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jumberto
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10 Dec 2012 17:46:16
Yeah and aside from his slightly fortuitous cup success, he didn't do that well at Chelsea either.
Obtuse
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10 Dec 2012 18:40:55
Just reported Deano's GIF post by accident
Ninja
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10 Dec 2012 19:22:09
By Jaygull | Permalink | On 10 December 2012 - 17:30 PM
Isn't Roberto Di Matteo still out of a job? Surely he'd be worth a punt as far as Sunderland is concerned?

What makes you think Di Matteo is an improvement on O'Neill?
Jamieandhisego
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10 Dec 2012 19:30:32
I'm not sure, I'm just saying that O'Neill shouldn't be throwing his weight around with such a poor record, given the current Champion's League holder is out of a job.
Fantastic
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10 Dec 2012 20:07:21
O'Neill is a better manager than Di Matteo. I don't think O'Neill should be in a job though, he has failed so far in his tenure at Sunderland and it is only because of his reputation that he is still there.
Number 1
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10 Dec 2012 20:19:31
Trust us to end Fulham's goal drought for them. Balls.
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10 Dec 2012 20:30:31
By Fantastic | Permalink | On 10 December 2012 - 20:07 PM
O'Neill is a better manager than Di Matteo. I don't think O'Neill should be in a job though, he has failed so far in his tenure at Sunderland and it is only because of his reputation that he is still there.

I think this is the first job he has struggled in, He had a lot of success with Leicester, Celtic and Villa, Although he was given strong financial backing at all those clubs.
Number 1
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10 Dec 2012 21:12:03
Did Ben Arfa mean that?

Either way... get the fuck in!
Slashman X
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10 Dec 2012 21:12:41
GOAL!
Zog
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10 Dec 2012 21:19:47
Great game so far, I can really see us losing this though the way we've played recently.

Also; http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20661695

Michael Owen's appalling attempt at a Manchester XI
Zog
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10 Dec 2012 21:20:24
Called it.
Zog
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10 Dec 2012 21:28:47
COLO
Slashman X
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10 Dec 2012 21:31:10
Cracking game this
Number 1
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10 Dec 2012 21:31:36
If we were playing a side that could finish their chances they would be out of sight.
Zog
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10 Dec 2012 21:36:06
Santon taking our free kicks.

Jesus...
Slashman X
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10 Dec 2012 21:38:53
Everytime Santon is running down the wing, you can just hear "SANTON YOU'RE SHIT" on the mics
Number 1
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10 Dec 2012 21:40:42
By Slashman X | Permalink | On 10 December 2012 - 21:38 PM
Everytime Santon is running down the wing, you can just hear "SANTON YOU'RE SHIT" on the mics

I thought I could hear that. Ironically he's been our one real crosser this second half.

Schwarzer's looked unconvincing but tame long shots are hardly going to exploit that...
Zog
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10 Dec 2012 21:42:07
He really is, don't know what people see in him a lot of the time, his attacking play is so predictable.

Really need to bring on Marveaux or Ferguson. Its fucking stupid bringing on Ameobi for the one player who can create the sort of service he needs.
Number 1
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10 Dec 2012 21:49:15
Exactly how are the players taught to do crosses set-pieces? Needs a bit of improvement...
Zog
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10 Dec 2012 22:00:55
Fuck knows, the coaching staff are obviously very clueless when it comes to set pieces, I read the other day that we've failed to score in our last 200 corners. The tactic half the time just seems to be lob it to Williamson at the back post where he can head it back across, losing all the pace from the delivery in the process.
Number 1
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10 Dec 2012 22:27:53
Yeah the most common stat out there is that we haven't scored from a corner in 14 months, and I daresay our conversion rate for free-kicks (discounting the ones that go directly into the net) is just as bad.
Flash.
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10 Dec 2012 23:28:37
By Rick87 | Permalink | On 10 December 2012 - 20:30 PM
I think this is the first job he has struggled in, He had a lot of success with Leicester, Celtic and Villa, Although he was given strong financial backing at all those clubs.


He had a tonne of money at these clubs.

People don't realize quite how much he spent at villa. He must have spent about 30m+ a season and broke their transfer record about 3/4 times. Broke Celtics several times too.

