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#374014 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Football comes second. He's a dad and making sure he's fit and well is very much the priority. Should have known it'd take a broken neck to keep Hogg down, though - he's tough as old boots. Leader of the press, which makes it doubly gutting, as he's the one who sets the tone for the rest of the team. That said, we have Dean Whitehead - he's more than capable of rolling back the years to add the needed bite in midfield, that was so obviously lacking on Friday night.
#373951 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Half the team was ill. Hefele and Stankovic were both sent home, Hudson and Schindler were also feeling the effects, and it looked like Smith, Billing, Kachunga and Mooy were also really struggling with something. The sheer number of times we seemed to jump under the ball makes me think depth perception was off. The fact we got out-run at times also suggests to me that there was something physically wrong with the team. Bugs happen. Not an excuse, just an explanation. There's several missing from the U23s today as well.
The Hogg thing just topped it off. Bristol newspapers reporting he's out long-term, which pretty much fucks our promotion bid up, so I hope it's just them misinterpreting Wagner's analysis. I'd take a 4-0 hammering any day of the week if it meant we got Hogg back for the run-in. I'd rather have him than the points.
Apologies for the latest ref rant. He was shocking, but not the reason we lost. I'd rather suffer a horror show ref in a game which is gone than in a tight one. He made basic errors and let them get away with a lot, but we weren't competing. Penalty was yet another joke decision but just put some undeserving gloss on the scoreline. Bristol were better than us, far more aggressive, and took their chances, but 4 is harsh.
#373860 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
#372485 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
First one's never seen a penalty. Zero contact, trips himself up. Changes the game. Handball in the build-up too, even if we didn't get it away as we should have. Second should be disallowed - as Ward has the ball in one hand and in his control. This myth about two hands seems to have arisen in the same way as 'last man' for professional fouls the actual law (which Mr East and his hopeless assistants may wish to read) is as follows:
A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:
-the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
-holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
-bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hands.
As Ward was grasping the ball, he's deemed to be in control and therefore the goal should not stand as Murphy fouls him (soft as it may seem).
Always hard coming back from having two goals gifted to the opposition by abysmal decisions. Our penalty was soft, granted, but a million times more a penalty than Newcastle's. Overall we played well. Just couldn't get behind a defence that dropped deep, defended well and didn't allow us time and space in the danger area. Third goal was entirely of our own making - why we sent Coleman up then is beyond me. Gave the scoreline a gloss that Newcastle just didn't deserve. But the game was taken away from us in the first half-hour and it was always going to be difficult.
#372171 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Hopefully used up your quota of luck with that Diame goal! That said, you make your own luck with things like that from time to time.
#372168 2016/17 FA Cup
terriersmad
Billing was tremendous, and the experience will have done some of the young lads good. Stankovic will be a good player, and he'll be stronger for playing against the Agueros of the world. Holmes-Dennis will grow from his tough night. Payne never stopped running. The goal will have done Bunn's confidence the world of good. On to Newcastle.
#371885 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Calling referees corrupt is my job. Piss off.
#371777 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
It is. Even if the FA are determinedly trying to ensure we won't be able to go up with Wagner's ban. What an absolute joke. It's one thing to ban him, but the timing is suspect and the fact he's got two when Monk only got one for doing far more sums it up. Joke.
#371649 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
#371266 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
#370765 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Need to keep it going. Another 20 points will guarantee play-offs, which has to be a minimum now.
As for you guys, I saw the highlights. Wednesday very lucky - yet again. Not seen the Sam Hutchinson challenge on Gallagher which I heard was a bad one and should have seen Hutchinson marching, but having seen a few other decisions... Christ. They got more luck in one game than we've had all season. The Emnes shot I'll trust the linesman with because the camera isn't conclusive, but no idea what Akpan was penalised for. Not sure what Akpan did was a red either - looked like he misjudged the distance between him and the ref to me. I know why the ref sent him off, but no further action needed there for me - I see the FA have charged him, presumably for threatening to upset Sheffield Wednesday and their luck brigade.
#370740 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Fo shua.
#369472 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Ah, I see you've swallowed Pravda lock, stock and barrel.
#369311 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Slightly longer take on today: What a win. Coming at this time, against that team, after the performance and result on Thursday, this is a fantastic result. And a deserved one. Justice in the end. We were more dangerous, played all the football and stood up to their rough stuff extremely well.
