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#248099 The Night Thread Mk. IX
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~~~ never mind ~~~
#248088 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Barnes knew Matic was coming and could have quite easily 'stabbed' at the ball with his foot rather than follow through knowing full well he would make contact with Matic. The one on Ivanovic wasn't a lot better either. Both are just crafty tricks anyone that's played football for a good length of time knows they can get away with and he did.

Bingo!

Even the way Barnes gets up and walks away after the challenge gives the impression he knows what he's done and could be in trouble. Had he been correctly booked earlier, the whole situation could have possibly been avoided, or seen him pick up a second booking. When there has been ex-officials and players coming out and saying Atkinson got it clearly wrong (along with the other 3 key decisions) it certainly highlights the incident more and how incredibly lucky Barnes was to get away without any reprimand whatsoever.

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#247574 Old Trafford Lounge
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I highly doubt we've paid Southampton an upfront fee of £30 million. It's probably more something in the region of £15-£20 million up front with the rest in add ons. It's not a bad deal for us really given his age and ability. Those potential downsides to his transfer are the same with any transfer, Di Maria, Blind and Herrera could all want away within a season or two if we don't make the Champions League or start challenging for the league title.

And it's a realistic concern to have and one that does need to be taken into consideration. If the situation arose where they all started to want out the club would be struggling to get their money back on some players if they're knowingly unsettled. Having just taken a look at United's run in, they've got quite a challenging finish to the season. If they miss out on the Champions League again this season, next year the pressure is really going to be on. I can't see some players wanting to stay if the club struggle again next season too.
#247571 Old Trafford Lounge
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When you look at Shaw over 10 years, sure it seems like a good investment (transfer fee wise). However, you could dispute any transfer of a similar nature using a similar argument. On the flip side of it, there's also no guarantee he'll be there for that long, let alone beyond his current contact. If United continue to struggle like they have the last two seasons, continue to finish outside of the Champions League positions, then there's a genuine chance he may even leave. Then there is the factor of having to pay him an absurd contact whenever it comes time to renewing his current one, because of what he's been given to entice him to the club to begin with. There's certainly a potential downside to his transfer too.

He hasn't been a bad signing though, just not worth what has initially been paid. Time will only tell if it's a good deal or not.
#247325 The Italian Football Thread
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Italian football is at a real low right now. Wasn't so long ago that they had 3 world class teams that could win the CL, but now not a single one of them is even close to challenging for it. That scandal in 2006 is still harming the Italian leagues to be honest.

It's not just that but also that there is no money in Italian football any more. It's getting harder to attract the best players because the league isn't like it once was during it's prime and has steadily declined.
#247312 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Martin Atkinson is an absolute bell end of an official.

Two stone wall penalties denied. A clear handball and then an even clearer two handed push on Costa who's in on goal. Then to not even book Barnes for his disgusting challenge on Matic was appalling. Matic deserved his red for his reaction, so no qualms about that. But Barnes should have been off one way or another. He deserved a yellow earlier in the game for either one of his two challenges on Ivanovic or Zouma, where he clearly leads with his knee and plants it into both players during each respective challenge. He shouldn't have finished on the pitch, be it two yellows or a straight red.

That aside; we were awful for the most part. No urgency, lethargic and about as blunt as a butter knife going forward. Burnley played well enough to keep themselves in the game and in fairness I can't begrudge them a point. Courtios made an excellent couple of saves to keep them out earlier on.

Losing Matic is a big blow, particularly for the LC final. Thankfully we've also got a bit of a break coming up for our players to get some rest before the final third of the season. Hopefully we manage to hold on.
#247133 Europa League 2014/2015
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It would never have been such a big issue if Gerrard hadn't thrown Balotelli under a bus live on television.