He only left because he was told they wouldn't be able to spend as much anymore.
Poe
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11 Dec 2012 00:14:03
He's certainly overrated, he's still a good manager though, just Sunderland have shit players except Johnson and Fletcher.
Andy Cav
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11 Dec 2012 00:33:22
I don't think Sunderland have bad players so much as they're just too predictable and have no pace, though I really don't know what O'Neill sees in Danny Rose...although he does have pace

On the subject of Newcastle, Marveaux confuses me, in the match against Wigan I was expecting to see him favoured to Jonas on the wing due to him actually being a winger. Jonas has got the engine to cover the left side as he does when Ben Arfa is ahead of him, but I think if Wigan hadn't have had Figueroa sent off, Marveaux could have been exposed in the center. I'd also prefer to see Pardew go with both strikers up top, Cisse is wasted on the wing.
Jamieandhisego
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11 Dec 2012 00:37:51
Danny Rose is a left-winger being played at left-back though, isn't he?
Andy Cav
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11 Dec 2012 00:58:58
Eh, not according to Harry Redknapp or Martin O'Neill. Both see him developing more at left-back than the original left-wing. I can see him being another Keiran Gibbs and to me that's not a good thing.
Shola
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11 Dec 2012 01:05:53
I think he's meant to be competent at both.

MON still seems to have the backing of the fans, but his tactics are the main problem imo. Fletcher seems to be isolated and the only man in the box, with Johnson and McClean playing as very wide wingers, and their main tactic seems to be 'get to the byline, hit a cross' but they have nothing to aim at, with Gardner and Cattermole very, very deep. I reckon Sunderland should drop Sessegnon and put on another striker and go with a 4-4-2. It would increase the chances of a cross actually finding a striker.

I wouldn't really say Marveaux is a winger, he's a very weird player, but he's not the sort of guy to give natural width, I reckon Pardew would worry about him and HBA in the same team. But I reckon Pardew has completely forgot how he got Newcastle to play well last season.
Andy Cav
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11 Dec 2012 01:17:42
As I say, I think Cissé is wasted on the wing. Santon's main strength is on the offense so maybe bringing Ben Arfa infield and going with a 4-3-1-2 would be a shout.

Sunderland need a new striker if they're going for 2 up top.
Shola
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11 Dec 2012 01:28:21
I'm not keen on HBA being a AMC, he gives the ball away too much, and can be dangerous, where as on the wing it's normally harmless and often results in corners and throw ins. Where as Cisse and Ba seem totally incapable of forming a partnership, they seem to go for the same balls and just get in each others way. So a 4-3-1-2 would probably only work on paper unfortunately. I think as a plan B though Santon should definately be considered being shoved up the right flank.

I think in January top priority should be buying a back up for Cabaye, because we simply don't have a midfielder who can create at the moment, meaning most of our play in predicatable and slow and results in a Jonas/Santon/Simpson delivery. I sort of reckon Guthrie on loan might be a good option.

Sunderland have Saha, Campbell, Wickham and Ji so they should be able to make do until January imo. I really hope they don't get Guidetti though.
Andy Cav
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11 Dec 2012 01:51:12
By Shola | Permalink | On 11 December 2012 - 01:28 AM
I'm not keen on HBA being a AMC, he gives the ball away too much, and can be dangerous, where as on the wing it's normally harmless and often results in corners and throw ins. Where as Cisse and Ba seem totally incapable of forming a partnership, they seem to go for the same balls and just get in each others way. So a 4-3-1-2 would probably only work on paper unfortunately. I think as a plan B though Santon should definately be considered being shoved up the right flank.

I think in January top priority should be buying a back up for Cabaye, because we simply don't have a midfielder who can create at the moment, meaning most of our play in predicatable and slow and results in a Jonas/Santon/Simpson delivery. I sort of reckon Guthrie on loan might be a good option.

Sunderland have Saha, Campbell, Wickham and Ji so they should be able to make do until January imo. I really hope they don't get Guidetti though.

Out of Saha, Campbell, Wickham and Ji, would you have any of them now? Campbell just isn't right at the moment and Saha has been less than impressive.

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