A word on the spat at the end: Fuck off, Monk. You know exactly what you did. Wagner over-celebrated a last-minute winner in a local derby - it's called passion. You then deliberately barged him and set off a mass brawl. To then come out in the press conference and say you have humility and respect is a downright lie.
#369229 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
All the best to Connor Goldson. Hope he comes back stronger than ever
#368912 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Worth pointing out that Brighton had conceded only 18 goals all season before tonight. If they were poor at the back, it was because we forced them into errors and capitalised on them. Stockdale ended up keeping the score down (how he saved VLP's drive from the edge of the box I have no idea), along with a friendly outside of the post. Granted, Brighton were awful, but that was because we were brilliant. Their midfield couldn't lay a glove on ours. Mooy, cock-up backpass aside, controlled the game. Hogg allowed him to do that (and was probably man of the match for his tireless work).
Now for Sunday and Leeds. Hopefully not a case of after the Lord Mayor's show. I expect we'll make some changes.
#368861 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
I'd love us to carry on and go all the way. And I hope we do. To fall short would be agonising. But considering how far we've come in the last 15 months we have so much to be proud of. Huddersfield has fallen back in love with its team, and there's a connection I've never seen before at the club between players and fans. It stands us in good stead for the future. I'm proud to be a Town fan this season. And that's all that matters.
#368493 2016/17 FA Cup
terriersmad
Alternatively, we'll take Manchester City at home. Given they have a Champions League game that week (and also play the previous Monday), I wonder if they might rest a few or take their eyes off the ball. Could prove a glorious chance to go through to the quarter-finals.
#368481 2016/17 FA Cup
terriersmad
#368327 2016/17 FA Cup
terriersmad
#368202 2016/17 FA Cup
terriersmad
Got to be honest, I've not seen a pitch that bad in a very long time. The ball held up horribly at times, bobbled all over the park and was really awkward. We just didn't get to grips with it and for 35 minutes the match was utterly awful. I keep reading about how Rochdale dominated us, and it's true that they missed two good chances, but they also didn't get a shot on target for 80 minutes, by which time we were 3-0 up. They got about us, made life hard, kicked us up in the air at times, but the pitch meant good football on either side was at a real premium.
Quaner scored and looked good. In truth the opening goal came about because the Kevin Pressman-alike in goal (he was seriously fat. I mean... fat) shanked his kick and we capitalised - Brown squared to Quaner who was just onside, and he got his debut goal. Second goal came after Hudson got a fairly hefty shove on a corner and the ref, to his credit, spotted it. Our first penalty since last March was duly dispatched by Brown, who looks a real talent. Hefele benefited from some comical goalkeeping after a free-kick, and the fourth was undeniably the goal of the game - nice work giving Mooy the time and space to ping a pass for Quaner to run onto. Quaner drove at the defence, pulled it across, and Hefele, playing as a striker and demonstrating plan B of sticking a centre-half up top can work on a dodgy pitch in driving rain in Rochdale, finished.
Special mention to the goalkeeper, young Coleman, who was immaculate. Although he wasn't troubled by any of their shots, they did put plenty of balls in and his handling was impeccable. I really am starting to rate him. For a kid, he's got great maturity and his command of his area is excellent.
#367876 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
"Nope."
"So the ban's overturned?"
"Nope."
"But you just said that he shouldn't have been sent off?"
"Yeah, well. Fuck you."
Wolves keeper ban cut and not overturned - despite the fact it shouldn't have been a red card.
#367554 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Excellent way of skating over the fact he should have been off for a blatant professional foul in the same incident
As for us, really comfortable 3 points even with half the team missing against Ipswich. They were vastly improved from their abysmal showing against Lincoln, but they were still only going to score if an act of God happened to blow the ball into our net. We scored two, the first an outstanding strike from Izzy Brown who turned his man on the halfway line, drove at the defence and curled in from 25 yards, Kachunga three times went close and Hefele mistimed his jump on a Kachunga cross horribly when it was easier to score than miss while the ref became the latest to ignore strong penalty appeals, particularly when Kachunga was dragged down on a corner. When I see some of the penalties given yesterday (Fulham being the first one that springs to mind, along with the Leeds one) I have to ask what on earth we have to do to get a penalty. 91 awarded in this division this season, not one to us, which is getting silly considering we're third. I know we'll miss it when we get it, mind.
