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This is a bug that is present in the current version(s) of the FM24 Data Update. We are aware and are taking active steps to troubleshoot and resolve ASAP. Please keep an eye on the following thread for updates - I will be sure to announce once we make progress in resolving: https://sortitoutsi.net/comments/get/853297.

Please rest assured you are not doing anything wrong at your end - we'll get it tackled.

Just to acknowledge - I am aware of the reported issues with the FM24 Data Update at present. Have been really busy this week and not been able to troubleshoot.

I am in the process of cataloguing the errors and seeing what I can directly replicate and then I'll ensure we work to resolve the bugs. I'm using this message as an acknowledgement but also a point-in-time placeholder to refer myself back to, if needed.

As best I can tell, we appear to have issues with:

• significantly spiked player count (seemingly triggered by the use of the ‘Player Attributes’ file)
• widespread, over-inflated wages and market values of many players
• possibly still issues with non-playing staff roles not being correctly set

Please rest assured, the staff team will work to resolve the issues we can replicate/identify ASAP.

Looking at your account, you have only ever purchased Premium Membership which does not include the Enhanced Data Update - nor has it ever in the past.

I would not expect you to have had access to the FM24 enhanced update, either, TBH. I have only quickly scanned your download history but the versions of the FM24 update i saw were all instances of the free one.

Looking at your product order history, I see that you have an active Premium Membership - which gives access to faster downloads - but not an active Enhanced Update subscription. It appears to have expired on 23rd October 2025, which would explain why you don’t currently have access.

I am pretty sure this is a bug - will look to get it troubleshot / tackled ASAP.

There is nothing published. But this site does many of the concepts you mention to enable the update. So tagging @Footygamer so you have a chance to get some technically-astute advice.

Submissions are open and, in fact, the FM24 Data Update is now live again.

FM26 Data Update is not yet live but anything submitted will be integrated when it goes live.

There is no option to control transfer status unfortunately - even in the PGE itself, I’m pretty sure.

This falls under the umbrella of ‘how the AI handle their squads’. Relative ability and reputation versus the rest of the squad are likely to be the overarching drivers behind how those players are perceived by the AI managers.

You will have the option of downloading the free version of the Data Update…however, for the enhanced version you will need to make a separate payment. To see the free version you may need to scroll down past the prompts re: the paid version (or it may be over on the right…I don’t recall).

The Premium Membership and Enhanced Data Update are two separate products.

Premium Membership is purely about providing faster, direct downloads. Whilst the Enhanced Data Update provides the version of the Data Update that includes updated CA/PA values for various players.

You may want to get the free version for now and verify you generally like the update/coverage it provides before deciding to invest in the enhanced version. Right at the moment, the FM26 Data Update is still being prepared so everything I’m referring to is more relevant for FM24 at this time. Anyone who does subscribe to the enhanced update, though, will also get access to the FM26 version as part of that subscription once it goes live (any day now).

The exact method of abilities - whether to take FM26 as ‘the version’ or to take the FM24 Data Update as ‘the version’ or some hybrid is still being finalised.

Personally, I like the idea of there being a hybrid where the FM26 version is ‘one opinion’ and is factored in alongside the community-submitted values…but I think for now we need to let the site admin focus on getting it functional.

I think it is unlikely, now; given the time of day and the timezones that Footygamer operates on.

There was an attempted go-live earlier but it had to be pulled due to some technical issues. So we will need to be a little patient on the FM26 Data Update.

For what it’s worth - you’re not alone in wanting the accuracy! There’s a few of us staff members who are keen to make the newly-created players as accurate as possible. Suffice to say it’s lots of work, but it’s an ever-improving dataset.

I’m pretty sure the same download works equally irrespective of game version.

Further down the page, there is a link to the FM24 update - under ‘Data updates for older games’.

For your convenience, the following is a direct link:

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/fm24-transfer-update 

The issue here is that you’re trying to ‘open’ the file at all.

This is a file intended to be downloaded and then placed into the relevant folder to be read/interpreted by the game. Rather than try to open/run the file, you need to open the folder it downloads into and copy it into the right place. Then start the game accordingly.

Its not really an issue with the browser, nor the download process - but just a user error; and I don’t mean that in a nasty way.

I can confirm that, 100%, the updates will continue for Football Manager 2024. In fact, part of the reason for the pause is to allow for all of the data-flows to be set up so that updating a player enables that submission to flow into both the FM 24 and FM 26 updates, seamlessly.

