@mons Just these 2 images were somewhat "improvements", the other players already have superior cuts.
Did the upload as a tempack so it doesn't show as pending anymore.
@mons Just these 2 images were somewhat "improvements", the other players already have superior cuts.
Did the upload as a tempack so it doesn't show as pending anymore.
I've checked 3 sources: 1 (Benedetto) is a poor source and definitely not an improvement. The other 2 have recent HQ 250x250 cuts in the megapack. Besides, Emanuel Reynoso's UID is 14111499. When requesting packs, please make sure to check that the sources are actually improvements. I'm rejecting this request. It could be that the other sources are improvements and or missing - that should be the requester's job, not mods' or cutters'.
It seems these have all either been cut already (presumably through individual requests), are duplicate requests, or an updated pack has been requested.
If you submit bad pics, we're going to reject them. It's that simple.
i know how to search and find the best available pictures, no worries. don’t assume. go check my submission list instead on how to appropriately assess someone’s contribution history. and we don’t need the imperial plural now, do we?
i know how to search and find the best available pictures, no worries. don’t assume. go check my submission list instead on how to appropriately assess someone’s contribution history. and we don’t need the imperial plural now, do we?
If you know how to search good pics, why you keeping submitting bad ones and complaining about not being cut? 😕
Yes, I know your submission history. Good photos were cut, bad photos were rejected. This photo is very bad, therefore it's rejected. I really don't understand this tantrum 🙄
we can agree on the fact that you don’t seem to understand a few things.
a) i’m not complaining about the pictures not being cut - if you had paid attention, you would have noticed i said i don’t have an issue with that. you are however, claiming that the active pictures are better, which is false, period. this is what i had pointed out. there are a few other things you misrepresented, but i’ll leave it at that, there are more important things to do.
@cameosis By the way, on Twitter, where I found this good photo, there's also the one you submitted, but in good resolution. But this one is better because it doesn't have any light shine in the hair. 🙂
That's why I recommended you visit the forum, because there are more ways to search for photos than Facebook, which is the one you used. 🙂
i don’t search facebook exclusively, i have my personal techniques and approaches which work well for me. sometimes results are influenced by the browser you use, not so much where you end up (websites, twitter, facebook, youtube, tiktok etc).
couple of final comments on the topic:
the first issue is not the rejection of a picture, but the initial tone and way of communication. while the explanation why the picture was rejected is plausible, the later posts escalated towards more condescending and dismissive comments and heavy implications that i should learn the basics of submitting graphics. i found that inappropriate to say the least, particularly from a staff member.
and just for the record and context, i want to refer to these images which have been literally approved yesterday/today:
this is the second problem: the consistent application of criteria – or rather, the lack thereof.
if they were applied all the time in the same manner, many questions would not even be raised. while i understand that a huge site like sortitoutsi has many staff members with different preferences and opinions, in this particular case, it does come off as arbitrary and random.
i have been browsing through the contributions regularly and for a long time to get an idea of what is added to the db, and it serves as an orientation. that was the reason why i referred you to my submission list, the percentage of rejected images is neglectable, which in turn shows that i am thorough with my selection of sources, and i’m not an inexperienced user. mons can attest to how tiring my attention to detail can be at times, ask him.
i’m a mod and graphics creator at football manager graphics, so i’m quite convinced that i know what i’m doing – and so is the site admin and the user base there.
anyway, so much from me. all good and moving forward.
i don’t search facebook exclusively, i have my personal techniques and approaches which work well for me. sometimes results are influenced by the browser you use, not so much where you end up (websites, twitter, facebook, youtube, tiktok etc).
couple of final comments on the topic:
the first issue is not the rejection of a picture, but the initial tone and way of communication. while the explanation why the picture was rejected is plausible, the later posts escalated towards more condescending and dismissive comments and heavy implications that i should learn the basics of submitting graphics. i found that inappropriate to say the least, particularly from a staff member.
and just for the record and context, i want to refer to these images which have been literally approved yesterday/today:
this is the second problem: the consistent application of criteria – or rather, the lack thereof.
if they were applied all the time in the same manner, many questions would not even be raised. while i understand that a huge site like sortitoutsi has many staff members with different preferences and opinions, in this particular case, it does come off as arbitrary and random.
i have been browsing through the contributions regularly and for a long time to get an idea of what is added to the db, and it serves as an orientation. that was the reason why i referred you to my submission list, the percentage of rejected images is neglectable, which in turn shows that i am thorough with my selection of sources, and i’m not an inexperienced user. mons can attest to how tiring my attention to detail can be at times, ask him.
i’m a mod and graphics creator at football manager graphics, so i’m quite convinced that i know what i’m doing – and so is the site admin and the user base there.
anyway, so much from me. all good and moving forward.
I've deliberately avoided getting involved in this issue.
There is a very important difference between the above images that you've highlighted and the one you requested. The former are all game ready cuts. Someone cut them already. Your image was a source, which means you're expecting someone else to do the work for you. It's kind of the point that staff members moderate requests. At the end of the day, I think we can all agree that the source you posted wasn't the best. I have no issue with Lebohang Mokoena pointing it out.
