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By mr.SPANKY | Permalink | On 28 November 2012 - 04:08 AM
Are you one of those guys that enjoys movies that are so bad you can't help but watch? I too have seen Cobra more times then I care to announce and it is fucking horrible. As for Out for Justice anything with Steven Seagal is usually pretty horrible but I watch them because of him. Same can be said for Jean Claude he has made some absolute crap post 2002.

It's weird, my taste in those films varies. I genuinely believe Out for Justice is terrific because it's genuinely entertaining for the right and wrong reasons. Like William Forsythe is just a force of nature in that film, pure evil for the sake of evil. But then knowing what Seagal is like I just love this moment in time where everyone thought he was the business so they made a film where he was allowed to do what he wanted when he wanted. His character is called Gino Felino for fuck's sake.

With Cobra it's just terrible. Pure shit, but it has to be seen. It would die today, but that was a huge success at the time.

Then there's crap like Forest Warrior which is just stupid.

I love action films if they have humour in them or there's something more to the action, but terrible action is good if there's time to reflect on how awful the main character is. That's why I can't stand Chuck Norris films because he says nothing and it's just kicking and explosions. It's boring.
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Seeing as someone mentioned Van Damme, those of you who haven't seen JCVD need to go watch it ASAP.
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So The Master was even better a second time. Bobber what did you make of the ending?

Specifically Freddie and Lancaster's final meeting. I kinda took the whole film to be almost a romance story between the two of them, and the final meeting was Dodd almost telling Freddie to go and be free to save him from eventual trouble if he stayed with the Cause. Still not totally sure what the end scene with the girl was, but I think its probably him giving into his animal nature but at the same time using the things he learnt from Dodd to keep himself calm, or something. I'm still processing that one.

And Amy Adams character is still really intriguing to me. To me it seemed like she was the main driving force of the Cause, that she was the one who ultimately kept them pushing forward with Dodd being the charismatic 'poster boy' to see it through. A lot of layers and intensity in her performance.


Such a fucking good film, so rich in ideas and themes, I'm really glad I got to see it again. Wish I could have seen it on 70mm, bet it would have looked stunning. Love Greenwood's soundtrack too, it seems to shift and morph throughout.
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 28 November 2012 - 19:25 PM
So The Master was even better a second time. Bobber what did you make of the ending?

Specifically Freddie and Lancaster's final meeting. I kinda took the whole film to be almost a romance story between the two of them, and the final meeting was Dodd almost telling Freddie to go and be free to save him from eventual trouble if he stayed with the Cause. Still not totally sure what the end scene with the girl was, but I think its probably him giving into his animal nature but at the same time using the things he learnt from Dodd to keep himself calm, or something. I'm still processing that one.

And Amy Adams character is still really intriguing to me. To me it seemed like she was the main driving force of the Cause, that she was the one who ultimately kept them pushing forward with Dodd being the charismatic 'poster boy' to see it through. A lot of layers and intensity in her performance.


Such a fucking good film, so rich in ideas and themes, I'm really glad I got to see it again. Wish I could have seen it on 70mm, bet it would have looked stunning. Love Greenwood's soundtrack too, it seems to shift and morph throughout.


I see it a different way, really. I think Dodd very much loved Freddie. He saw himself in him. The wild side he couldn't admit to having. But I think the last scene between them was sort of about Dodd's inability to have people question him? Or not be dependent on him? And Freddie realising that while The Cause helped him, he simply didn't believe in Dodd anymore. At least not as a leader. The scene in the desert when Freddie splits pretty much indicated that, in my opinion. Dodd played games. Freddie was trying to sort out his life.

I really don't have any idea what the last shot of the film is about. Freddie seems very interested by the idea of reincarnation and previous lives. Dreaming of a life where he wasn't fucked up. Where he could be with Doris. All the girls Freddie went for sort of looked like Doris as well.
I think he's still screwed up by the end, but he's not filled with the same rage that he was earlier. Just trying to make it through life. Trying to create/find the perfect woman. Doris, basically.

