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Tommy Hughes
The Burger Ki... I mean, Stevenage shirt on the right honestly looks like it's a Burger King employee's shirt/apron. You can hardly even notice the Stevenage logo with the stripes and the rather sizeable BURGER KING logo going on around it.
I mean, that's not really a sponsorship. That's a downright football kit takeover.
Grimnir
Confirmed to be a spoof now anyway,
Number 1
Certainly better than Stevenage, which I'm guessing their fans wish by this point was a spoof.
Eric Portapotty
Wouldn't mind copping one of those sash kits though tbfh
Grimnir
Liking our new kits, sponsor and all!
Grimnir
Tommy Hughes
Man, I hate to see this happen to a pair of traditional clubs and long time sympathetic underdogs. Poor fans, players, staff and everyone connected. And, quite literally, poor clubs.
terriersmad
Not that strange - Bolton's cashflow will be so much bigger than Bury's. Say they get 12,000 every week, compared to 3,000 at Bury. Also to do with the fact that Bury's owner appears to be an obstructive so and so who doesn't have a pot to piss in while funding a ludicrous amount of wages in League Two - plus transfer fees (they paid around £500,000 for Harry Bunn 2 years back - a staggering amount of money for a club Bury's size, and he'll have been on big wages for that level, considering he'd just come from our Premier League promotion team). The question is why the hell the FL decided to let him take over when he didn't have the means, but there we go. Bolton's owner is still terrible, but not quite as bad.
I've said for a long time that a financial crash is going to take clubs out. I'm sad to see that prophecy quite possibly being fulfilled with Bolton and Bury.
Grimnir
Number 1
I'm aware the previous owner spent unsustainable amounts of cash, which doesn't help at all, but it has got to a really bad way that we could be on the verge of an expulsion like what happened to Maidstone & Aldershot in the early 1990s. Even if that doesn't happen, the Fit & Proper Persons Test is going to need extreme revision because this might be the ultimate demonstration it doesn't work.
Grimnir
How is Assombalonga a Championship striker, super lucky with his goal and skies his penalty in tonight's game away at Luton.
Entertaining 3-3 draw though!
Number 1
This doesn't make for a good omen if it gets to a "kick out or not to kick out" point. Especially with the owner already putting out a statement in response that starts with "BURY FOOTBALL CLUB HAVE BEEN TONIGHT DEALT A GRAVE INJUSTICE"
Grimnir
Elsewhere, great win for ourselves today. The Oystons are gone, Larry is back and with him came just under 12,000 fans to Bloomfield road. Bristol Rovers normally do well against us so glad Spearing actually put in a performance worthy of his captaincy for once and scored the penalty and set up the, somewhat unfairly, disliked Gnanduillet for his goal. The Gas hit the post in each half so we were a bit fortunate but I'm glad all over that the season is back and I can properly support my team again!
Tommy Hughes
Congrats on the new era! Let's hope it's a succesful one.
terriersmad
Hallelujah! Fans back at Bloomfield - good crowd too.
I took myself off for an afternoon of non-league today. With Town not playing until Monday, I went to Farsley Celtic v Darlington. Decent crowd there - not announced but looked north of 1,500, the majority being from Darlington. This meant the majority of the crowd was grumpy for much of the afternoon, as their side disintegrated in the first half. I can't remember the Darlington keeper making a save all afternoon, but they went in 3-0 down at the break after defensive calamities. The first goal was a great strike, but it stemmed from a terrible clearance, and the second and third goals were all about Darlington not doing the basics. Lost the runners for the second, and the third was the worst defending I think I'll ever see from a really straightforward loopy long throw that they just didn't deal with. Darlington improved after the break, but Farsley were focused and did the basics right, and despite the goal of the game - a 25-yard curler from the angle of the penalty area - Darlington never looked like getting back in it. They huffed and puffed but Farsley didn't make the mistakes Darlington did, and that was the difference.
A thoroughly enjoyable and affordable afternoon out. £13 for admission, programme and a cuppa.
terriersmad
My feelings on the kit are well known (see above). But once again you'd think the FA had more to do than pick on us for something trivial. And that has raised money for charity. Apparently not. After all, the FA apparently exists only to fuck up the decent clubs and not get involved where there are actual bad things going on - such as helping Bury and Bolton and punishing Derby and Sheffield Wednesday.
terriersmad
Dan
Grimnir
terriersmad
His performance was shambolic. Perhaps we could expect a poor display considering we had 7 debutants, one making his senior bow. But if we had a system as under Wagner, players would have been well drilled in it. We played makeshift sides under Wagner and regularly trounced lower league teams because even though players weren't regulars they knew their jobs and where they fitted in the system. When we murdered Rochdale 4-0 in the FA Cup with a reserve side you could see how each player had just replaced the first choice in their position. None of that now. When it was clear it wasn't working after 20, 25 minutes he just stood there. We brightened up for 5 minutes at the end of the first half, but the warning signs were there before Lincoln took the lead early in the second - and he persisted. Lincoln had made all 3 changes before Van La Parra was brought on after about 70 minutes - 15 minutes after the goal, in a like for like change. He brought on Mounié 5 minutes later but still didn't change the shape, pushing Kachunga wider rather than partnering up with Mounié and going two up top. To top off his in-match performance, Schofield was shouting at him, asking whether he should go forward for a corner. The manager just ignored him.