Whether or not the FM 26 ratings of players (i.e. CA/PA) will be synchronised ‘back in’ to the FM 24 update, I am unsure at this stage. But the staff are discussing the best method to ensure there is a single, consolidated, updated dataset that is then made available to players of both FM 26 and FM 24.

On the first question - the Data Update was paused on 21st October 2025 (I'm pretty sure), so I would take that as a cut-off date. Anything from that date onwards is worth a lookup and re-submission.

Yes - agreed. It's appearing for me and must've appeared at some point in the last few hours.

Can confirm that the opening post's advice is now accurate so anyone who couldn't find it before should search again.

The latest version of the FM24 Data Update should have no issues with newly-created players appearing. Certainly, there is no fundamental issue in the latest version - I suspect there is some other reason for players not appearing in your save.

I have just started a new game with the latest version of the Data Update and specifically looked for Karetsas & Mokio and both appear as expected.

Happy to troubleshoot with you - as a starting point, can you confirm:

1. What ‘Editor Data’ files you are using in the save in which they are not appearing? Are you only using the SortItOutSI Data Update, or are you using other files as well? Are you sure you are enabling the relevant files? Do you see evidence of transfers being updated?

2. What game setup you have made (i.e. what size database, which leagues activated, etc). This has a bearing on which players will actively be loaded.

If you run a database that is too small and/or do not have the leagues in which these players are based activated, they may not end up being loaded into the game.

As best I can tell - and this would line up with Google search results and posts on other forums: it simply hasn't been released on the Microsoft Store. I am hoping it'll appear any-day-now, but I am just speculating.

I think everyone is entitled to their opinion - and it isn't for me to say whether one person is right, or wrong. However, objectively speaking - this site provides access to pretty much all of its content for free. That includes long-established, community-driven and accurately-moderated graphics megapacks, as well as (almost certainly) the most complete Data Update around, in terms of accuracy and breadth.

Again, to be clear, that is all available for free. The paid Premium Membership is about supporting the site's running costs as far as providing downloads go. Those various megapacks are many gigabytes in size and the scale of this site's community mean that if everyone was downloading those and all of the updates, the site owner would be bankrupted. Why is it somehow inappropriate to provide an option for a paid product to provide the convenience/enhanced speed for downloading for those unwilling to wait?

If other sites can afford to provide that sort of download capability for free, then fair play to them - but someone, somewhere, is underwriting that cost.

As an objective example on FMSite, I don't think they offer a Data Update at all. I do sometimes wonder if people realise quite how much organisation and effort goes into maintaining a Data Update that covers the whole world. The Site Owner, here, is continuously working to process data, update the website front end, churn out the database and ensure that everything is integrated from the community-driven front-end of the website through to the plug-and-play Data Update available for (again, free) download to the masses.

There are two different paid products that can be purchased through the site. One is the Premium Membership (which is what you have already subscribed to) and the other is the Enhanced Data Update.

Just to clarify the content/distinction:

The Premium Membership gives access to faster downloads from our servers rather than having to use free mirrors.

The Enhanced Data Update is a version of the Data Update that includes everything the free version does, plus updated CA/PA values for many players, as well as providing an updated file every 20 minutes (i.e. near-real-time) which includes some dynamism between instances to keep things fresh in-game. By comparison, the free version releases once a day.

It is important to note that right now all versions of the Data Update are in a pause status owing to the very recent release of FM 26 - and once that pause is released (anticipated to be at the end of this week), versions of the Data Update will be offered for both FM 26 and FM 24.

Both products (Premium Membership and Enhanced Data Update) have a cost of £10 for a 12-month period and operate on an ‘annual subscription’ basis. It is not a site error as they are separate products. Both have ‘free’ alternatives - and it is entirely your choice whether you subscribed to one, both or neither.

That is, in fact, an incorrect assumption, I'm afraid. It was true once upon a time but not any more - in fact, other than a brief period shortly after the introduction of the ‘new players’ concept, they have been integrated into the main body of the update.

You'll note that the ‘New Players' file is actually tiny in size. It's just an ‘empty’ container file that has been kept in to make it easier for those getting the latest update, for the first time since some time ago, to overwrite their previously-installed version.

In reality, the newly-created players are integrated into the main sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - Contracts.fmf file. This file contains the newly-created players as well as all of the transfers/changes to players in the vanilla/default database. They're integrated into a single file for technical reasons and because of how the overall update is generated. At this time, there is no separate/standalone file that provides only the new players. It is possible that in the future there will be a ‘modularity’ to what the downloaded Data Update can consist of (i.e. the ability to specify if you want new players, or not, for example), but not at this time (and there is no firm timeline, or even guarantee, for that ‘modular’ approach I mentioned).

