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Poe
As it only really matters to players.
Everton and Newcastle are on a similar level, imo.
K3V0
Read that somewhere earlier today, really quite shocking the difference in numbers.
bluemoon.
Poe
Correct decision.
bluemoon.
K3V0
Would have been absolutely terrible had he got a three game ban for a fantastic tackle.
Ninja
VP.
I'm fairly certain it wasn't a public backlash that changed their minds, just the action replay button. Even the player on the end of the tackle didn't complain and in all fairness it appeared as if Wilshere thought he was the one in trouble for landing on Kompany. I'd also like to add that it was nice to see a player be honest, rather than roll around on the floor trying to get the opposition man sent off.
Dutton
VP.
Yeah, that was funny.
Slashman X
He didn't roll around on the floor because he was trying not to get himself sent off
Ninja
That's not my point.
My point was up to this point the FA have dealt with red card appeals based upon the type of challenge. I.e. if the player left the ground, had his studs raised or whatever the card would not be overturned. This led to the dismissals of Joe Cole on his Liverpool debut, where he made very little contact with Koscielny I think it was (if any at all), Kompany against United in the FA Cup and it led to the dismissal of Kompany on Sunday and that's why Graham Poll and Dermot Gallagher, for example, defended the decision because that's how the FA has dealt with it in the past.
This appeal was clearly dealt with on the execution of the challenge, i.e. because Kompany won the ball and didn't injure Wilshere it was deemed not to fit in to the criteria of endangering safety. As opposed to the type, and has been forced, primarily by the public backlash to the decision.
If this marks a changing point of how referee's are instructed to officiate and how the FA will deal with appeals, in short if it marks a changing point in the application of the law that's fine, but if next week a Wigan player makes a similar tackle, gets sent off and has his appeal rejected because there is no real outcry than that's clearly not fine.
zeonflux
Ninja
I've heard a few whispers that this is a pretty controversial topic in IFAB circles and a rule change is being considered.
I don't like the idea of two offences being treated in two different ways because they occurred in different areas of the pitch, although this does already happen to some extent albeit not enshrined in the law.
I can see the arguments against the so called double punishment you describe, though, tbh I'm not really sure what can be done either way a change would upset a lot of people.
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K3V0
Sayeth
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.verse
Miss Terry and a midfield enforcer something shocking.
Sayeth
Why doesn't Rafa Benitez ever discuss what happened during a game??
He constantly says "I am just concentrating on the next game"...
Winds me up!!
.verse
What's to say that doesn't stand out already?
The attackers aren't clinical in front of goal.
A midfield presence is lacking.
Lack of concentration down back and silly errors costing goals.
It's not hard to see where the problems lie. A lack of depth has seriously hurt, particularly in midfield. Getting rid of both Essien and Meireles was a terrible decision. As was going into the season with only Torres and Sturridge (who was already being touted around in the summer) as the only forward options.
While Benitez must take some responsibility, a lot of it comes down to the players on the pitch. The fact the clubs home fans persist with the booing doesn't help the team one little bit and makes for a very negative atmosphere.
It's a worrying time for the club to be honest, I can't see why any manager would want to take over with the club in such a mess and being run by complete nuffies at board level. The club's been going backwards since Ancelotti was sacked.
BR.
There'd have been no booing or negative atmosphere when you were 2-0 up though last night, which is when you started to drop off. Probably not much at 2-1 either, bit of edginess and a few groans here and there but you'd get that at any ground when under pressure from a relegation threatened team having been 2-0 up.
And to be fair, taking Lampard off was very strange. He's always likely to pop up with a goal.
Sayeth
After we won back-to-back titles with Jose Mourinho, Manchester United went on to win three consecutive titles.
During those three seasons the club had the perfect opportunity to rebuild a young squad using some of the academy prospects and putting some solid foundations in place. Instead we've continued to sack managers and waste millions on players who have turned out to be a waste.
Like you say, it's a worrying time for the club at the moment. We could potentially start next preseason/season without a decent manager, Ashley Cole or Frank Lampard.
Blaze
Clearly he's just building another list of fachts
Slashman X
chokosc
Seems like a weird thing to do. They just came back from 2-0 down against us and they are playing alright... They just need to strengthen their back line.
ShortSharpShock
Just been confirmed on Sky Sports News...
Slashman X
Sam
That came from nowhere.
rossiheslopi