Poe
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he has definitely improved to some degree aye. But there was a period of about 10 minutes in the City game where it seemed like gravity was just too much for him and that was pretty frustrating to watch. But annoyingly it seems to be a part of the game now with the whole 'anticipating contact' debate, its definitely one of my biggest annoyances when watching football.

and as much as I hate to say it Liverpool do deserve the title, regardless of decisions. They could get a bunch of horrible decisions next season, these things happen.


Against City and Sunderland recently he should have been sent off for diving as he done it about 4-5 times in the same match.
SpinSwimScream
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Aye i know about the City match that one was as plain as day that he should have been off. I cant comment on the Sunderland match as I never saw it but I wouldn't say I am surprised.
Slashman X
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How on earth have you read that post and come to the conclusion thats what I was saying?


I don't remember referring to you at all
Croy
14 years ago
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Suarez is a diving cunt and I hate him for that.

When he returned from the 6 games ban he was on the goal scoring business and not the diving one (with little exceptions). As of late he is back to his diving antics and he is less about scoring goals.

The man is a god with the ball when he stays on his feet (a big WHEN here).
Number 1
17 years ago
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He's been better this season with diving but still does it from time to time.
Shola
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'Everything evens itself out' is one of my least favourite football cliches because its patently not true. Take this adjusted table from a season or two ago and then disregard everything it says, except for the fact that it clearly shows that some teams will over the course of a season benefit more than others.


Thank you. Why do people believe this and believe that luck will even it self out in the exact same way.

I remember a couple of seasons ago

Larsson handled the ball on the line against Newcasle (Newcastle won 1-0)
Gosling handled in the box against Everton (Newcastle won 2-1)
Everton were awarded a ghost penalty (Osman airkicked and fell over with no Sunderland player near him) (Everton won 1-0)

Luck has evened itself out but;
Newcastle gained (+2) points
Everton gained (+1) point
Sunderland lost (-1) point
Carroll.
15 years ago
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Naah it evens itself out. Mistakes and luck is part of the game
bluemoon.
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Naah it evens itself out. Mistakes and luck is part of the game

No, it doesn't. All sides experience mistakes and luck but that doesn't mean it evens out.

Stop talking bullshit.
Carroll.
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If you want to blame you not winning the league on luck etc then be my guest
Poe
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It's not that it evens itself out - there's no team thats inherently more "lucky" than another.

People will obviously finish better or worse off.
bluemoon.
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If you want to blame you not winning the league on luck etc then be my guest

Stop putting words in my mouth, you cunt. That wasn't my point at all. If we don't win the league it'll be because of a combination of a number of factors: Too many losses early in the season, way too many injuries, consistent lapses in concentration in key games and Liverpool's ridiculous winning streak.

None of that though has anything to do with the idea that luck evens itself out. An idea which is complete bollocks.
Carroll.
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Touchy. And when youre constantly bringing up how we have luck on our side then I will assume youre blaming your lack of luck
The Platypus
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Shut up Carroll.
bluemoon.
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Touchy. And when youre constantly bringing up how we have luck on our side then I will assume youre blaming your lack of luck

I don't remember 'constantly' saying you have luck on your side. Why would you make that assumption anyway? They're completely unrelated.


Also this.
Carroll.
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Touch of genius, again.
Slashman X
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How do you guys feel about Rodgers saying he "would never play that way" when asked about Chelsea's defending?

Would ye have not have preferred to go for a draw and win the league rather than end up (maybe) losing it because of stubbornness?
Crane
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We lost it because of a slip. Before that, while we were attacking, Chelsea didn't pose an goal threat in the slightest. Obviously then in the second half we had to go for it.
.verse
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We lost it because of a slip. Before that, while we were attacking, Chelsea didn't pose an goal threat in the slightest. Obviously then in the second half we had to go for it.

Maybe true, for all the possession you had, you didn't really look like scoring though either. A lot of it was just pot shots from distance. The goal before the half suited how Chelsea were wanting to play and forced Liverpool into really pushing forward and ultimately allowed a second to be conceded.
Crane
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I wouldn't really have cared if we didn't score and you didn't either tbh.
Ninja
15 years ago
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How do you guys feel about Rodgers saying he "would never play that way" when asked about Chelsea's defending?

Would ye have not have preferred to go for a draw and win the league rather than end up (maybe) losing it because of stubbornness?


Do people believe him?

I think its bitterness and the pressure getting to him a bit, but I don't think he is as stubborn or naive as that implies. Liverpool will play similarly in Europe at times or they'll get torn to shreds, Rodgers knows that.
King Luis
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We used to do it in Europe when we had a lead to protect but Mourinho seems to do it when its 0-0, its pretty baffling at times.
Poe
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I really don't understand when managers slate other's tactics after they've just been beaten by them. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Rodgers actually came out and said "We were the only team trying to win" - well if you look at it that way Chelsea have just beaten you without even trying. Go figure.
King Luis
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I really don't understand when managers slate other's tactics after they've just been beaten by them. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Rodgers actually came out and said "We were the only team trying to win" - well if you look at it that way Chelsea have just beaten you without even trying. Go figure.


Ive not seen the game but from what ive read if Gerrard hadn't slipped Chelsea could still be playing now and not score?
Ninja
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Ive not seen the game but from what ive read if Gerrard hadn't slipped Chelsea could still be playing now and not score?


Doesn't really make sense though, because when Chelsea got the goal they wanted they didn't need to try and you weren't good enough to break them down.
Poe
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But Gerrard did slip and Chelsea scored.

They then scored again due to quite frankly ridiculous defending. (diving in when the only man in a 2on1 situation.)
Slashman X
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They also had at least 2 more chances of 1-on-1 situations if Ba got his head up
The Platypus
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Also, if Kalas had any sort of heading ability we would've scored from that corner kick where he floated past the ball, wide open.

We can talk "what if's" forever, but what good does that do.
.verse
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Ive not seen the game but from what ive read if Gerrard hadn't slipped Chelsea could still be playing now and not score?

We did have a few good attacking chances.

- Kalas with a free header from a corner that he completely missed and really should have buried.
- Ba kicking the ball into Cole on a counter attack while trying to pass through to WIllian (iirc).
- Schurrle who would have been more or less clean through on a counter attack had Ba not passed the ball behind him. Those were a couple of really good chances we fluffed.

We might not have directly tested the keeper but there were a couple of good breaks made which should have resulted in more. Thankfully we also took a chance Gerrard presented on a plate, and once again at the end with Torres and Willian.

Edit: Beaten to it ha.
Based Jorge
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Liverpool never looked threatening at all. As Mourinho's being stated as saying before, increased possession = increased chances of errors and mistakes. This style of football is only temporary, this is a very transitional period for Chelsea and I'll be surprised if they play the same way next season.

Is it considered bold yet to think that Liverpool will finish fourth next season? Having to actually play more than one game a week will be a major issue. Surely Brendan Rodgers is smart enough to know he needs to bring in quite a few players of decent quality for rotation & cover; not Aspas and Moses.

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