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Ninja
Looking like its going to be a close run thing, despite the fact that Salmond is very obviously a charlton who doesn't really have a clue about what he can and can't do after independence.
Makes you wonder how convincingly a yes campaign would have won with a halfway competent leader who had some sense of a contingency plan rather than a pie in the sky idealist 'everything will be alright when we get rid of those English bastards (except from their TV, currency, services etc... basically everything but the name UK)' at the helm of the whole thing.
Jason
Flash.
Both the Yes and No sides have went about the referendum terribly. It's ridiculous that it's less than a week away and there's so many unanswered questions.
This (Labour MP's coming to Glasgow yesterday), however, is one of the best things that has ever happened:
Carroll.
Crane
K3V0
Ninja
If you believe Salmond it benefits Scotland because they get all the benefits of being in the UK without taking any of their share of the obligations. When anyone points out how that is complete bollocks and no one will let him do that he talks about how Britain are 'bullying' Scotland and surprisingly some people are dim enough to lap it up.
In reality its hard to say, the argument that Scotland is better off run by Scots is a bit wishy washy because it pretty much already is run by the Scots (and they pretty much ran the whole of Britain under the last Labour government) and will probably inevitably lead to higher taxes, the loss of the pound, no ability to enter the EU etc... but there will be concessions during negotiations.
Flash.
In the last election, only 1 out of the 51 seats in Scotland were conservative, yet we ended up with a conservative government. No matter how Scotland vote, it makes no difference, we have no say in what government we have.
Scotland is currently run by London, who don't have a clue about Scotland. It's a similar story for the north of England.
Ninja
If anything, Scotland is over-represented in the UK as Scottish MPs can vote on English domestic matters but not vice-versa.
edallen2
IF it is a note vote next week, the west lothian question will be answered. also scotland assembly will get tax raising powers which the barnett formula which funds scotland, wales and northern ireland will be scrapped or reduced for scotland therefore scotland will have to fend for itself in terms revenue to spend on student fees, free perscriptions etc.
There are a lot technical questions like currency, debt, taxes etc. which have not been answered, scotland will not get a currency union with the bank of england, they will end up buying the pound on so many pence on the pound like some countries do with the US Dollar but retain control of tax and inflation powers. Salmond only wants a currency union so that BOE and the exchequer will have to bail them out when he cocks it all up. The EU is having a freeze for the next 5 years on new members which scotland will be, also the freeze could be extended for another 5yrs.
I dont think scotland will be an independant country after next week's vote. It will be another 100yrs or so before it happens again, salmond wants the independance to through by may 2016 has there are elections and it will guarantee him being prime minister of scotland. No vote will mean there is no point of having SNP.
Franck
Ninja
Jason
George14brfc
Franck
After all the belittling talk from the no campaign I think a close result will only fire up the independence movement further. Quebec had a second independence referendum in 1995 only 15 years after the first one was defeated, I'd expect that a close no vote would lead to a second referendum in Scotland within a similar time frame. The independence question will not go away as long as the SNP remain a force in Scottish politics.
Ninja
I don't think anyones actually been belittling anyone, really, the NO votes 'bellittment' has basically been asking a lot of questions that need to be answered which Salmon has refused to do, whilst making out that his unwillingness or inability to answer is intimidatory tactics. There's definitely bad blood, theres always going to be in these sorts of scenarios and when one side on its extreme has people dim enough to be ardent nationalists its no surprise, but its mostly manufactured and I suspect will die out quickly when Salmond stops bleating about being bullied in lieu of actually creating workable policy.
Slashman X
Telegram Sam
This is what has annoyed me the most in recent weeks - it's gotten to the point that if anyone dares speculate the negative ramifications of a 'Yes' vote, they're immediately 'bullying' and 'belittling' the Scots. It's total bullshit because there are a number of important questions that need to be asked that unfotunately for the 'Yes' campaign don't have particularly welcoming answers.
Slashman X
Telegram Sam
Jan.
What can't you wait for?
Heart was racing and my hands were shaking as I crossed the yes box. Going to be devastated if it's a no.
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Tommo.
Deano
Shola
Hibee
I was at the count last night and was pretty surprised by how big the gap was in some of our areas as well as the country as a whole. I think Dundee was about the only place where Yes won comfortably, they scraped Glasgow but only by 30k or so votes and that was cancelled out by the Borders where Yes won by a similar number of votes despite it only having 80k or so papers.
Shola
Ninja
Telegram Sam
This. Losing Scotland would have made the UK and more far-right leaning nation.