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#266929 Dans Journey Around The World [FM15]
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Turned out to be a nice, simple and easy season in the end. Congrats on chalking Iceland off.
#266923 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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We were in the 'driving seat' heading into the final day Dan, unfortunately we had a tough trip to Hamburg while Schalke welcomed already relegated Dresden to their home so it was always going to be tough, we'll try this season though.

Yeah the seven loses cost me in the end Benniewijs.

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Dortmund - pre season round-up

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After narrowly missing out on the league title last season, my second campaign in charge of Borussia Dortmund MUST have league success this time around but I know it won't be easy as Schalke will want to retain their crown and Koln will expect a better campaign this season while Bayern haven't had much success to cheer about.

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The pressure, as expected, is on. The boards minimum expectation is for the team to win the league title and after coming so close last season, it's a real possibility. I've been given a transfer budget of just over twenty six million pound and a good wage budget as well, whether I use most of that transfer budget or not remains to be seen.

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I ended up signing four players this summer but I only expect two of them to be regulars in the first team - Javi Mayor cost £7.75m from Barcelona's "B" team and Renzo Scavetta was signed from Swiss champions St. Gallen for £4.1m while strikers Tom Thorvaldsen and Kai Haas signed from Stromsgodset and Dusseldorf.

The only real 'major' departure this summer saw striker Uwe Oswald join Barcelona for £7.25m while I let John Nyarko leave for "peanuts', Roman Schmid (Stuttgart) and Ronny Rose (Hamburg St. Pauli) left when they both agreed pre-contracts and I released Christoph Kuche and Anastasios Vlisaroulis.

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Just the one defeat in what turned out to be a promising pre season as we won the other nine friendly games including an excellent win at home to a Benfica side who had eliminated us from the Champions League last season.
#266850 Newcastle Thread
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Unprofessional.

Jonas should have been treated A LOT more respected.
#266844 The Wrestling Thread.
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FIGHT OWENS FIGHT!!
#266842 The Night Thread Mk. IX
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I highly doubt KEVO has seen too much of the outside life in Dublin however he could probably give you good hospital advice!

You are a horrible person!

#266841 fm 2014 polish db
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Check the Steam workshop.
#266824 Dans Journey Around The World [FM15]
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Are you trying to tell me that they've won the league for the previous 40+ years? That's insane.

Oh and what's with all the Northern Irish/Irish players in the squad?

Good luck though mate.
#266747 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Dortmund - End of season update 2057/58

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It hasn't been a bad season to date for me at Dortmund as we still remain in the three competitions (League, German Cup and Champions League) while we demolished Koln to win the German Super Cup back in August but we're now in the year twenty fifty eight and I get to wish 'everyone' a Happy New Year and I'd love us to win both domestic trophies this season.

German Cup:

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I've wrapped up trophy #3 here in Germany and my second since being appointed manager of Dortmund as the side lifted the German Cup, beating Hamburg 5-2 in the final as three late goals avoided extra time, which we needed to beat Leverkusen in the semis. It's mental that we scored 4+ plus goals in all of the six German Cup ties.

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Champions League:

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This is a trophy I've yet to win in this long and epic career and it remains that way after a first knockout stage exit to Portuguese side Benfica, which frustrated me as I thought we could've advanced but a five goal first leg defeat made it virtually impossible - we'll try again next season.

League - First Division:

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We failed to win only five games in the second part of the campaign (three draws and two defeats) as the form was quite consistent as we looked to wrap up the league title and then I could have resigned as Dortmund manager with immediate effect but, were we crowned Bundesliga champions come the end of the season?

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The answer would be no. After thirty four games in the league, my Dortmund side have finished the campaign in second place and a single point behind a Schalke side who have wrapped up their first league title in ONE HUNDRED YEARS which is pretty mental but I'll go again next season in a hope to win the league for the first time in three seasons.

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This is the final piece of news, I have agreed a one year contract extension at the club (thought they'd offer me a longer deal?) as I only had eight weeks remaining on my current deal and I was hesitant to accept as I didn't know whether we were going to win the league or not, but we didn't, I'll try and win it next season and if we don't then I could see myself getting the chop.

