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The Platypus
Carroll.
The Platypus
Mainly that The Dark Knight Rises isn't a good film.
Awful pacing, sloppy, confusing (and straight up bad, at times) writing. Plotholes up the wazoo.
Apart from a few scenes, it's just not a very good film.
Fantastic
Abbott
It certainly has its problems but its infinitely better than the majority of crappy blockbusters that are released every year. Calling it 'not a good film' is incredibly harsh and narrow-minded in my opinion. It definitely has a bunch of problems with it that still bother me but there's still tonnes to enjoy. The other two films have also got weird plot holes and stupid writing too but they never seem to be held up in the same way weirdly. I just think its an easy target for people to get pissed off with.
The Platypus
Just because it's better than Transformers 3 doesn't make it not shit. It has too many problems to be a good film, and the highs aren't nearly high enough. The only reason why we do this "woah woah woah, calm down, it's not BAD" is because it was made by Christopher Nolan.
I think it genuinely is a bad film. Bad writing, bad pacing, awful meaningless characters. Nothing has any real depth, any real meaning. Nothing feels really intense (apart from a few moments with Bane, a character they also completely ruin in the end).
It felt like all Nolan really cared about was the scale of the film, and he didn't give two shits about any of the characters.
Abbott
Hmm, I think you make a good point about the scale of the film trumping the characters, but I disagree that the depth/meaning is absent. I guess it boils down to whether the film hit you or not, and for me it did. Bane was a fascinating character and I loved nearly every moment with him on screen, and Catwoman & Blake made good additions even if they were kinda rushed in, but that's a problem with introducing new people into the last film of a trilogy. Also I thought the final wrap-up montage thing was handled perfectly and wrapped everything up nicely, and importantly had the emotional weight it was gunning for so ultimately the pay-off made what came before worth it. I don't think I was every dis-interested at any point in the film and some of the highs were some of the best of the trilogy in my opinion.
I think all your criticisms are fair, but they just didn't bother me as much as they have for others, but maybe that's just because I'm a Batman/Nolan fanboy or something. That's not to say there are things I didn't like about it, I think your point about pacing is spot-on. The sense of time and place is really lost and I thought Gotham as a city was poor compared to the other two films.
I've discussed this with my friends a few times now and it always just ends with 'well that did/didn't work for me' and I think that's what I'm trying to say here
I need to watch it again.
Carroll.
The Platypus
Well, yes. That's how it is with anything, really.
I didn't feel the film. And holy hell I really wanted to.
I remember right after the Batman vs Bane scene (and their first scene in the pit), I thought "Alright, now this fucker's rolling." Those two scenes are fantastic.
And then.. nothing. Nothing at all.
Abbott
Abbott
Holy crap.
In other holy crap news, I watched Primer last night. Loved the concept and the way it was handled but I totally lost it about half an hour from the end, but I gather that's kinda the point. Really cool film though, especially considering how its basically one guy's creation.
Obtuse
I may have just cum in my pants.
Slashman X
This.
Tremendously disappointed leaving the cinema after that.
King Luis
The Platypus
He's the exec producer on that one, that's about it.
King Luis
Still a quite involved role though regardless.
Carroll.
The Platypus
Often times it's not, actually.
tmatthew
Abbott
Overall I enjoyed it, but I'm not massively thrilled about having another two 3-hour films before its the end of the story, though I'm interested to see what extra material they include.
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Shola
K3V0
VP.
The Amazing Spiderman - Been meaning to watch this for ages and i now wish i hadn't. For me its no where near the standard of the original Spiderman films and i fail to understand why this was even made? Very poor film imo.
Fantastic
Doesn't help that my eyes don't work with 3D glasses given how shit my left eye is.
The Platypus
Fantastic
The Platypus
Fantastic
The Platypus
But if you're gonna wait, you should at least get a proper quality rip.