his career at a Championship/ League 1 level though. If/ when he becomes a Premier League player I'm sure his goals to game ratio will drop off significantly.

Maybe, but he's carried on scoring despite having had about 8 managers in the past 12 months.
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Jordan Rhodes stat: 22 years old, and already over 120 goals for club and country. At this rate, if he plays until he's 33, he'll score 400 career goals. And what's that, 16 this season? (Just realised tonight's goal is his 125th career goal in 224 games. That is one heck of a strike-rate.)
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I'd say most strikers have tried to get on the end of a cross, realised they're not getting there, and extended a hand to try to divert the ball into the net at some point in their careers. I've seen it dozens of times - Shearer, Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler (who should be otherwise unimpeachable given his actions in that Liverpool-Arsenal game and saying he wasn't touched when he was awarded a penalty), Rickie Lambert, Grant Holt, any number of lower-league strikers including Town players. 99% of the time, the ref spots it and it's a non-issue. When the ref doesn't spot it, it becomes an issue, because although it's commonplace and understandable, it's still cheating.

As it's Suarez, everyone's making a big fuss of it. If this was his only offence, no one would bat an eyelid. It's probably not deliberate, but he does get a massive advantage from inadvertent use of his hand, so I'd personally disallow it for handball. But with his previous record, people have got all worked up over it, when they probably shouldn't have. It's an injustice on Mansfield, but it's not the big story it's being made out to be.
#40637 FA Cup Thread 2012/13
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Good news: we're at home. Bad news: we've played this lot twice already this season, and lost 2-0 and 6-1. So it'll be a low crowd, we'll lose, and it's not against anyone interesting.
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Guaranteed that we'll get Oldham away.

Again.
#40193 The Lower League Thread
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Jeremy Helan, who got booked twice against us for Sheffield Wednesday the other week and didn't get sent off, is serving his ban today despite being cup-tied as he played for Shrewsbury in the Cup earlier this season. He played on New Year's Day as the appeal against Antonio's booking (which was transferred to him) hadn't been heard. He's available for their next League game. I can't be the only one shaking my head at how unfair that seems.

Other bizarre stuff, who's seen the Watford sub-loaning going on? How's that allowed?
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Note to Town: turn up against Leicester in future before we're 5-0 down.
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By NiceLad | Permalink | On 30 December 2012 - 12:57 PM
The game will not be replayed, the result should and will stand, it's a referee error, they happen in every game, if it was to be replayed it'd open every game of football to be replayed because of referee errors. I don't blame you for being annoyed any fan would be, but we'd beat you in a replay anyway and the first booking wasn't even a dive

The PGMOL are investigating referee Mick Russell and he'll be delt with, the FA will no doubt turn a blind eye to it, especially as they let this stand.

The video sums up the FA, really. Ref invents goal, naff all done. Replay certainly should have been arranged in that instance.

The difference between the 99% of referee errors and this is that with most refereeing mistakes it's a matter of interpretation. This isn't a matter of interpretation, as a player received two yellow cards and wasn't dismissed - there's no interpretation there, the law of the game is absolute. Compare that to such as the Anthony Gerrard red card against Palace, which the referee interpreted - wrongly, as it happens, with the FA upholding our appeal - that the tackle was dangerous. Had he scored a late winner then what would happen? He shouldn't have been on the pitch.

And we'll beg to differ on the first yellow. I thought at the time it was a blatant dive, and the replays I've seen suggest to me I'm right - not least because ten of your players don't appeal and only Helan seems surprised by the yellow card. Thought at the time he might have been hard done to on the second, though, as from the far side it looked like he took the ball.

On the replay front - no thanks, to be quite honest. Sat through it once, don't want to go through it again, kindest thing that could be said about either side is that they put in the effort. Both sides had chances to win it, but neither really deserved it.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 29 December 2012 - 15:56 PM
Every week your misanthropic and spontaneous vitriol amuses us all. Keep doing what you're doing.

Think in context that's a reasonable statement. Bearing in mind that the officials' attention was drawn to the two yellow cards, and they ignored it, only to later apologise for the error, their professionalism and decision-making needs to be placed under severe scrutiny.

Wednesday should be docked their point for their part in this farce, though. Not fair on anyone if they're allowed to keep it, just as it would be unfair to award Town all 3 points or to order a replay which may result in Town defeat. Why should the misleading party get any profit? Sadly, I think no action will be taken other than to enforce a 1-match ban for the player concerned and the referee to be rested for a few weeks.
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Shocking officials. Set of incompetent, unprofessional, feckless morons. Should be sacked. The game should either be awarded to us as a 1-0 win, or replayed from the 35th minute, with Wednesday's team selection tied (injuries permitting) to the other 10 who played.

He was awful all game. Helan got two of ours booked after he should have walked, nearly scored a last-minute winner, and injured Jack Hunt. It affected the outcome. Awful.
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By BR. | Permalink | On 28 December 2012 - 00:53 AM
Anyway, if this happens then I'd definitely consider not going until the lot of them f*ck off - and I can't remember the last home game I missed:

Look at the f*cking state.