Oh and clutching at straws much, media? They had to mention a humiliating Scottish Cup exit at the hands of East Fife.
#266737 [Story] I've been playing the same Football Manager save for almost 5 years and still haven't won the World Cup. This is my story...
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Moved to the careers section.
#266662 Scottish Football Thread
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Embarrassing.

Needs to be a massive clear out, all the has-been's (and never were's) can fuck off.
#266610 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Dortmund - Mid season update 2057/58

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I've finally reached the winter break here in Germany and it hasn't been a bad campaign over the four competitions that the football club will be competing in this season. I've a good chance to secure trophy #1 as the club are competing in the German Super Cup against reigning champions Koln, a tough game though while the board also expect me to win not just the league but the German Cup as well, the pressure is on!

German Super Cup:

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Wow. This is how you start the 'competitive' action with an emphatic German Super Cup success against the champions Koln as a hat trick from Chris Sturzenegger helped us towards a 6-1 win at our home venue - Murat Veli, Ole Hansen and Sokol Xhixha also scored in the rout.

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German Cup:

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The side still remain in the German Cup and will face second tier side Hertha Berlin at home in the quarter finals, a winnable tie and I expect progression to the semis. We had beaten Wuppertal, 1860 Munich and Berlin-Kopenick Dammfeld in the previous three rounds.

Champions League:

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After advancing through the group stages of the competition, needed to beat Inter Milan in the final group game to confirm our passage we will be facing Portuguese side Benfica over two legs in the first knockout round and I'm under no illusions that this is going to be a tough game for the side and we'll need to be on the 'top of our game' if we're to progress.

League - First Division:

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I suppose I shouldn't complain at how the first half of the league season has gone but we've lost five games so far this season (the side only lost five times last season) but they've been the only points we've dropped as we've won the other twelve games even though we haven't been playing overly well at times.

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Just look at how tight that league table is at the moment as only five points separate leaders Schalke and fifth placed Werder Bremen and I've got a feeling it's going to remain that tight up until the 'business end' of the campaign and maybe right through to the final day. We are second place after seventeen games and I know it could have been worse.
#266451 Dans Journey Around The World [FM15]
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I'm not surprised you have stepped down as manager but well done on survival. Looking forward to your next stop...
#266258 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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One year ago they laughed me off bmg033, glad they didn't this time around.

The previous manager got sacked after finishing second and a trophy-less season if I remember correctly Dan, the pressure is on!

Yep and it's Stuttgart's loss itchycoo, they can remain in the second division while I (hopefully) wrap up the domestic treble with Dortmund this season although it won't be easy.

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Dortmund - pre season round-up

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Whenever I got chopped as manager of Stuttgart for 'broken promises', I didn't think I would have landed on my feet (so to speak) but when the Dortmund job became available and I passed the interview and got offered the job, well, I couldn't exactly say no to a German club who have been dominating recent seasons although Koln won the league last season.

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I've brought three new players, the signing of Andreas Beckmann on a free transfer from Bayern Munich was agreed before I arrived but I have spent almost five million on defender Jean-Marc Renson who will be first choice while the other trio of Andreas Beckmann, Yuzo Shigeta and Ole Hansen will be back-up.

Despite being rated at five stars, I let Adigun Onwuekulu join Real Madrid for ten million pounds and that's pretty good money for a thirty five year old. Moritz Sauer, Moussa Kodio and Kevin Kuhn left the club on frees after agreeing pre contracts elsewhere while I also let Robin Blaszak and Samet Ozdas depart the club this summer.

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A draw away to Auxerre stopped it being a perfect pre season friendly campaign but I can't complain too much as we scored goals in every game but also only kept three clean sheets from the eight games but that's fine as the players needed to get used to my formation and I hope they are now as our season begins with a German Super Cup game against Koln.
#266115 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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We aren't, are we Dan? You get sacked for doing poorly while I get sacked for always breaking promises. Our luck HAS to change.
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Staying put

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Around three months ago I was chopped as manager of second division side Stuttgart after only one hundred and sixty days in charge and that sacking last me frustrated as I felt 'defenceless' but I've found a job that I had previously applied for one year ago only to be unsuccessful, could I have more luck this time around?