Which was a touch ironic given Gerrard's comments at the beginning of the season about him being the second choice taker. It's all a mountain out of a mole hole sort of deal.
#246129 FA Cup 2014/15
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- Spurs are in transistion
- Arsenal self destructed
- Everton have got a touch of second season syndrome
- Liverpool have got a touch of second season syndrome and sold their best player
- Southampton aren't actually that good
- Nor are West Ham
- Newcastle certainly aren't.

This is why Man Utd are third. All of the other teams aren't playing very well.

Man City are also not playing very well, but better than Man Utd.

Basically agree with this.

I'd probably be reasonably satisfied if I was a Man Utd supporter about sitting 3rd, considering what's been served up this season. It could, and really should be far worse than the situation on hand. At the same time, I'd be expecting far more out of a side that has had nearly £200m invested in it during the summer.

The worrying thing is that they're a side that still looks like it needs another £300m worth of smart investment had to properly strengthen and provided a balanced squad. There's a lot of dead wood still had, unfulfilled potential and a couple on the decline.
#244376 Better Call Saul
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Do you need to have watched Breaking Bad to watch this? I only ever got through like 2 seasons of BB before it started to bore me and I never ended up watching the rest.
#244201 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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He is though, forget the fact that he's reputation is that of a world class forward and judge him on what you've seen this season.

He works hard and he has good movement, thats it. If his name was Danny Welbeck rather than Radamal Falcao he'd get pilloried every week for how badly he's playing. He's been abysmal, there's no point blaming it on 'systems' or anything like that, when a player who you're paying £300,000 a week on is routinely missing sitters the problems are personal not systematic. At least RVP can control the ball and bring others in, Falcao's first touch is so bad that his second is a tackle.

I don't think Di Maria is doing that badly though. New to the league, he's struggling with the physicality (and its never nice to see a player pull out of challenges and not contest 50/50s) but we pretty much only look good going forward when he's on the ball. He's struggling with the shite in front of him.

He's doing alright, he's just getting hate because we don't win every game 10-0 and because he's not playing a fan favourite and the Rooney in midfield madness.

Wait a minute, you're basically making one excuse for one player and not applying it to the other, who's in the exact same position. Both are new to the league, both are being paid an absolute packet and both haven't delivered up to what was expected. Di Maria started well but that's about all he's done since. He's probably been the more disappointing of the two, considering he was actually purchased and more or less had a starting birth locked in.
#243888 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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The weird thing is he looks ok physically.

Yeah, he might not be as quick as before but he's throwing himself into tackles, competing in the air and looking strong.

It's when he's asked to do anything remotely technical thats the problem. His touch is appalling, his link up play is non existent, he can't dribble, and he can't finish. If you haven't see it his miss today was woeful.

He's not that sort of striker that really relied on his pace. He had enough of a burst to get him past some players but a lot of his good work comes from running the channels and getting himself isolated one-on-one with a defender, that's his bread and butter. While he's got that knack of cutting the ball back and curling it into a corner, something he's done regularly. With the EPL being a quicker pace, he doesn't quite get that same time like he'd be used to in Spain etc and thus he find himself rushed. I don't think he's helped either with the way United are set up to play, it doesn't really suit his qualities.
#243881 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Well, I'm sure he had the option to just not leave Atletico, then. Surely a better decision than going to Monaco.

With the money involved I doubt he had little choice once an offer was accepted, given Atletico's financial situation at the time. He'll probably leave Man Utd and recapture his touch, I don't think he's as done as what it may appear.
#243877 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Playing for Porto and Atletico Madrid is hardly a joke, especially considering his form for both clubs. His move to Monaco tarnished what could've been a very good career.

In a way, his form and value kinda limited his transfer options- more so when you remove Real Madrid from the equation. Was always going to be difficult moving on from Atletico unless someone coughed up ridiculous money, enter Monaco.
#243412 Newcastle Thread
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I'm certain I've read that Chelsea and Liverpool have penalty clauses in their loan player contracts? Clubs get fined if they don't play the loan players?


