I suggest everybody clicks the "Notify me when updated" button to receive an email when the file is updated/amended in the future.

This file will need to be re-applied if/when patches/updates are released and when the full game comes out to ensure full compatibility. This is due to the fact that some files which are removed when installing this file are automatically re-installed by Steam when official patches come out.

Some of these changes, ESPECIALLY THE CLUB NAMES, may not apply in FMT or in existing save-games. There's a workaround for that in the first post.


The sortitoutsi real names fix changes the instances of fake names in Football Manager 2017 to the proper, real life names for awards, cities, stadiums and competitions, in cases where the actual name is not licensed. It will also fix the fact that the German and Japanese National teams don't call up real players. These are fully save-game compatible.

There is also a club name changes file, which changes the names of clubs in a way which ensures that any nicknames entered in the default database are retained. This file includes the proper names for German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and French clubs to circumvent licensing restrictions. It also adds real-life media and journalists, encompassing most major footballing nations and continents. Finally, it includes a small file which corrects the 3-Letter competition names to correspond with any changes made in the lnc files. For all the files in this paragraph to work, however, you will need to start a new game.


Follow the below instructions to install this version of this file

STEP 1.
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1700
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1701
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1710
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1712
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1730
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

Notes:
\Program Files (x86)\
could be
\Program Files\
depending on your set up.

Mac
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1700 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1701 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1710 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1712 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1730 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

You can find these folders by clicking, in the Finder, the Go menu in the menu bar, then choose Go to Folder and type the folder path name (obviously inserting your username), then click Go.

You can get to the Library folder by simply selecting Go from the top bar and holding "alt" key - The Library folder suddenly appears on the drop down

For Mac Lion users, the Library folder will be hidden. Use this link to find out how to show it.

Slightly more detail in this post



OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1700/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1701/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1710/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1712/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1730/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

Please note that the Local folder is hidden. Press (ctrl + h)



[b]OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1700
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1701
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1710
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1712
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1730
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders[/spoiler]


STEP 2:
COPY the dbc, edt and Inc folders from the downloaded pack

STEP 3:
PASTE them into each of your respective folders mentioned in step 1.

These are what the folder structure should look like in all 5 of the 1700, 1701. 1710, 1712 and 1730 folders:

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/dbc%20permanent%20folder%20fm17.png~original
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/edt%20permanent%20folder%20fm17.png~original
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/lnc%20folder%20fm17.png~original

STEP 4:
COPY the 4 files located in the EDITOR DATA folder in the downloaded pack

STEP 5
PASTE to
\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2017\editor data
This should be what your editor data folder looks like now (with 5 files rather than 4 as in this screenshot. There may initially be a config.xml file in this folder and it can be safely overwritten; it is generated by FM every time the game starts.
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/real%20name%20fix%20fm17.png~original




To make sure the files have been applied correctly, go to the Champions Cup and EURO Vase in your saved game, and they should be renamed to Champions League and Europa League respectively. If you are in the middle of a save-game, German national teams will be populated in the next instance that players are called up, and not instantly.

Club names are only changed if you apply the editor data files before starting a new game. For a workaround if you've already started a new save-game, then please read the opening post of this thread.
Comments
peps_place
17 years ago
1 week ago
26
Update for 17.1.2 is coming? Or can i use the latest update on this patch?
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
I've released a new version for the latest update.

There are a very small amount of minor club and competition name changes, so it's not essential per se, but it's important that everybody adds the files into the 1712 folder as well
glenn28
15 years ago
1 year ago
57
Just a quick spot,I have opened up the up the long club name changes, and changed Real Betis B to Real Betis Balompié.
Personal preference i guess.

Thanks for the Update.
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
Just a quick spot,I have opened up the up the long club name changes, and changed Real Betis B to Real Betis Balompié.
Personal preference i guess.

Thanks for the Update.

I copied it from SI's official database entry for the club in the FM16 database tbf, but I guess it looks better your way...
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
75,247
@mons




Says it works for a new game but not an existing save
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
@mons




Says it works for a new game but not an existing save

Call me past it, but I never quite worked out how to use Twitter

Can you direct the lad to this thread and maybe to PM me? As I don't think the answer will fit in 140 characters...
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
75,247
Call me past it, but I never quite worked out how to use Twitter

Can you direct the lad to this thread and maybe to PM me? As I don't think the answer will fit in 140 characters...