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Oh yes, I've got the job I applied for last summer! After finishing second last season they sacked their manager so the pressure is indeed on me from the very beginning but that's fine because I relish the pressure. The club have only given me a one year deal and a transfer budget of just over two million pound but that could easily be 'modified' by reducing the wage budget slightly.

It's a good chance to chalk three domestic trophies off here if I'm lucky, or I'll be sacked again.
#266090 The Big Leagues
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Good luck with this fella.
#266086 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Cheers bmg033, I'm pleased with the start I've made but the board aren't, they think I should be preforming better as manager, WTF like? It seems mental they'd say that when I've won four out of my first five games and the previous manager left them in a mess with unhappy players and quite poor harmony.
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Stuttgart - 13 April 2057

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My time at Stuttgart ended in one hundred and sixty days and they were limited from my very beginning due to the clubs board being idiotic, complaining about I should be preforming better as manager after only five games (four wins in those five), they also began moaning about squad harmony and that affected the performances on the field and it led to just one decision from the board . . .

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. . . I've been sacked. The reason "failure to improve squad harmony" was given and I don't agree with it one bit as I sure tried to change it but it was quite impossible and the previous manager, who supported me at times (along with the fans) should be blamed for not selling the players who were unhappy. One hundred and sixty days in charge, really thought I could have made it until the end of the season.

League - Second Division:

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You can see for yourself that the form after the winter break was inconsistent to say the very least. I ended up being in charge for ten games after the break, winning just four of them and losing the other six, they could have used the excuse 'poor league position' for my departure but no, they went with the lame "squad harmony".

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I leave the club lying in tenth place and only ten points behind the leaders with them having five league games remaining a chance for a real push to finish in at least in a play-off spot but it wasn't to be and c'est le vie. I feel I was never really wanted at the club, hence why I was under pressure quite early on for no (proper) valid reason.
#266065 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Stuttgart - The first 5 league games

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Just five league games were remaining before the winter break here in Germany and with the club being dumped out of the German Cup which led to the previous manager being sacked, it means it's nothing but straight league games on the quest for promotion back to the Bundesliga at the first time of asking - something they achieved the last time they were relegated, something like two seasons ago.

League - Second Division:

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Don't think I could have asked for a more perfect start to life at the club although we were lucky to secure a home victory over Duisburg - despite winning 1-0, we were battered for the majority of the game - we should have beat basement side Grobaspach easier but I can't overly complain.

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After nineteen league games (five in charge for me), I have lifted Stuttgart up to fourth place in the standings and seven points behind the leaders but we're also only twelve points ahead of RW Essen who are currently down in sixteenth place so consistency is very important in our aim for promotion, one way or another.
#265992 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Trying to win the league with Wolfsburg was going to be near on impossible and that's a shame itchycoo and then they ended up getting relegated back to 3. Bundesliga the first season I left, all that hard work, undone by two managers, not impressed. Cheers, I'm pleased I don't need to return to Scotland.

At least that's Scotland finally completed Dan.

Welcome back to Susie Benniewijs, I hope you're more regular now again. Dan and I were chatting (mostly rubbish) on PM about doing this challenge - not in aplhabetical order - and trying to make this our one and only career on Football Manager 2015, around six months done the line I think we've kept our promise . . . to date.

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I'm ready . . . I'm ready . . . for a third stint in German football

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After handing in my resignation at Clyde at the end of April following the League 1 success, I had to wait around six/seven months to get my next break in football manager - after being unsuccessful (without even getting an interview) at Hannover, Diusburg and then the giants of Dortmund, I didn't know when my next managers job was coming, and then a job that I wanted the last time, finally came.

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I 'watched' their 2-0 Bundesliga defeat against Hertha Berlin not knowing what would have happened, but a single goal extra time defeat in the German Cup singled the end of Tita at Stuttgart and now I was ready to make my next move.