I hope we get Moshni in return. He looks great fun.

Chelsea don't as fair as I'm aware. Wouldn't make sense considering the number of recalled loans we've had because x side hash't been playing x player. Has happened with Kalas, Marin, Chalobah and Feruz, to name a couple who all returned and then sent out again to other sides because they weren't getting game time. While the likes of Astu and McEachran for example have only played a handful of games this season too.

I know the club weren't pleased about some, but they're in no position to force a loan club to play a player they've been loaned.
#243410 Transfer Rumours 2014/15
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I really do hope we don't sign Berahino in the summer, he is hugely overrated. I'm glad that none of our younger players haven't gone down the route of being flash and arrogant. Kane, Townsend, Bentaleb & Mason just getting their heads down and working hard has been great to see, even when they don't play well.

In ways though it's a slightly different situation. Those players are already at a (and it pains me to say this, naturally) a solid statured club that is amongst the top half of the league, competes in European competition, etc. There's no incentive for those players to move because all the tools are already on hand for them to make it. The only reason for a move would be to play more regularly, which is most cases means dropping down to a lower half side or down divisions in most cases. Or now and then (i.e. Bale) to move to an elite side. Berahino's sole incentive would obviously be to move to a bigger statured club, similar happened with Zaha.

The issue is that those sort of players move for fee's that are overly inflated and increased expectations because of that, which then gives a player the impression of entitlement of playing regularly for a bigger club, like they were at the one they just left.. In the real world, it doesn't work like that though. That's where the mentality needs to change. A lot of young players who've caught the eye with some decent football and then move to bigger sides don't really do that apprenticeship like back 10-20-30 years ago. It's the way modern football is these days, more so now that's it's very business orientated and the whole attitude has changed within it.
#242296 Transfer Rumours 2014/15
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Chelsea also sold Bertand to Southampton for £10m.

Cuardado has effectively cost us nothing and the club have made profit once again.

Good business once again in terms of transfer fees. Though am a little concerned by the lack of depth and we've ultimately come out of the window another player down.
#241661 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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On another note; how good is Zouma!
#241660 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Okay you're actually worse than Liverpool fans and Suarez..

I could maybe let him get away with the Skrtel one as accidental but the Can one was not him 'trodding' on Can, he stamped on him and the intent is clear

Oh, jog on.

Fact. There is literally no way you, nor I, nor anyone else for that matter, can prove if there was intent by Costa. Unless you have some sort of expansive ability to tap into the thought process of Diego Costa during that exact moment, there is, and always will, remain doubt. He's being judged on what we all saw, which was him chasing down a ball, one he was clearly fixed on, and didn't once take his eyes from his objective (the ball) to locate Can's position before planting his foot. His "reputation" certainly was used to portray the incident in a much different light to what actually unfolded. If you didn't see the incident and purely read what was written, you'd have thought he lined Can up and furiously landed a curb stomp of some sort. As the old adjective goes; innocent until proven guilty. No one can without a shadow of a doubt say the incident occurred with 100% intent. Period. A position backed by a number of ex-players; including Henry, G. Neville and Scholes.

Skrtel was even lucky to be on the pitch himself with his clear elbow on Costa in the first leg. Costa cops a lot of treatment from defenders, more than what most strikers receive, and he's yet to literally snap. He'll push the boundaries and give what he gets back, but it's important to remember that he's not some thug. It might be hard to believe, but Ronaldo has more red cards than Costa.

But we both know all the above means little to you. And with that, I've got nothing further to add.

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#241399 Old Trafford Lounge
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Looks like Darren Fletcher is off to West Ham.

75k pw for 3 years or something, absolutely ridiculous.
#241391 Transfer Rumours 2014/15
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He'd have had the injuries and the attitude problems regardless of where he played.