Yeah i've already directed him, answer here and he'll see it
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
@mons




Says it works for a new game but not an existing save

As for the first part, I'm not sure exactly what he means. Is he saying that searching for Schalke 04 in-game (for example) will display the correct name in the search bar, but display the wrong one in the club screen? As that doesn't make any sense. If not, feel free to let me know what the issue is (ideally with screenshots) and I'll try to sort it out.

Secondly, as per the opening text and the installation instructions, club names changes will only work in a new game. However, there's a workaround in the first post to enable them, which however sees the club nicknames not being displayed.
Grimnir
16 years ago
2 months ago
2,727
Looking at the screenshot, it's not club names but league names.

He is searching for Ryman Premier but it is showing as Isthmian League Premier.
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
75,247
Another question (gonna sound like a n00b now)

In the Editor the names aren't changed, has that always been the case? For instance Borussia Mönchengladbach comes up as BMG for all three names.

Is there a way to get the real name fixes working within the editor?

mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
Looking at the screenshot, it's not club names but league names.

He is searching for Ryman Premier but it is showing as Isthmian League Premier.

Ah, I didn't realise there was a screenshot as Twitter and loads of image-hosting sites are blocked

I won't be home till late tonight, but if somebody can upload it as an attachment before then, I may be able to comment...
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
Another question (gonna sound like a n00b now)

In the Editor the names aren't changed, has that always been the case? For instance Borussia Mönchengladbach comes up as BMG for all three names.

Is there a way to get the real name fixes working within the editor?

To view the club name changes in the editor, you need to load the Susie Real Name Fixes - Club Name Changes FM17.fmf editor data file.
Footygamer
17 years ago
1 day ago
75,247
Ah yeah I tried that but failed, I was trying to merge all four, maybe that's where I was messing up. Seems to work okay now
zbladzg
15 years ago
2 hours ago
1,312
Brazil clubs again 3 Letter..i paste All in 1712..Apply editor data ..start New game..everything works before update ..and now everything..only the Brazilian clubs
TacticalGenius
14 years ago
3 weeks ago
6
Premium
Ah, I didn't realise there was a screenshot as Twitter and loads of image-hosting sites are blocked

I won't be home till late tonight, but if somebody can upload it as an attachment before then, I may be able to comment...


Hi, @mons this is my issue. The leagues name fix is being recognised by the game because it works in that when I search for a re-named league by it's new name it directs me to it, but the top bar in-game doesn't show the new name, nor in the search screen itself. In player histories, etc it shows the correct name (i.e Ryman Premier, etc)

As @Rob said, it works correctly in a new save, and I'm pretty sure it worked correctly before the 17.1.2 update, and yes I've copied the files into the new update folder, otherwise it wouldn't work at all.
Jubez
12 years ago
1 year ago
1,073
Hi, @mons this is my issue. The leagues name fix is being recognised by the game because it works in that when I search for a re-named league by it's new name it directs me to it, but the top bar in-game doesn't show the new name, nor in the search screen itself. In player histories, etc it shows the correct name (i.e Ryman Premier, etc)

As @Rob said, it works correctly in a new save, and I'm pretty sure it worked correctly before the 17.1.2 update, and yes I've copied the files into the new update folder, otherwise it wouldn't work at all.


Did you delete the old folders before copying the new ones in?
TacticalGenius
14 years ago
3 weeks ago
6
Premium
Did you delete the old folders before copying the new ones in?


Yeah. I've been using this fix for years. It's not like I'm some 'wet behind the ears' casual. Like I said, it KINDA works. And it works properly on a new save, so it's installed correctly.
Jubez
12 years ago
1 year ago
1,073
Yeah. I've been using this fix for years. It's not like I'm some 'wet behind the ears' casual. Like I said, it KINDA works. And it works properly on a new save, so it's installed correctly.

