2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread - General Discussion - FM24/25 Update

Based Jorge

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27 Feb 2017 20:12:50

United are the biggest club in England. It doesn't matter if they haven't won a title in how many years by the time Ibra leaves. They're by far the richest, they can offer the biggest wages and will always be able to attract the best players regardless of where they finish.

Spurs could win the title this year, it's still more attractive to a player to play for United than at Spurs

Shedender

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27 Feb 2017 20:48:33

Leicester's 2-0 up at half time. Man, Ranieri must be feeling cheesed off right now.

Sam

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27 Feb 2017 20:51:48

Leicester players suddenly playing well after they got Ranieri sacked, funny that.

That being said this is a great result for us.

Shola

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27 Feb 2017 23:08:37

By Sam | On 27 February 2017 - 20:51 PM GMT

Leicester players suddenly playing well after they got Ranieri sacked, funny that.

That being said this is a great result for us.

It's not exactly a rare occurrence.

Also if Man Utd pay £80m (or whatever) for Kane - he'll be absolutely box office regardless of if he's won anything or played well for England.

He'll be the new Gazza or Rooney and be the absolute talisman for England and the Premier League.

Based Jorge

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27 Feb 2017 23:17:46

Anyone else starting to think the Prem with no winter break might be a stretch too far for Klopp?

bmg033

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By VP. | On 27 February 2017 - 10:39 AM GMT

I just don't see any reason for him to want to leave Tottenham and go anywhere else in England. Tottenham are a better side than Man Utd at the moment with a very good up and coming squad who should only get better. He always seems very happy there and certainly doesn't come across as the kind of player that would move on at the first opportunity either. Plus other than funding for the new stadium i see absolutely no reason why they would have to sell him, clubs in the Premier League nowadays don't have to sell their best players (thanks to the massive tv money) especially to a rival in the same league.

Its logical from Man Utd's point of view but certainly not from Tottenham's or Harry Kane's.

Isn't the potential to win multiple trophies at the most popular club in the world a reason? We're most likely not going to win anything anytime soon so if Man Utd had a bid accepted for him I don't see why he'd turn it down, unfortunately for us.

By Ninja | On 27 February 2017 - 19:33 PM GMT

Add to that that this is arguably the strongest period Spurs have ever gone through as a club, against one of the weakest we have for over 20 years, and the fact that even despite their new stadium their capacity is lower than Old Trafford, and they pay their players a relative pittance compared to the other top clubs (which won't change over the coming few years due to the construction of said stadium), nor can they afford to compete for players at the top end of the market, it would hardly be unbelievable to think there might be attractions to moving across.

What exactly are you basing that on? This is our strongest period in the PL era sure, but I don't see how this is our strongest period ever.

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By Based Jorge | On 27 February 2017 - 23:17 PM GMT

Anyone else starting to think the Prem with no winter break might be a stretch too far for Klopp?

Bit to early to say still, only his first full season in charge and its clear we have the weakest squad of the big 6

Sam

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28 Feb 2017 08:01:41

If we win Saturday lunchtime we'll go above both Liverpool and Arsenal before the two play each other.

Nailed on 0-0.

Ninja

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28 Feb 2017 10:13:27

By bmg033 | On 28 February 2017 - 00:25 AM GMT

Isn't the potential to win multiple trophies at the most popular club in the world a reason? We're most likely not going to win anything anytime soon so if Man Utd had a bid accepted for him I don't see why he'd turn it down, unfortunately for us.

What exactly are you basing that on? This is our strongest period in the PL era sure, but I don't see how this is our strongest period ever.

Football started in 1992 obviously.

Seriously though I've also got the impression that Spurs won trophies before in spite of not being the best team in the League, and basically have been perpetually decent without ever being great. It's probably too soon for that statement in fairness, and I think history won't look kindly on your failure to win a trophy over the past few years, but they're definitely not a million miles away.

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By Based Jorge | On 27 February 2017 - 23:17 PM GMT

Anyone else starting to think the Prem with no winter break might be a stretch too far for Klopp?

I don't get this? The winter break doesn't affect the manager as much, its the players that'd be 'affected' surely?