Maybe so. But had he played his more natural role he could have turned in more consistent performances. Fergie basically took everything that made Anderson an exciting player (directness, flair, etc) and put a dampener on it. Even with his injuries, playing in a more advanced role would have still allowed him to utilise some of his skill sets, instead he was asked to be this tough tackling midfield general, everything he wasn't. Similar to how Fergie tried to turn Alan Smith into Roy Keane.
#241385 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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Costa banned for 3 games. Misses the City match

A bit rough when the FA cannot really prove there to be any intent in his actions. More so when you consider some of the other stuff that's gone unpunished during the year. I do have to laugh how the word "stamp" is used though, when in fact he's actually "trodden" on Can as he chases down the ball.

His "reputation" doesn't help, despite the fact I don't think he's ever been sent off in his career and gets an absolute work over by some defenders during games; including an elbow by Skrtel and then an immediate hip check by Lucas during the first leg that went unpunished.

I just hope Remy gets the start against City and not Drogba, while fingers crossed Cesc is passed fit.
#241144 Transfer Rumours 2014/15
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A couple good games here and there playing that role doesn't translate to him being suited to the position though. I always felt Fergie ruined him by persisting with his desire to play him in the midfield role he did, not the attacking free position he excelled in while at Porto.
#240526 Capital One Cup 2014/15
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Gotta love Costa (when he's on your side). Liverpool fans can't really be calling him out when Suarez was just as bad, if not worse, and was still defended. Not that I'm condoning what Costa did.

Glad to have bounced back from a shocking FA Cup result. Hopefully make the most of a couple of big games coming up which could really push us towards the title.
#239739 FA Cup 2014/15
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Also if Liverpool win this I don't think I could handle the Stevie Me love-in that will undoubtedly happen.
#239738 FA Cup 2014/15
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Woke up this morning and had to laugh, a depressing laugh.
#238948 Transfer Rumours 2014/15
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Not too sure why we'd offload Schurrle just yet, I'd rather sell Salah off first because he's more of a deadweight. Schurle's had a rough season with illness and poor form, but he's still a handy player when he fires. A good pre-season in the gym would help as well. Definitely need some more firepower though from the wider positions. Reus would be ideal, would also be happy with Cuardado or even Mirallas tbh. I think Mirallas would fit in very well.
#236681 Transfer Rumours 2014/15
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Wish we'd sign a centre back.

Part of me would have liked Kalas to find a Prem team to go out on loan with when he returned.
#235961 The Manchester City Thread
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This probably won't even be investigated by the FA. And I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see something like this happen again if it isn't. I can see Man City somewhat using NYCFC as a way to bring in older top level players on short term deals as a way to by-pass FFP, before actually linking up to play for the club they're supposedly signing for.

It's all too flakey.
#235958 Barclays Premier League 2014/15
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God, Chelsea were absolutely terrible for 55-60 minutes. Thankfully managed to get the 3 points and also have some other games go our way (ty Everton).
#235485 The Manchester City Thread
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Well when Lampard originally left Chelsea the reports were that he signed for New York. He then was meant to move to Melbourne City on loan except there was a rule change that came into place for this season in which loan players wages counted towards teams salary caps, so this meant no Lampard move there and eventually ending with him at Man City. Again, that's entirely fine. The move was listed as loan until the end of the year, in which he'd then head to NYCFC at the start of Jan. Then this whole extension has taken place. Which is where it makes things interesting because Lampard featured in a game that took place on Jan 1st, where no extension would have been possible to have been arranged for his deal that technically would have already ended. Now, the talk seems to suggest that he signed a 1 year deal with Man City, despite initially being revealed as signing for NYCFC on a 2 year deal and being used to promote all their media commitments and help sell season tickets. NYCFC then had to change this and use David Villa, which saw him being prematurely recalled from his Melbourne City guest stint loan after only playing in 4 of his possible 10 games.

Something doesn't add up because even during all Lampard's interviews it was said to be a loan move. Now all that's been backtracked upon and has even been removed from some sources that had it listed.