Post-match, the manager got into an argument with a fan, didn't emerge for the post-match press conference for over an hour, and when he did castigated the players (that he picked and didn't change, average age 22.4), saying how he'd laid into them about how unhappy he was with the performance. All in all, a complete shambles and I'd be surprised - considering there was apparently an emergency meeting of the coaching staff late last night without him - if he was still here come 5 o'clock tonight.
Eric Portapotty
Number 1
Ultimately not a surprise if the above posts provide an indication. Might well have been a better bet to do it at the end of last season but them's the breaks..
VP.
terriersmad
Absolutely. And the buck stops with Siewert. Though the whole club needs to shake its collective head. He was gone on Wednesday then given a reprieve by the chairman because he'd already picked the team for Friday. It's worse than when we couldn't afford to sack Wadsworth in 2003, and the football we played was on a par. Why would you give a reprieve to someone when his team selections and tactics have lost 14 of 18 matches after he says he's decided the team selection and tactics for the next match?
Siewert's problems were plentiful. I suspect he'll disappear into obscurity in the German youth leagues and never be heard of in this country again. A dreadful experiment at a dreadful time. On the plus side, Chris Hughton is the front-runner it seems. Insofar as we need to go back to basics, he's the ideal manager to do that. Failing that, I wouldn't say no to Nigel Adkins - sorted Hull out in a very similar situation, with perhaps less talent in the team (Bowen aside). Just so long as it's not yet another untried German lower league manager. Wagner was one of a kind - a genuine genius. Siewert was not, and having seen him over the last 7 months I'm amazed he's got as far as he has. One way of playing, no flexibility, far too late with subs, alienated the entire team, never took responsibility.
VP.
terriersmad
Hard to finish below a side that won't even start the season. Though point taken: it's grim.
Our performance last night was grim. It's got to the players. Half of them were in tears at the end. 4 wins in 55, and not through lack of effort last night. Yes, we were, by and large, poor, but the effort was present, the running was there (for the most part). What wasn't there was quality and belief. We rode the storm first half, managed to get back into it and looked to be heading for a draw until fortune favoured Cardiff with a wicked deflection. Had we survived we'd be saying it was a great point in adversity, that we could build on it. But we didn't.
This is a team that needs two things. First it needs something to go for it. A slice of luck, a decision, anything. Last night wasn't the night for that as the bit of luck was with Cardiff at the end. Perhaps more importantly, it has got to go back to basics. We spent most of last night trying to play out from the back, which led to losing the ball in stupid areas and giving away silly free-kicks. The wingers and striker - who are seriously quick for this level - were anonymous. It staggers me that we're not being that little bit more direct. Van la Parra and Grant dropped deep for the ball leaving us with no threat up top. Whenever we play it in to them, it's short balls leaving them with their back to goal - we never make the opposition turn and face their own goal. Bennett was on a booking after about 60 minutes - logic says we have a lightning quick winger up against him who we should put on the shoulder of the defender and play the early direct ball to. But no - we persist with passing it round the back and midfield before losing it after wanting to take one touch too many. The defence also needs tightening up - 7 conceded in 4 league games.
Don't get me started on Mbenza's performance. I'll leave it at 'laziest display I've ever seen'.
As for our transfer business, fuck me. No left back. Letting our best player out on loan. Letting our alternative striker out on loan IN THE LAST YEAR OF HIS CONTRACT. Gambled on unproven kids. We had one chance to build and because we're being run by a load of fucking amateurs (Julian Winter, that's you) we've flunked it. League One sodding beckons.
Dan
terriersmad
Hate to say it, but it's not their job. I agree with the sentiment (especially after the Premier League told each of its clubs to give a £250k golden handshake to Scudamore last season), but if football is to be sustainable they cannot be bailed out by other clubs. The same went for Portsmouth several years ago. The same goes for Bolton. The same went for us when we were in bother 16 years ago, Bradford, Leeds, etc. The problem I've got has been the FL's approach - when Middlesbrough had the gates of Ayresome Park locked in the 1980s, they carried on playing, formed a new company and kept their place. For me, this is a much better approach than the FL's current approach, which will punish clubs and not give them the chance to get back on the straight and narrow.
Though it should also be said that the biggest problem is the owner. Dale has been disgraceful in his treatment of the club and the fans. The role of an owner should be to safeguard the club for the fans and, like another Lancashire owner I could name, he's done the exact opposite. Without him, I don't think this situation pitches up in quite the same way.
I for one will be staying up late to hear what happens to Bury today (despite having a bloody long day tomorrow - Test cricket in the morning, Championship football in the afternoon). I hope for good news.
Dan
Yeah I completely get that and it not being their job to etc and down the line if this did happen, we'd probably see a lot more clubs put themselves at risk in hope of being bailed out later down the line.
I did hear that we would be unlikely to find out any news until tomorrow morning now as obviously the cut off isn't until 23.59. But who knows. I hope they get the extension at least.
Shedender
They're as good as gone and it's an absolute disgrace.
EFL has stated that "limited progress" has been made in the survival bid.