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Vercoe
Which may happen more often if these B teams come into effect.
Ninja
Why?
One Night In Grimsby
No one will turn up to watch any B team. No fans through the turnstiles = no money = no club.
Jason
The half decent youngsters are already going out on loan to league 1/2 clubs anyway, Connor Coady England u20s Captain, had a brilliant season with us this year.. surely if clubs made links with League One and Two sides it'd solve the problem.
Chuks Aneke from Arsenal on loan at Crewe in League One this season is another, represented England at all levels except u21... i don't see how a new B league solves anything, if anything it makes things worse for the lower clubs.
Vercoe
Exactly. Lower league teams can't pull in £500m sponsorship deals and rely mostly on income generated primarily through ticket sales. Who the hell would turn up to watch Hull B, and how many away fans would they bring? Not a lot I'd imagine.
I suppose another way would be these B teams taking the spots higher up in the leagues, which equals higher prize money, because they have better players, meaning the other clubs get less than they may have before with a better chance of finishing higher.
Ninja
I don't think its as big a problem as made out. Especially as there is talk that as Premier League clubs want good facilities a pot will be created to improve facilities, which should mean clubs financially benefit from the loss of away fans.
And really, I say away fans, because does it matter if you're playing Luton or Aston Villa B's? Its a league game involving your club it will matter, do you really go to watch the opposition? I appreciate that there are some games that some fans care about more than others and I appreciate that the B sides will be very low down on that list but if people can't be bothered to go and watch their club when they're not playing rivals then thats a bigger problem than the B sides.
Besides, it will eventually spread out across the leagues, the stronger academies will rise up to league 1, a few will end up in league 2, some will stay in league 3, some will probably even get relegated.
I'd speculate with 90% certainty that B teams would be entitled to no prize money whatsoever.
Yes, but the reason that the idea has been mooted is that clearly there is a reluctance between the trade off of game time, versus giving a player to a club with no control over coaching, selection, and having to use inferior facilities. Connor Coady, for example, will benefit from having a good season, but the point of his being at your club was to benefit you, those two goals aren't necessarily always aligned for a B team they would be.
The other alternative the 'strategic loan bollocks' or whatever its called, gets around this by giving PL clubs greater control over the 'up to 8' players they're loaning out, including over tactics, selection, and coaching, according to the report. Is it really better to see Stockport County turned in to Manchester City B's in everything but name rather than just having a B side that doesn't piss on other sides heritage?
Slashman X
BR.
Without wanting to look too far ahead, just wait until the top teams' academies are winning League 1, the pressure will be so strong for them to be allowed promotion to the Championship that the inevitable will then probably happen.
Ninja
We'll obviously see, but I think you're probably over estimating how good these sides will be, sure there will be players that will be better than the League 1 standard, but I doubt there will be an entire team good enough to push a team into the championship and i doubly doubt that there's enough good english players to create teams (plural) that are that good.
Jason
Vercoe
I'd agree, but then you could end up, in a perhaps radical but plausible situation in League One, where the top however many (let's say 10) teams are B teams, who can't be promoted, so the eleventh placed team will go up as champions with the prize money to boot.
How the hell does that work?
Shola
Yep, think this would be a big issue. And I doubt that the really top clubs would be interested in having B teams.
Number 1
But its moot anyway - the bigwigs at the PL, FL and Conference are all against the B-team premise, and unless they can be convinced, I don't think that part's gonna happen. There's other stuff that might work if implemented, but that B-team one is the headline grabbing figure and also its most unwrokable aspect.
Sam
Great news, big step.
Vercoe