#367243 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Town news: striker apparently imminent - pictures from today show FC Union Berlin striker Collin Quaner at the ground (if it's him and not Terrence Boyd). So we'll have two for the rest of the season, plus Kachunga. At last, a 6'+ striker who can scare defenders physically! And now confirmed. Not sure if he's available for tomorrow as we were waiting for international clearance.
#367201 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
It's no wonder that fans feel alienated from the modern game. We come second to the money. Christ, the clubs themselves come second to the TV, and without the clubs themselves there'd be no football at all.
In actual football news, we've signed an attacking midfielder from non-league. 18-year-old Deshane Dalling joins the development squad from Staines Town after impressing on a trial last month. Still need a first-team striker. Terrence Boyd still rumoured, but nobody seems to have a clue what's going on (beyond Wagner saying he hasn't failed a medical).
#366799 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
I'm very rarely sympathetic to anything he does. On this occasion, though, I agreed with him. Not normally an issue for us when we're pootling around lower mid-table, but we're going to have at least 7 on telly this season. Norwich away on a Friday night and Bristol City away on a Friday night take the mick for fans - I'm not saying we'd have taken huge numbers to either (1,000 to Norwich, perhaps, and maybe slightly more to Bristol), but it does hit numbers. I doubt we'll manage to get 700 down to Bristol now. At least Brighton's game up here was a Tuesday in the first place so people from there would have struggled due to the fixture list anyway, for what little it's worth. Always worse for the 'glamour' clubs, too. You coming here on a Saturday evening isn't so bad, but I'm sure you'll be able to think of half-a-dozen examples of inconvenienced fans this season.
And we're not appealing the Payne red card, which is unfortunate but understandable. Worth pointing out I've been to Wembley more often (twice) than Town have had successful appeals since I started supporting them, so we may as well save the money, especially if Palmer's fit.
#366690 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Bristol City away on a Friday night, too. Which is a charmer of an away day. On one hand, they provide a crucial revenue stream. On the other, it's not fair on the fans and the clubs the way they dick around with fixtures. We play on Sky twice in a week soon - Brighton on a Thursday night then Leeds on the Sunday. Two fewer recovery days than Leeds, who play on the Tuesday. You can't tell me that doesn't hand an on-pitch advantage to one of our play-off rivals.
Also not helping matters again are the officials. Today's took the mickey beyond belief. Firstly, they were the same idiots who handed Wednesday the win at our place with a dodgy penalty. Secondly, they did it again! Not excusing our standing off their lad for their first goal, mind. Though there was a very clear foul on Nahki Wells when they won the ball - simply grabbed him and hauled him down by his shirt. Really don't know how an official can't give it, because it's blatant. As for Payne's red card - sorry. Just no. No excuse for such an awful decision. It's a foul. If the referee is having a bad day and is brooking no shit, it's a booking. But it's absolutely not a red card. It's not over the top, it's not high, it's not going with two feet, it's not showing studs, it's not out of control or dangerous in any way. It's a mistimed tackle by a player who's lost the ball (after being fouled, it's worth adding). Of course, we're not on the favoured list of the FA, so we've no chance with an appeal. We'd have to wear black and white and have a player kick someone in the head to stand a chance of having it overturned. Just to rub it in, the second goal is offside and later in the game a Wednesday player goes in studs-up and shin-high on Kachunga and only picks up a booking - for a much worse tackle than the one which saw red (judge for yourselves: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/FA">@FA</a> to add insult to injury, this happens later in the game and it's a yellow
#366264 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
#366035 2016/17 FA Cup
terriersmad
Lots of good prospects in that team. Payne was excellent against Wigan and he always looks a livewire. Good to see him get two goals, as well as having one ruled out for offside and another cleared off the line. Brown looked very good on debut. Lolley looked a bit ring-rusty after being out since August, but once he's up to speed again he'll be a big player. Stankovic, with time, is going to be an outstanding defender and I suspect he'll be a full international by the end of the calendar year and be the first name on the teamsheet. Holmes-Dennis was also very assured at the back and seems to be growing with every game he plays (that's 5 starts now). The young keeper, Coleman, looked very good again, although again he wasn't really tested, simply having to come and catch a couple and make a good punch at one point - even so, good to see a keeper command his area so well when he's only a kid. We had seven 20-year-olds in the starting XI, plus Lolley, Hudson, Whitehead and Cranie, which can only bode well for the future.
#365639 The Lower League Thread
terriersmad
Probably means Bunn to Barnsley is also a done deal, after Paurevic departed for Ufa yesterday.