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What's better than to start the thread with this video. Força Fluminense.

Also, it seems Ganso has changed clubs to São Paulo. Expecting some fishy third party involvement there.
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I read somewhere that Sao Paulo only have 38% of his rights which is slightly less than the 45% Santos had. It looks like DIS or another third pary bought up the rest.
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The sooner FIFA decide to get their heads out of their arses and stamp out on third party ownership the better.
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Aye it's really out of hand in places. There was a piece in the new World Soccer about the dodgy way transfers are carried out in Argentina (using a 3rd, "bridging club" from Uruguay to avoid tax payments) and it seems Independiente are bucking the trend and actually releasing accurate information on their transfer deals and player ownerships, turns out they have a few players where they own nothing and their entire rights are split between 3rd parties. I'd imagine that'll be quite common at other clubs too.
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By Hibee | Permalink | On 23 September 2012 - 10:44 AM
Aye it's really out of hand in places. There was a piece in the new World Soccer about the dodgy way transfers are carried out in Argentina (using a 3rd, "bridging club" from Uruguay to avoid tax payments) and it seems Independiente are bucking the trend and actually releasing accurate information on their transfer deals and player ownerships, turns out they have a few players where they own nothing and their entire rights are split between 3rd parties. I'd imagine that'll be quite common at other clubs too.

They're also one of the few clubs in Argentina to properly stand up against the barra bravas.

By Crane | Permalink | On 25 September 2012 - 16:13 PM
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/29/article-1325179014545-0F4A58B600000578-824645_466x593.jpg


To be fair, he has got thyroid issues. He is really fat, though.
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He's on a Brazilian version of Celebrity fit club - sad...
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By Crane | Permalink | On 25 September 2012 - 16:13 PM
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/29/article-1325179014545-0F4A58B600000578-824645_466x593.jpg


Fatter than I am!
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By Jonas | Permalink | On 29 November 2012 - 17:07 PM

Argentina?
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 29 November 2012 - 17:40 PM
Chile.

The kung-fu grandmaster is Argentine though, to the surprise of no-one.
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South American football is brilliant.



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Argieball is where it's at. Brazil's too European and Chile's been boring since La U started to crumble.
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By Franck | Permalink | On 22 September 2012 - 10:22 AM
The sooner FIFA decide to get their heads out of their arses and stamp out on third party ownership the better.


Disagree massively with this. Third party ownership can be a great thing in football, it actually keeps the domestic transfer market relatively inflation free. Also prevents clubs doing a Portsmouth and spending massively beyond their means.

By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 30 November 2012 - 08:44 AM
Argieball is where it's at. Brazil's too European and Chile's been boring since La U started to crumble.


Disagree with this too. Of the European leagues I've watched none come near Brazil. The Brazilian game is very counter attacking, nothing in Europe is like it.
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By Skacel | Permalink | On 02 December 2012 - 01:11 AM
Disagree massively with this. Third party ownership can be a great thing in football, it actually keeps the domestic transfer market relatively inflation free. Also prevents clubs doing a Portsmouth and spending massively beyond their means.

Disagree with this too. Of the European leagues I've watched none come near Brazil. The Brazilian game is very counter attacking, nothing in Europe is like it.

I didn't mean European in style. I meant European in terms of quality. It's easily the richest league in South America, the big teams have the money to bring in the best players from around South America - as well as the likes of Seedorf from Europe - I find that boring. I watch South American football for something different and, apart from Neymar, I find Brazilian football boring.

In other news, River have fucked off Matias Almeyda, and have brought in (former-Oxford United manager) Ramon Diaz to replace him.

Boca will be getting rid of Falcioni soon too.
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The Superclasíco is tonight, it'll probably be worth a watch. Neither side is great but Boca can't defend for shit so there should be goals.

Anybody watching?
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Copa Libertadores quarter final 1st leg is on now: Boca - Newell's Old Boys. Riquelme vs. Gabriel Heinze & Maxi Rodriguez.

Highlight so far being that the commentator most certainly has English as his second language.
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By Jonas | Permalink | On 24 May 2013 - 01:34 AM
Copa Libertadores quarter final 1st leg is on now: Boca - Newell's Old Boys. Riquelme vs. Gabriel Heinze & Maxi Rodriguez.

Highlight so far being that the commentator most certainly has English as his second language.

Was it that Brazilian guy who says 'he kiiicks it'? He's great fun.
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Haha yeah, him. Was amazed by his vocabulary and phrases. "Caceres what are you doing?" "He kiiiicks it with left leg".
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He's amazing. I believe he's Brazilian, his accent is so odd it barely sounds like English most of the time.
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Independiente are about to be relegated to the Argentine second division by River.
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It can only be a good thing that he's dead, unfortunately for him.
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Brazil-Argentina kicks off in a few minutes. It's on ITV4 if anybody's interested.
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Argentina look so much better than Brazil. Some hefty challenges going in as well.

I post that and then Brazil score
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Pretty dire game in the end. Argentina started pretty well but got more and more sloppy and disinterested as time went on.

No idea how Federico Fernández is still starting for Argentina either. He was terrible again.
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Why were they playing in China?

I can sort of understand when they play in Europe as the players are based here (even though its really a bit unfair on people in the countries) but there seems no logic to it being in China.
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Why were they playing in China?

I can sort of understand when they play in Europe as the players are based here (even though its really a bit unfair on people in the countries) but there seems no logic to it being in China.

Commercial reasons probably.

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