I've deliberately avoided getting involved in this issue.
There is a very important difference between the above images that you've highlighted and the one you requested. The former are all game ready cuts. Someone cut them already. Your image was a source, which means you're expecting someone else to do the work for you. It's kind of the point that staff members moderate requests. At the end of the day, I think we can all agree that the source you posted wasn't the best. I have no issue with Lebohang Mokoena pointing it out.
the sources aren’t the best, absolutely. him pointing it out, no problem. had it concluded there, all fine.
the tone inappropriate – also absolutely, sorry but that’s what it is, and i stand by it – i hope you also have no issue with me pointing that out, because you seem to have missed that this was the sole reason for the argument, nothing else.
and with all due respect, i »don’t expect others to do the work for me«, @mons – i’m contributing to a game that i’m not even playing, and i spend a considerable amount of time to alert you to mistakes in the db. i’m not interested in the cut-out style, so there is no point to invest time in it. i provide sources, and it’s up to others to pick them or not. however, i have no need for dismissive remarks, i think we can agree on that, too.
the sources aren’t the best, absolutely. him pointing it out, no problem. had it concluded there, all fine.
the tone inappropriate – also absolutely, sorry but that’s what it is, and i stand by it – i hope you also have no issue with me pointing that out, because you seem to have missed that this was the sole reason for the argument, nothing else.
and with all due respect, i »don’t expect others to do the work for me«, @mons – i’m contributing to a game that i’m not even playing, and i spend a considerable amount of time to alert you to mistakes in the db. i’m not interested in the cut-out style, so there is no point to invest time in it. i provide sources, and it’s up to others to pick them or not. however, i have no need for dismissive remarks, i think we can agree on that, too.
Good photos are accepted, bad ones are rejected.
There has been no inappropriate tone at any time, nor any dismissive remark. If that's what you think, we can discuss it privately; there's no need for all this.
the sources aren’t the best, absolutely. him pointing it out, no problem. had it concluded there, all fine.
the tone inappropriate – also absolutely, sorry but that’s what it is, and i stand by it – i hope you also have no issue with me pointing that out, because you seem to have missed that this was the sole reason for the argument, nothing else.
and with all due respect, i »don’t expect others to do the work for me«, @mons – i’m contributing to a game that i’m not even playing, and i spend a considerable amount of time to alert you to mistakes in the db. i’m not interested in the cut-out style, so there is no point to invest time in it. i provide sources, and it’s up to others to pick them or not. however, i have no need for dismissive remarks, i think we can agree on that, too.
I respect your viewpoint but I absolutely do not think the initial tone was inappropriate, no. The guidelines to uploading images specifically mention that
If you're having difficulties in finding a good source image, have a look in this thread for some hints and tips on how and where to find the best possible sources for your requests. If the images found are still small, then consider whether it is worth requesting it at all.
The fact you requested a sub-standard source meant it was entirely reasonable to point this out to you. You then did not react entirely reasonably to the suggestion that the source wasn't particularly good, and appeared to take disproportionate umbrage at this 😕
I appreciate where you're coming from, but I think your overall reaction is that tbh - disproportionate. Let's all draw a line under this now.
I would propose that this site make a few changes to the rules: to accept images of players who are not looking at the camera but their entire face is visible (i.e. who cares if a player is facing the camera or not?), to accept new images for players who have not appeared in the game for a long time, because active images are really ugly (there are cases but I can't list them now) And @mons and @Lebohang Mokoena to change their behavior towards users who are at the beginning, because they really have a bad and ugly behavior, and to be much more understanding with some. And @Julk44 to stop interfering with other users' works because he is not part of the staff.
I would propose that this site make a few changes to the rules: to accept images of players who are not looking at the camera but their entire face is visible (i.e. who cares if a player is facing the camera or not?), to accept new images for players who have not appeared in the game for a long time, because active images are really ugly (there are cases but I can't list them now) And @mons and @Lebohang Mokoena to change their behavior towards users who are at the beginning, because they really have a bad and ugly behavior, and to be much more understanding with some. And @Julk44 to stop interfering with other users' works because he is not part of the staff.
2 - If you find "really ugly active images," nothing prevents you from cutting them or requesting a better one. Which you haven't done, because there are hardly any.
3 - Neither mons's behavior nor mine is bad at all. That's not up for debate. What we do is monitor to ensure that no one uploads deliberately bad or tiny photos (which is precisely the case here, where an user requested a much smaller photo than the current one). And when he was told not to do that, he threw a ridiculous tantrum, even disrespecting me, which I've never done. And he's not an user who is at the beginning (you aren't neither)
4 - As for julk44 (or any other community member who is not part of the staff but alerts us to bad cuts, most of which are from people with several warnings who ignore them like you), obviously, that is not interfering.
You're the user with the most banned accounts in the community, and you always do the same things you've been told not to do, always saying, "I'm new." If any rule or behavior needs to be changed, your opinion will not be considered.
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Did the upload as a tempack so it doesn't show as pending anymore.