SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
2 months ago
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yeah Muller would have been my vote, theres a few in the German team who have been better than Messi throughout
Franck
18 years ago
1 week ago
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I've given it to James. But yeah, Messi getting it is totally down to reputation rather than performance.
Number 1
17 years ago
1 year ago
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Aye - James and Muller were more worth winners than Messi, who has gone missing since the Round of 16 game.

I think Argentina could've won it if only Higuain and Palacio had been accurate, and Aguero wasn't more interested in kicking the shit out of Schweinstiger. But I suppose Germany have been better throughout and got the desired rewards.
SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
2 months ago
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David Luiz in team of the tournament too
Eric Portapotty
15 years ago
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.verse
13 years ago
1 year ago
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No surprise Messi picking up an award and getting his ass licked once more, despite being incredibly average throughout the tournament.

Definitely feel there were more worthy winners.
George14brfc
13 years ago
4 years ago
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David Luiz in team of the tournament too

surely not?
Eric Portapotty
15 years ago
1 month ago
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One thing I'll say about the final is that Draxler's girl is ace.

If you end up watching the game, and it turns out to be shit then you'll be banned immediately.

1v1 me irl m8
NiceLad
18 years ago
1 week ago
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No surprise Messi picking up an award and getting his ass licked once more, despite being incredibly average throughout the tournament.

Definitely feel there were more worthy winners.

Its an Adidas sponsored award, he was always going to win it. Wasn't even the best player for his country, it's made the award look a bit pointless
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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All the previous winners have been Adidas sponsored too, athough slightly less contentious than Messi winning this year
KEZ_7
18 years ago
3 weeks ago
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Pretty sure Muller and Rodriguez are both Adidas players?
bmg033
10 years ago
2 weeks ago
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Pretty sure Muller and Rodriguez are both Adidas players?

But Messi is no doubt paid a lot more money by Adidas and is their main man when it comes to advertising football clothing. No way they'd let anyone else win it.

Messi wasn't even the best Argentina player at the tournament. I'd say that Neuer, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Mascherano, Robben and Rodriguez were all ahead of him in my opinion.

Also, David Luiz has to win the award for most entertaining. His 'defending' was truly exceptional.
Samirah
16 years ago
6 months ago
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IF an Argentinian had to win the Golden Ball for the tournament, it should've been Mascherano. He was just about single-handedly responsible for keeping Argentina in the game against the Netherlands and he was pretty much responsible for keeping Germany from scoring early. Actually Demichelis played much better than Messi throughout the tournament.

But I'd say Müller would've been my pick for the Golden Ball, with Robben and Rodriguez being second. Of course, I have to ask how Romero was up for the Golden Glove considering that other than the semifinal, he didn't do anything. Ochoa and Howard performed far better than him. But Neuer got it (to be honest, I have no beef with that since he is likely the best goalkeeper in the world). My best goalkeepers this year would've been Neuer, Navas, Howard, Ochoa and Cillisen (spelling?).

But I am just happy that Germany won. Germany is the team. They play like a team, not a bunch of individuals. And Boateng was brilliant yesterday. Just saying.
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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Messi wasn't average this tournament btw - he was fucking awesome until about the quarter finals.

He was involved in something stupid like 80% of the runners up of the tournaments goals.

People expect too much.
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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Messi wasn't average this tournament btw - he was fucking awesome until about the quarter finals.

He was involved in something stupid like 80% of the runners up of the tournaments goals.

People expect too much.


This. Didn't deserve the award though
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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Nah, Mascherano did.

But still Messi was definitely in the top 5 players in the tournament.
.verse
13 years ago
1 year ago
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Nah, Mascherano did.

But still Messi was definitely in the top 5 players in the tournament.

Wouldn't have even had in amongst top 10 to be perfectly honest.

Kroos
James Rodriguez
Muller
Neymar
Robben
Hummels
Neuer
Rojo
De Vrij
K. Navas

All had better overall tournaments, along with a few others I could have thrown in. Messi was made to look better than what he actually was because people would continuously reference to how he never scored in the World Cup before, once he did, everyone jumped on the wagon.
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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I'll reference the fact that Messi scored or assisted around 80% of the runners up of the tournaments goals.

Messi was phenomenal in the group stages, definitely the best performer. He lacked the same spark in the later knockout rounds but had more than an average tournament. Way more.
Ninja
15 years ago
7 years ago
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I don't think Messi played particularly well in the group stages, he was just crazy productive.
.verse
13 years ago
1 year ago
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I'll reference the fact that Messi scored or assisted around 80% of the runners up of the tournaments goals.

Messi was phenomenal in the group stages, definitely the best performer. He lacked the same spark in the later knockout rounds but had more than an average tournament. Way more.

He scored 4 goals and had a single assist. The whole 80% is such a warped and misleading "stat" to use.

Not hard to contribute to such a high percentage when your team only scored 8 goals for the entire tournament. He was lucky that the defence was exceptionally solid throughout.

Clearly our definition of "phenomenal" and "best performer" differs, he was neither for the tournament or his own team. Which I believe you agreed that Mascherano was Argentina's best player. I find it hard to be phenomenal and still not be deemed your sides best performer.

Obviously we all have a different opinion regarding how good, or sub-par Messi was, hoses for course.
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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I just think many expect way too much from him.

He is the best in the world so I suppose it's expected.

4 goals and an assist in a World Cup is not "sub-par" by anyone other than a completely unreasonable person's estimation.
.verse
13 years ago
1 year ago
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I just think many expect way too much from him.

He is the best in the world so I suppose it's expected.

4 goals and an assist in a World Cup is not "sub-par" by anyone other than a completely unreasonable person's estimation.

His stats aren't the tell all though. His general performances weren't that great, much like the rest of the Argentine forwards, what he did manage to do was pop up and score a couple important goals. I certainly wouldn't consider his overall World Cup display as anything more than average though. He wasn't the only highly rated player that under performed or didn't quite deliver what had been anticipated; Ronaldo and Hazard for example.

He'll be 31 at the next World Cup, which given the way he plays I don't think he'll have the impact like he does now. His game is built largely around his pace and ability to get past opponents, depending how his body holds up between now and then this may have been his greatest chance of showcasing himself at the highest peak.
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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His game is based on him being fucking awesome at everything. He'll be just fine when he hasn't got any pace as he's one of the best passers of the ball in the world.

A "couple important goals" in World Cup matches are pretty big things, tbf.

Average
Croy
14 years ago
1 month ago
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I'm just glad Argentina didn't win... could you imagine the amount of Messi dick sucking even if he hadn't done nothing the entire Final? Or God forbid if he scored in the Final? He would have been named better than Jesus and put up on that statue near Maracana.
Carroll.
15 years ago
4 years ago
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I wish I could be as average
Croy
14 years ago
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Poe
18 years ago
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http://i60.tinypic.com/11jxbph.png

Baffled why people don't want to see him do well?

He's hardly a cunt on the pitch and very rarely dives.
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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Baffled why people don't want to see him do well?

He's hardly a cunt on the pitch and very rarely dives.


Because everyone licks his hole, which apparently is bad because why the fuck should people praise the greatest player in the world
Based Jorge
11 years ago
4 years ago
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Messi plays for Barca. That's enough reason to hate him.

As well as you know, booting balls into opposition fans as hard as he could and telling Sabella how to set out the team. He's very quietly egotistical. At least you know CR7's a cunt on the pitch.
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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Well in that case he should a manager, he got his team to the World Cup final using his instructions

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