Based Jorge

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By Dan | On 01 March 2017 - 07:46 AM GMT

I don't get this? The winter break doesn't affect the manager as much, its the players that'd be 'affected' surely?

Klopp's system relies on the gegenpress which is impossible to keep up unless you have a large squad which also has quality in it's depth. Liverpool have neither.

If Klopp doesn't bring in heavy reinforcements in the summer then the same thing is going to happen time and time again going into the new year

VP.

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03 Mar 2017 12:42:37

Personally i just think the 'Gegenpress' and too many games are just an excuse for when the team plays shite, like against Leicester. Unless the 16 days rest they had just had before that match meant they were still tired from not having a Xmas break of course...

Plus not being in Europe means they've also played less games than the teams around them barring Chelsea too.

SpinSwimScream

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04 Mar 2017 12:54:05

Both defences are so poor so far, probably suits us as we have better quality up top, but no idea how this is 0-0

Oh wait nvm...

Sam

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04 Mar 2017 13:10:04

Jones you fucking idiot.

BR.

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04 Mar 2017 13:10:12

Great penalty King! Now tighten up at the back Bournemouth.

SpinSwimScream

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04 Mar 2017 13:11:47

Zlatan/Rooney up top is painful to watch, dropping deep and playing through balls for each other that neither has the legs to run on to.

SpinSwimScream

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04 Mar 2017 13:17:42

Ref is having an absolute shocker here

Sam

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04 Mar 2017 13:19:00

Ibra should be off, but Mings' stamp is fucking horrific. Obviously two wrongs don't make a right. Ibra will be banned for a few games.

Kevin Friend has no control, Surman sent off five minutes after he realised he gave him a second booking.

Calamity.

Number 1

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04 Mar 2017 13:19:40

Are we expecting retrospective bans for Ibrahimovic and/or Mings? Both would deserve it for their stupidity.

SpinSwimScream

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04 Mar 2017 13:21:24

We better bring some pace on in the second half. So annoying seeing how open Bournemouth are at the back, Martial tearing their right back to bits... and then Zlatan/Rooney and Mata playing at a snails pace.

Sam

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04 Mar 2017 13:21:29

Ibra not sent off for elbowing somebody, Mings not sent off for stamping somebody, Surman sent off for complaining to the referee.

Ref has no control on this game.

SpinSwimScream

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04 Mar 2017 13:21:49

By Number 1 | On 04 March 2017 - 13:19 PM GMT

Are we expecting retrospective bans for Ibrahimovic and/or Mings? Both would deserve it for their stupidity.

You'd hope so for sure.

SpinSwimScream

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By Sam | On 04 March 2017 - 13:21 PM GMT

Ibra not sent off for elbowing somebody, Mings not sent off for stamping somebody, Surman sent off for complaining to the referee.

Ref has no control on this game.

On top of that he booked Surman twice without sending him off for a minute or two as well

Ah wait you added that, my bad

Sam

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04 Mar 2017 13:23:23

The stamp and the elbow. Complete with Gary Neville.

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By SpinSwimScream | On 04 March 2017 - 13:21 PM GMT

You'd hope so for sure.

My presumption is that because the ref spent an age chatting with Zlatan, he's probably not going to be banned in retrospect.

SpinSwimScream

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By Number 1 | On 04 March 2017 - 13:25 PM GMT

My presumption is that because the ref spent an age chatting with Zlatan, he's probably not going to be banned in retrospect.

I dunno, I genuinely think he didn't see it. If he did I have no idea how he is still on the pitch. No idea what the chat was for.

Ninja

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04 Mar 2017 13:35:54

Something like this has been brewing all season. The amount of genuinely horrific decisions we've seen and then today you have the ref miss a player deliberately stamp on Ibra's head. Ibra taking the law into his own hands, and then the referee forgetting he'd already booked Surmon and taking genuinely five minutes between showing him his second yellow and the red.

Absolute farce. Referee's are just simply are not up to scratch. Two seconds of consultation with a video referee would have seen Mings sent off and that whole load of bollocks that followed afterwards would have been avoided.