If that happens then there's hope for my managerial career yet. Might even apply myself. Get Rochina between the lines, don't bother with wingers (attacking full-backs ftw), get supply-line to Jordan Rhodes*. Sorted.

But in all seriousness, that's insane. I'm all for giving young coaches a start in the game, but that's just ridiculous. May as well appoint Danny Murphy player-manager and make Mr Blobby and Roland Rat his assistants. And wasn't Kevin McDonald part of the Allardyce setup?

* - provided I don't sell him back to Town, that is.
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Do you think Berg's doing the managing, or is Singh pulling the strings behind the scenes, dictating team selection and tactics? Because I can't see the side you've got struggling for any other reason. I honestly reckon Berg could be canny enough, but his hands may be tied.

Anyway, we were thoroughly dire today. First half was as bad as I've seen, and but for some highly entertaining 'finishing' could have gone into the break 3 or 4 down. In the second we were much improved (though that achievement was achieved after the second successful pass) and took the lead after a good little spell where we'd made a couple of chances for Beckford, who worked his socks off, with Gerrard powering in a header from a corner. We actually defended well until stoppage time, when two men decided to not bother even closing Ince down, and he crossed for Delfouneso to score with a flashy little backheel. Gutting to lose two points like that, but we wouldn't have deserved a win against a better Blackpool side.

Only gripe about the officials is the ref's baffling decisions on throw-ins. Other than that, absolutely fine game.
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Gerrard's red was an absolute abortion of a decision. We have to appeal.
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By Simply Cas | Permalink | On 17 December 2012 - 23:48 PM
Some good times when he was in first time around, not least outplaying Huddersfield and falling just short of Division 1 football. The football wasn't the most riveting, but that's not what this is, this is pure and utter results.

Correction: Marcus Stewart outplaying Huddersfield. Still want his alice band from that day.
#33741 English Premier League 2012/2013
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Hodgson, call up Anthony Pilkington. Now.

If you call up an overrated teenage fucknugget ahead of him again it'll just prove I know more about modern English football than you do.
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By A Little Bit Of Merson Magic | Permalink | On 15 December 2012 - 16:42 PM
He should get a medal.

Amazes me that no one's stuck one on Shawcross or Huth up to now. No doubt Pulis will be on MOTD tonight complaining about it, when what his players do week in, week out is just as bad.
#33634 The Lower League Thread
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6 without a win. Coincides with a mental run of very, very tough fixtures and a lack of personnel, but we were close to full strength today and Hull bossed us from start to finish. Of course, a lot of that's down to Hull being a very good team, even if their manager's a grade A tosser.
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How much did Bolton's squad cost?

I ask purely because I reckon their left-back alone cost more than our entire first XI today. Flashes of Premier League quality (particularly in the first 30 minutes of the second half), some nice football (and Kevin Davies), but absolutely no fight. We didn't have the quality, but we had the guts and determination and the spirit to keep going. Absolutely battered them after going a goal down. Two blinding saves from Bogdan in the dying moments, one just before Vaughan levelled, one in the sixth minute of a mysterious amount of stoppage time.

Belting football match, actually. Dominated the first half after a shaky start and should have been 2-0 up when Novak missed an open goal before Bolton bossed the second. Smithies saved a penalty (was a pen, but should have been our dead ball in the first place) in between two goals from Bolton before Town absolutely battered the Trotters. Vaughan's goal showed his Premier League class, firing in brilliantly after a lay off from Alan Lee, before Bogdan produced a sensational save to rescue a point for Bolton.
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And if you're Jewish in that situation? 90% of people won't be offended. 5% will be offended for the sake of being offended. 5% will be genuinely offended because it's them that the chant really degrades. Chanting 'yid' in that context isn't so far from saying 'nigger', if not practically identical - it's a racial epithet, and whether someone's offended or not it is racist.

Chants will always be offensive to a minority. Working in child abuse means I winced at the 'Jimmy Saville's fucked your kids' chant (though I might have done anyway, it was unbelievably moronic), for instance. But there's a line that shouldn't be crossed, and that line's crossed with every 'yid' chant. Fundamental difference between this and what Spurs fans chant.
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By Fantastic | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 14:30 PM
I have the pleasure of terriersmad telling me how Leeds robbed Huddersfield, how our fans are vile, how the referee was literally Hitler, how Neil Warnock is a cunt, how Diouf dives.

2-4

Erm, actually, no.

First half we bossed it, then decided to not defend for five mental minutes. Smithies will get the criticism for the first, but someone should have got to the ball before the shot. Think it took a deflection, to be fair to Alex. Second half we didn't get a kick, Leeds' midfield just bossed it, all their experience showing. Ref was the best I've seen in years, absolutely no complaints.

Our fans are now under investigation for anti-Semitic chanting. Yep. Bang to rights. Sadly the club's name will be dragged through the mud rather than the section of support who chanted. However, there's one cunt who's been caught giving a Hitler salute to the away fans. Ban him for two years and see how quickly people realise anti-Semitism isn't acceptable.