It's a brilliant film. PTA's most emotionally complex and character heavy film to date. I'll be watching it for the third time in January when it's out in Denmark, and probably many more.
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Yeah, when I said romance I should have put bromance. Think they very much were obsessed with each other but for different reasons, but ultimately they were bad for each other. Like you say, Dodd was looking for a project and perhaps somebody to experiment with (I think at some point he even calls Freddie his guinea pig, and thinking about it he treats him like a dog for most of the film), whilst Freddie was looking for somebody to give him the easy answers and some direction, or maybe he just wanted some pussy and rocket fuel, or the father figure he didn't have. I think maybe Dodd wanted him around because he was different and actually challenged him.

Urgh, I could happily watch it again tomorrow. I'm going to make it my job this weekend to sit down and watch Magnolia.
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 28 November 2012 - 21:54 PM
Yeah, when I said romance I should have put bromance. Think they very much were obsessed with each other but for different reasons, but ultimately they were bad for each other. Like you say, Dodd was looking for a project and perhaps somebody to experiment with (I think at some point he even calls Freddie his guinea pig, and thinking about it he treats him like a dog for most of the film), whilst Freddie was looking for somebody to give him the easy answers and some direction, or maybe he just wanted some pussy and rocket fuel, or the father figure he didn't have. I think maybe Dodd wanted him around because he was different and actually challenged him.

Urgh, I could happily watch it again tomorrow. I'm going to make it my job this weekend to sit down and watch Magnolia.


Not seen Magnolia yet?? It can be a bit much, and it is my second least favourite PTA film, but it's still fucking amazing, and I'm blown away every time I see it.
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By Fantastic | Permalink | On 28 November 2012 - 13:34 PM
It's weird, my taste in those films varies. I genuinely believe Out for Justice is terrific because it's genuinely entertaining for the right and wrong reasons. Like William Forsythe is just a force of nature in that film, pure evil for the sake of evil. But then knowing what Seagal is like I just love this moment in time where everyone thought he was the business so they made a film where he was allowed to do what he wanted when he wanted. His character is called Gino Felino for fuck's sake.

With Cobra it's just terrible. Pure shit, but it has to be seen. It would die today, but that was a huge success at the time.

Then there's crap like Forest Warrior which is just stupid.

I love action films if they have humour in them or there's something more to the action, but terrible action is good if there's time to reflect on how awful the main character is. That's why I can't stand Chuck Norris films because he says nothing and it's just kicking and explosions. It's boring.


Steven Seagal can still do whatever the fuck he wants, he has played every nationality from Japanese to Native American lol. I enjoy his current run of films called True Justice. They go overboard on story lines of crimes that a small Seattle unit would not ordinarily be handling and the acting is pretty horrible at times but when Seagal comes in and just kicks the shit out of people is where the fun is.
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By The Platypus | Permalink | On 28 November 2012 - 22:04 PM
Not seen Magnolia yet?? It can be a bit much, and it is my second least favourite PTA film, but it's still fucking amazing, and I'm blown away every time I see it.


Just curious, what's your favourite to least favourite PTA films? Magnolia's probably one of my favourites.
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By tmatthew | Permalink | On 29 November 2012 - 09:57 AM
Just curious, what's your favourite to least favourite PTA films? Magnolia's probably one of my favourites.


I have a hard time ranking them really, but I'll give it a go.

1) Boogie Nights
2) There Will Be Blood
3) The Master
4) Punch Drunk Love
5) Magnolia
6) Hard Eight

Boogie Nights was the first PTA film I saw, so it'll probably always be my number 1. Blood and Master I think will battle it out for 2nd place forever, and it'll all depend on my mood, and repeated viewings of The Master.

Hard Eight's the only film of his that I don't consider at least a 9/10, and it's still a solid film. Especially considering he was like 24 when he made it.
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I haven't seen Hard Eight, and most cinemas in the UK stopped showing The Master after like a week, when I couldn't see it.

I'm going to have to watch them all again, but upon first viewing (I only saw them all for the first time in the last few months) Magnolia stuck with me the most.
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By tmatthew | Permalink | On 29 November 2012 - 12:34 PM
I haven't seen Hard Eight, and most cinemas in the UK stopped showing The Master after like a week, when I couldn't see it.

