.verse
12 years ago
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England's defence is woeful though and probably the biggest concern.

Smalling is average and lacks an ounce of brain between his ears.
Cahill has also been average but is the only defender England have with genuine top class experience.
Clyne is defensively poor, particularly with his awareness and positioning. Most effective on the front foot when he's afforded room to run forward.
Rose has promise and was probably England's best defender, but will he be reliable enough against genuine quality he's not really faced before?

Then there isn't a whole lot to consider that were out of the squad. What was once England's biggest strength has seen the quality diminish drastically in that department.

What a corker by Vardy though, him and Kane need to play, as does Alli. Arguably England's best 3 players at present.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
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The last twenty minutes or so with the diamond and Kane and Vardy dropping wide looked class. Best I might have ever seen England look.

Based Jorge
10 years ago
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Laughable how people think Wilshere shouldn't walk straight into the side when fit. Decision is who to play alongside him and behind him. Dier got made look amateur tonight and Henderson is well average.

Reckon an Alli - Wilshere partnership could be great, both brilliant technically yet still have a sense of nastiness about them.

Them two with Vardy, Kane & Sterling ahead of them would lead to some of the best counter attacking football we've seen for us. Unfortunately Rooney's got a perma-place in the squad to slow everything down.


shock I'm right
Grimnir
16 years ago
3 months ago
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Sorry to derail slightly, but why do we have an U20 and U21 squad at international level? Seems rather excessive...
Carroll.
15 years ago
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Are you? Wilshere played good last night didn't he.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
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Are you? Wilshere played good last night didn't he.


If only

I had to watch Henderson attempt to play football for 90 mins
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
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Yeah that was pretty painful to be honest
bmg033
10 years ago
5 months ago
2,268
Actually just heard someone talk about how Henderson was the star player against Germany and how he always performs for England. Although he is a Norwich fan so it's not like he has any clue what a good footballer looks like.
bmg033
10 years ago
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I love that last paragraph.

"I believe in playing football, I believe in taking the initiative and you can only win things if you have a team who can take the game to the opposition. It is difficult to win things in the long term if you go on the back foot."

That statement pretty much means Rooney shouldn't be playing.
Grimnir
16 years ago
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So, Milner to captain and Sturridge to start against the Netherlands tomorrow. Unfortunately I don't think it's likely to be as good a game as the Germany friendly! Just hope we beat them as I have a Dutch boss...
VP.
13 years ago
4 weeks ago
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After Saturday i predict us to win fairly comfortably.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
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Gonna predict 2-1 for England, Holland are in pretty dire straits these days. Which is a shame to see as they've always consistently produced world class players (up until the last few years).
Grimnir
16 years ago
3 months ago
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Tonight's line up:

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/512/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2016/3/29/3b229d37-3a65-480f-8f99-180f87a994f6.png

Vardy on the wing
VP.
13 years ago
4 weeks ago
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Stones & Smalling...
Grimnir
16 years ago
3 months ago
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Stones & Smalling...


I think that is the way forward.

I'm more concerned with Roy's insistence on this formation when we have players that don't suit it. Square pegs in round holes, etc.
VP.
13 years ago
4 weeks ago
25,271
Danny Rose takes just 5 mins to go back to being Danny Rose again, should have been a penalty.
Vercoe
11 years ago
3 years ago
1,510
James Milner look very average at the moment.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
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All the Liverpool lot do, Lallana's shocking.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
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Thats a good goal, first bit of quality in the game.
VP.
13 years ago
4 weeks ago
25,271
Genuinely fed up hearing what Jamie Vardy was doing 'this time four years ago'. Can't wait for next season when they can tell us what he was doing 5 years ago.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
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Adam Lallana aka Johan Cruyff
VP.
13 years ago
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25,271
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Rose is awful.
King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
3,111
What was Rose playing at there
Vercoe
11 years ago
3 years ago
1,510
Unlucky for Forster; made a great save right before.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Drinkwater MOTM is a very odd choice. Genuinely can't remember him doing anything.

Not that anyone really has, Lallana's probably deserved it for the only bit of good football in the entire game.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
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It's a souvenir he can take home and can never come back. Ridiculously out of his depth.

Can't believe Everton turned down £40m for Stones
bmg033
10 years ago
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Stones would be alright if it wasn't for Martinez encouraging him to do stupid shit.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
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Stones would be alright if it wasn't for Martinez encouraging him to do stupid shit.


Posted the same thing on another forum.

There's a good footballer in there, but he clearly needs someone to smack him around the ears and tell him he's being a silly twat. Not sure a big money move will massively help, but you imagine Mourinho/Van Gaal/Conte etc.. would coach that out of him within days.

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