Then I would say that you have not installed it before you started your current save and the changes that you see in a new game are affected by the fmf files, which requires a new game to work. When you start a new game the selected fmf files will be loaded to that database they will remain in that save even if the fmf files are deleted or changed later as those files are not used actively.
menz
14 years ago
1 day ago
17
Had a really strange bug happen to my game, I started the game with the Beta release code (obviously doing what I needed to do to get real German National team etc) I'm into Sept '16 game time now and suddenly I click onto the German National team and it's all greyed out again. This definitely wasn't the case throughout my game and so I can only assume the latest update affected this?

Unfortunately I don't have a save before the update as I look to save once every hour or so.

Can someone help? I've dedicated an awful lot of time to this save so really don't want to lose it.
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
Brazil clubs again 3 Letter..i paste All in 1712..Apply editor data ..start New game..everything works before update ..and now everything..only the Brazilian clubs

Check your 1700, 1701, 1710 AND 1712 \dbc\permanent folders.

If there are files named Licensing2.dbc and brazil_kits.dbc in any of these folders, then delete them.




Hi, @mons this is my issue. The leagues name fix is being recognised by the game because it works in that when I search for a re-named league by it's new name it directs me to it, but the top bar in-game doesn't show the new name, nor in the search screen itself. In player histories, etc it shows the correct name (i.e Ryman Premier, etc)

As @Rob said, it works correctly in a new save, and I'm pretty sure it worked correctly before the 17.1.2 update, and yes I've copied the files into the new update folder, otherwise it wouldn't work at all.

In addition to what @Jubez said, I suspect this is an SI bug. Another place where this issue occurs is in the "save game as" section, where competition names are displayed as per the default database names and not as the amended licensed versions. You have also confirmed that you have the usual three lnc files in all four lnc folders (1700, 1701, 1710 and 1712), right?




Had a really strange bug happen to my game, I started the game with the Beta release code (obviously doing what I needed to do to get real German National team etc) I'm into Sept '16 game time now and suddenly I click onto the German National team and it's all greyed out again. This definitely wasn't the case throughout my game and so I can only assume the latest update affected this?

Unfortunately I don't have a save before the update as I look to save once every hour or so.

Can someone help? I've dedicated an awful lot of time to this save so really don't want to lose it.

Hi there, I've moved your post to in here. You need to re-download and re-apply this download. With the release of either the full game or one of the patches, some of the files originally deleted by this download were recreated, which negates this particular part of this download. Happily, this fix is save-game compatible, but will only materialise itself once the German national team calls up new players, and not instantly.
menz
14 years ago
1 day ago
17
Hi there, I've moved your post to in here. You need to re-download and re-apply this download. With the release of either the full game or one of the patches, some of the files originally deleted by this download were recreated, which negates this particular part of this download. Happily, this fix is save-game compatible, but will only materialise itself once the German national team calls up new players, and not instantly.

Thanks for getting back to me!
I've tried downloading this fix but it still isn't working? The German national team is still all greyed out. Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I followed the instructions exactly.
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
Thanks for getting back to me!
I've tried downloading this fix but it still isn't working? The German national team is still all greyed out. Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I followed the instructions exactly.

You should really have read my whole post

Happily, this fix is save-game compatible, but will only materialise itself once the German national team calls up new players, and not instantly.
menz
14 years ago
1 day ago
17
No sorry, I meant nothing changed. I've holidayed and the German national team is still greyed out, no other clubs have had their names changed. Even when I start a new game nothing has changed? Must have done something wrong.
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
No sorry, I meant nothing changed. I've holidayed and the German national team is still greyed out, no other clubs have had their names changed. Even when I start a new game nothing has changed? Must have done something wrong.

I'm afraid you must have. Can you give me a screenshot of (a) any lnc folder of the four mentioned in the installation instructions; and (b) your editor data folder?

P.S. If you quote this post, I get a notification that you have replied and I may be able to answer you a bit quicker
zbladzg
15 years ago
2 hours ago
1,312
Tnx mons work fine now...
Daniel Fletcher
11 years ago
11 months ago
8
what about the 1712 folder?
mons
17 years ago
1 minute ago
85,496
what about the 1712 folder?

What about it?
Daniel Fletcher
11 years ago
11 months ago
8
do i paste the folders into that as well? seems like a different method this year....?
Grimnir
16 years ago
2 months ago
2,727
do i paste the folders into that as well? seems like a different method this year....?


Yes, you do it for all of them.
Daniel Fletcher
11 years ago
11 months ago
8

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