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Ninja
I really don't think the B League is anywhere near as offensive an idea as people are trying to make out.
Sam
Ninja
Yeah but you've made all of those up.
Sam
Mr Wenger spot on here:
TheClassicK
I'm also not familiar with the level of competition in League 1 and League 2, so does anyone know if those B teams would compete and promote within those leagues?
Ninja
Only if you define the conference as the lowest league in England, but if you adopt the definition we've been using since time immemorial the league 3 would be the lowest football league and, as a result of its creation, 10 non-league teams would become football league clubs.
Shola
Their views on B-sides.
The B-side league seems to me the most inoffensive suggestion?
Surely for Nuneaton etc. the idea of playing against Man Utd-B would be the biggest game of the year, playing against the likes of Pogba and Januzaj? Certainly different from playing Hyde or Solihull Moors.
That said would Man Utd be too happy about exposing their players into a horrible league, with less protection?
Jason
Ninja
Isn't this what the Next Gen thing already is?
Telegram Sam
If I was a Nuneaton fan I'd rather see my side play every league match against a proper club, with proper fans and a history, than some reserve side from one of the big clubs. It ruins the integrity of the league.
There's a reason why an overwhelmingly huge majority of fans of the lower leagues do not want this to happen - it's bad for them and it's bad for the league. It should not happen, and the only way you can justify it is if you really believe it will benefit the national team and furthermore, that improving the national side is worth butchering the lower divisions.
Franck
Telegram Sam
There's such an arrogance to this notion that football-deprived fans of the likes of Barnet and Torquay would eagerly circle the date on their calendars where they get to face off against the Aston Villa reserves, as if the Premier League is somehow doing them a favour by gracing their league with some sort of presence. This whole proposal is rotten to the core, and the fact that the FA - guardians of the national game, supposedly - are going to try and convince the Premier League clubs to bribe the lower league teams is disgusting. They know that they need the money and are effectively exploiting them.
If they want to make a difference to the national side this is such a bad way to do it.
Deano
Slashman X
If the B teams are actually good, that means they should fill the top spots in League 1 in no time.
The idea the 8th and 9th spot being promotion spots and 10th-14th being play-offs is just stupid
bmg033
Agreed. The whole bribery thing is a joke and is just another example of the FA showing a lack of respect to lower league teams. It sums up the way football in this country has gone, just throw money at everything and hope it works.
Dyke mentions that their research goes back 20 years to 1994 when there was 69% English starters in the Premier League. He seems to think that just by having more players, that the England team will get better. Well, if he'd researched properly, he'd notice that 20 years ago England failed to qualify for the 1994 World Cup. Surely its not about having more players, but having better players and better coaches?
I still feel that this would help the bigger teams a bit, but only the bigger teams, which is wrong. There are ways of improving the English game and this certainly isn't it.
Slashman X
Ninja
Because of cost, rather than because of ineffective results.
bmg033
bluemoon.
Unfortunately UEFA basically forced NextGen to end so that they could start their own inferior version.
Number 1
I don't see it being implemented because its just unworkable and encourages player hoarding. At the moment, Chelsea have 30 players of a variety of nationalities out on loan and they're never going to use all of them in the first team squad as they have the money to buy the best players which begs the question "what is the fucking point?"
This arrangement as well where "a new strategic loan partnership system that would allow clubs to loan up to eight players to a single Football League side and retain more control over them" is also bizarre, as it means Premier League teams can have B and essentially a C team.
bmg033
About 6 or 7 players went from Spurs to Swindon this season, half of them on loan. The others i'd imagine have some sort of buy back clause. There is the proof that these "new strategic loan partnerships" aren't new at all. The FA showing once again that they know sweet FA.
Number 1
The article I red said that the deal between Spurs and Swindon is the nearest to a so called "footballing nursery", so its more of a unique arrangement in English clubs.
Not so much with the Chelsea-Vitesse arrangement, though I'm pretty sure part of that is primarily set up to dodge work permit regulations.
Ninja
Tbf, I would imagine that the 'new strategic loan partnerships' are actually the most offensive thing to individual fans, but I guess that would involve most fans reading more in depth to find out whats being suggested rather than being outraged by a hashtagable headline.
Jason
Helps both the Premier League Youngsters and the Lower League Clubs, sounds a better idea than this rubbish they've mustered up.
One Night In Grimsby
If we think that somehow Mansfield v Liverpool B is going to make England win the world cup then we have truly lost the plot.
Making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Fuckin premier league. Sign the petition if you haven't already, 26000 signatures so far. Link on the first page.
terriersmad
How is a B-team league going to solve this at all? All it will do is ruin the pyramid.
It is worth pointing out that the panel has made other, much more sensible suggestions. But those are being overshadowed by this ridiculous proposal. It says it all when the Premier League, Football League, and Football Conference are all dead set against it. Even Scudamore has spoken out against it!
Ninja
Literally no one thinks that or is saying that.
Jason
So after a few seasons agains Mansfield, that player is gonna be good enough for Liverpools first team, how? It makes no sense, the player would still be untested at Premier League level and much older.
Ninja
Maybe not, but the point is that League 1 football is a damn sight more competitive than U21 football, which clubs frequently bemoan their players have out grown far before they're ready to play first team football.
Shola
Issue with the PL is that there is so much money involved, it seems to be getting very hard for young players (who aren't exceptional) to break through. For example it would be easy for a PL club to sign back up players for a couple of £M rather than risk fielding an inexperienced young player.
This system will also allow big clubs to have more control over the development of young players, ie forge chemistry between young players, and set a club playing style, where as with loans there is always a risk of a young player wasting 6 months with an unsuccessful loan spell.
Not saying I agree with the proposals or think it will necessarily be a success, but resisting on the grounds of tradition seems absolutely idiotic.
All the traditionalists shed tears whenever a small club goes out of business, I'm sure.