Just to confirm: in terms of how things should work - files uploaded by members of the community, as attachments to their posts, should not be restricted from being downloaded by other community members in any way. There should be free mirrors available for any such download. Please consider this a bug at this time.

In the meantime, I would advise anyone affected not to buy Premium Membership simply to download these kinds of files. The Premium Membership is intended to grant access to faster downloads of the larger, wider-community-managed graphical downloads that are ‘officially’ hosted by this website (e.g. the megapacks available via https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics).

I have flagged to the Site Admin that we believe this is happening. I have been able to replicate using a test account without Premium Membership - my suspicion is that this is a bug affecting community-uploaded downloads of a certain filesize only (but that is a best-guess at this stage).

That is a different topic altogether - in simple terms, there's no way to start the game ‘further forward’ in a way that allows everything else to be configured in the way you'd want.

The game engine starts the game from 2023. You can use certain ‘custom start date’ files to select a start date further in the future (and some of those do go, for example, up to Summer 2025 which would replicate starting in the ‘current’ season in European leagues). But there's a drawback - which is that the game will simulate things for the intervening period of two years - so, using the SortItOutSI Data Update, you'd find that transfers have been simulated, league seasons have taken place and been simulated, with corresponding promotions/relegations.

The SortItOutSI Data Update's approach to tackle this problem is to accept the in-game start date is 2023 and offset everything else by two years - so that 2023 in-game is a reflection of 2025 in real-life.

What I mean by that is that if you start in July 2023 in (for example) England, the ‘England’ you will find has teams in the divisions they should be in for 2025/26, along with transfers updated to ‘present day’. Ultimately, this is the way that most people like to play. Players' ages are offset by two years, too, so that the age a player is in-game in 2023 matches his real-life 2025 age. Likewise, the player's club contract is offset by two years, so a player with two years left on his contract in July 2025 in real-life will have two years left on his contract in-game in July 2023.

As I say, the general concept is to reflect the ‘footballing world’ in an up-to-date status, accepting an in-game start date of 2023 (because that's the bit that is hardcoded). If you cycle the start date forward, you have to make concessions about what else will be accurate.

Are you using the the sortitoutsi.net FM24 Data Update - Player History.fmf file? Based on your screenshot I think it is probably like that you are. If so, you can expect this to take a long time to be processed/loaded - specifically this initial step of ‘Loading database’ that appears to take a long time to progress beyond a very small amount of the progress bar. The file itself adds 3,000,000+ database records and causes the initial loading to take a lot, lot longer. On the plus side, this is a one-off time investment - once the game is loaded, there is no degraded performance nor longer period of time to save/load a saved game.

The options for this file are either to (a) wait it out or (b) simply not use it. What you will lose by not using it is simply that player histories are not included that reflect the last two real-life years of performance. There is no massive gameplay implication - it is more about immersion and having players have the right statistics around games played/goals scored/clubs they have played for.

If you are not using this file, then it would be good to get a screenshot of your ‘editor data’ folder and/or the enabled files, so we can see if there is some other cause. One other common cause of the game not loading is overlapping ‘dynamic data’ (but this would only be a factor if you are using the enhanced data update).

This is not a fault related to the Real Name Fix - the purpose of the Real Name Fix is to adjust the written display names (i.e. text values).

The issue you are experiencing relates to the graphical elements and is a widely-reported issue. There are certain game items (clubs, etc) that share UIDs and this causes issues with the graphics being read and displayed.

There are numerous threads discussing this issue, including the following one (for example): https://sortitoutsi.net/content/74689/fm26-logos-clear-cache. There is no specific, widespread, magic ‘fix’ - though there are ways to work around it, mainly by removing certain (less popular) logos that are causing these UID clashes. The overall advice is to wait for a fix from Sports Interactive.

As this kind of sharing isn't allowed, nor encouraged, just doing a bit of housekeeping and closing this thread.

I would say that, at this time, that remains a realistic date - yes. I wouldn't consider it a guarantee, though - but given that the estimate comes from the person responsible for enabling it (and doing all of the hard work behind the scenes), I would say it is a trustworthy estimate.

I am sure there will be a clear notification on the site once the update does go live for FM26.

Those having this issue are very likely in the same position as many others - it is because there are (in FM26) multiple game items, of different types, that share a UID with each other. The following thread - and in particular, the post I'm linking below, summarises it best:

https://sortitoutsi.net/comments/get/845252