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I applied for the job as I'm sure many expected when it became available, then I attended the interview and done enough to impress them to be offered the post at the Mercedes-Benz-Arena. They're expected to win promotion and even though they're mid-table, they're not adrift and it's doable but providing I get off to a good start.

Just five league games are remaining before the winter break and they're all winnable . . .
#265985 Dans Journey Around The World [FM15]
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You need to give up on Sweden, mate.
#265850 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Indeed it is Cymro, just hope I can get them over the 'finishing line' so I don't need to return to Scotland again.
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Clyde - End of season update 2055/56

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Once again it's time to wish everyone a Happy New Year and I have reached the second half of the league season here at Clyde and things haven't been going too bad bar early exits in both the League Cup and Scottish Cup but in hindsight that's a good thing as now it's straight league games until the end of the season, no distractions, no excuses.

League - League 1:

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Wow! Now that's what you call a remarkable run of form in the second half of the league season as we only lost three games, two at the end of the season and four draws, three of them being a row against Airdrie, Arbroath and Motherwell. Only three clean sheets were kept in the remaining seventeen league games but c'est le vie.

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That excellent second part of the 2055/56 campaign was enough to see us crowned as champions and in return meaning I can chalk Scotland off once and for all, we ended the campaign seven points ahead of Airdrie who along with St. Johnstone and East Fife must contest in the play-off's.

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I've only been at the club for three hundred and five days but I have tendered my resignation following the league title success this campaign and now theirs no point in me remaining at the Football Club anymore and now it's time to look for a new managerial job, whenever that shall be, just got Germany and Switzerland to conclude before I can load more nations.
#265810 Dans Journey Around The World [FM15]
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Are you close to giving up managing in Sweden, mate?
#265808 On a quest to be the best. [FM15]
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Clyde - Mid season update 2055/56

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On my return to Clyde Football Club, I have reached the end of the calendar year in twenty fifty five and it hasn't been a bad season to date . . . in the league anyway but the board are currently monitoring the harmony amongst the squad so don't be surprised if I end up getting the sack again for the second time from the same chairman if I remember correctly but I hope I don't.

Challenge Cup:

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This competition has been previously won so when we lost the final to my former employers Inverness Caledonian Thistle (the team who I won the trophy with) I wasn't too 'disheartened'. We had a 'home run' to the final as we seen off Dumbarton, Stranraer, Kilmarnock and Forfar in the previous four rounds before losing the final to Caley Thistle.

League Cup:

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Another competition in Scotland that wasn't important but I was a little disappointed to have crashed out in the second round but we did face a tough trip to Dunfermline Athletic who play in the Championship iirc, Matt Marshall scored our goal and we had previously beat Motherwell in the first round before the exit at East End Park.

Scottish Cup:

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The less said about the Scottish Cup the better! Yes we have already won the competition but it doesn't hide the fact that I was highly annoyed with our third round exit (first hurdle for the club) at the hands of fellow League 1 side East Fife.

League - League 1:

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With just five league defeats and two draws from our opening nineteen league games, we have had an outstanding first half of the campaign and I really hope that remains the same when we resume league action on New Years Day for the final batch of league fixtures as we look to secure League 1 and in return chalking of Scotland once and for all. I was angry after losing 4-0 at home to second bottom Motherwell, I couldn't find any excuses for that defeat.

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Sitting top of the table and six points clear of second placed Stranraer, I can't get carried away as their is still seventeen league games remaining and I'd love to get over the finishing line and avoid the 'circus' of the play-off's. In the league we have scored forty seven goals but conceded thirty five and that's far too many in my opinion and needs to be addressed.
#265784 The Lower League Thread
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Jermaine Beckford has bagged a hat trick in the L1 play-off final. 4-0 now.
#265778 The Lower League Thread
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Preston a goal up inside the opening three minutes against Swindon.

Jermaine Beckford the goalscorer.
#265772 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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#265767 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Survival ensured.
#265764 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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JONAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#265762 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Vernon Anita you are a fucking cunt.
#265760 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Manchester United reduced to ten men.
#265755 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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SISSOKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!