I'm going to have to watch them all again, but upon first viewing (I only saw them all for the first time in the last few months) Magnolia stuck with me the most.


I can't blame you, it's an emotionally hard hitting film. Sticks in your gut.
I love the Scorsese-esque mix of humor and tragedy in Boogie Nights. It's like Goodfellas in the porn world.
And Blood is just a powerhouse.
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Plan for tomorrow: watch Heat and Magnolia and start season 2 of Buffy.

Gonna be a productive day.
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Does anyone have a top 5 (or 10) films from 2012 so far?
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Skyfall
Moonrise Kingdom
Amazing Spiderman
Dark Knight Rises
Avengers

Pretty sure I've only seen five films in 2012 though and my top spot will definitely be reserved for the Hobbit.
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I watched Falling Down (again) last night. Brilliant film.
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Looper
Skyfall
Avengers
TDKR
ParaNorman

Loads of films I've not got round to seeing though, Argo, End of Watch and Moonrise Kingdom in particular.
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My top 10 (in no particular order):
Chronicle
21 Jump Street
The Cabin in the Woods
Headhunters
The Avengers
The Raid
Moonrise Kingdom
Looper
Skyfall
The Master

The Dark Knight Rises, Argo and Prometheus were also up there.
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For some reason I thought The Raid and Cabin in the Woods were last year.
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They're not, though they both appeared at festivals that year, so IMDb lists them as 2011.

1) The Master
2) Jeff Who Lives At Home
3) Skyfall
4) Moonrise Kingdom
5) Looper
6) Magic Mike
7) Killer Joe
8) 21 Jump Street
9) Killing Them Softly
10) The Grey
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1) The Raid
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By The Platypus | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 13:36 PM
They're not, though they both appeared at festivals that year, so IMDb lists them as 2011.

1) The Master
2) Jeff Who Lives At Home
3) Skyfall
4) Moonrise Kingdom
5) Looper
6) Magic Mike
7) Killer Joe
8) 21 Jump Street
9) Killing Them Softly
10) The Grey


How's Jeff Who Lives At Home? Been meaning to catch up with it but haven't got round to it yet. Completely forgot about The Grey, need to give that a rewatch at some point.
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 16:19 PM
How's Jeff Who Lives At Home? Been meaning to catch up with it but haven't got round to it yet. Completely forgot about The Grey, need to give that a rewatch at some point.


Seeing as it's number 2 on my list?
I think it's absolutely brilliant. The trailers made it look completely shite, but it's a great film. Segel is fantastic.
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Not sure if I've actually seen 5 films from 2012 yet.

TDKR and Lawless (which I just finished watching) are the only ones I can remember from the top off my head.
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By Franck | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 17:39 PM
Not sure if I've actually seen 5 films from 2012 yet.

TDKR and Lawless (which I just finished watching) are the only ones I can remember from the top off my head.


February 1st your ass better be in line to see Joaquin Phoenix jerk off on a beach.
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By The Platypus | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 17:46 PM
February 1st your ass better be in line to see Joaquin Phoenix jerk off on a beach.

Swedish première of The Master?
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By Franck | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 18:06 PM
Swedish première of The Master?


http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85mgsJ9g71qzogo3.gif


You bet.
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I've not seen an awful lot of new films this year but I really enjoyed Looper, Project X and 21 Jump Street.
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Had a fairly productive day of film viewing today, watched Headhunters, Lawless and The Bourne Legacy so far, might end up watching yet another film before I go to bed.
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By Franck | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 20:58 PM
Had a fairly productive day of film viewing today, watched Headhunters, Lawless and The Bourne Legacy so far, might end up watching yet another film before I go to bed.


Pssst.. Jeff Who Lives At Home.. hey, pssst.. hey.. hey..
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By Franck | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 20:58 PM
Had a fairly productive day of film viewing today, watched Headhunters, Lawless and The Bourne Legacy so far, might end up watching yet another film before I go to bed.


Headhunters is pretty great, right? Way more violent than I thought it'd be

By The Platypus | Permalink | On 01 December 2012 - 21:12 PM
Pssst.. Jeff Who Lives At Home.. hey, pssst.. hey.. hey..


Going to watch this after I've had some munch.

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