mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
how can i difference between players and staff members?

Currently not possible. One of the reasons it was merged is that you might need to search in two separate places if you were not aware whether a person was a player or a staff member. This way, you can find all people in one place. You can then tell what is his person type by accessing his profile.
Chuck Bartowski
14 years ago
4 months ago
340
Hey all! First of all i like the new website. I want to ask something. Trophys and logos be seen in the league section from old version. Are you thinking of doing this again?
Beringer_DK
8 years ago
1 year ago
6
Sorry....

I don't like the new site..., just has to be honest.

I think it in fonts and so looks like a copy of SI-games, and I liked the old style...

Is it because you have changed the site, my payments go wrong for abonnement every time?

You write this:

"The recent paypal payments for your premium subscription at sortitoutsi.net have been failing and if this continues then you will no longer have access to the variety of premium only features of the site."

But everything is fine at Paypal, and at my account..., so you have to do something wrong.
Mag1lc2
7 years ago
7 months ago
141
Premium
I don't like the new site...


Don´t like too...In my opinion, the site is totally confusing ...

Okay, a question please:

How can I tell that there is a new / updated version of a download? So far, this has been shown under the download in green font for a few days.

For example here:

https://sortitoutsi.net/forums/14/ss-kits-forum?game=12&type=download

Under each download we can only see when the last comment was, but not when the download was last updated.
JordanSMonk
9 years ago
2 months ago
1
Premium
I am unable to access my code for FM21. I dont know if this is because of the website changes, but when I click on my email saying that my steam code is available and click on more info, I then log in and it says 404 - Not Found
julkjulk
5 years ago
1 year ago
17,319
Banned
Why did you "fix" a website that is not broken?

We want the old site!
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
Don´t like too...In my opinion, the site is totally confusing ...

Okay, a question please:

How can I tell that there is a new / updated version of a download? So far, this has been shown under the download in green font for a few days.

For example here:

https://sortitoutsi.net/forums/14/ss-kits-forum?game=12&type=download

Under each download we can only see when the last comment was, but not when the download was last updated.

It's just a question of getting used to it, really.

I hadn't visited that section before but saw the latest packs button, which does what you appear to want to have and sorts kitpacks by date of release.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/yJy0tKmmAzEXw3W4hZVADnpwHewKk8WbDLPsPq7X.png




I am unable to access my code for FM21. I dont know if this is because of the website changes, but when I click on my email saying that my steam code is available and click on more info, I then log in and it says 404 - Not Found

You'll have to wait for the site owner and admin to be back online to help you. Best to post in this thread too to be safe
julkjulk
5 years ago
1 year ago
17,319
Banned
Currently not possible. One of the reasons it was merged is that you might need to search in two separate places if you were not aware whether a person was a player or a staff member. This way, you can find all people in one place. You can then tell what is his person type by accessing his profile.


I cant see it as a big problem? What i have to do if I want to search the staff members of "x" club? Try to guess them?
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
I cant see it as a big problem? What i have to do if I want to search the staff members of "x" club? Try to guess them?

I know English isn't your first language but I'm not sure I'm following what you mean 😢

On the old forum, to see the whole list of staff members at a club, you would need to type in club name and select the team category. When you clicked on the team name, the list of staff members would be at the bottom.

I did the same with Milan , and [url=https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2020/team/1099/ac-milan]it's all there 😕 At the moment, club jobs aren't showing but it's been raised as a bug report with Footygamer who'll fix it as soon as he can.

Or have I completely misunderstood what you're saying?
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
Hey all! First of all i like the new website. I want to ask something. Trophys and logos be seen in the league section from old version. Are you thinking of doing this again?

I can see that the trophy icon/logo is missing from this page but before I upload that as a feature request, can you explain what you mean by logos not being seen? They look fine here, no? Or are you referring to something other than club logos?
julkjulk
5 years ago
1 year ago
17,319
Banned
I know English isn't your first language but I'm not sure I'm following what you mean 😢

On the old forum, to see the whole list of staff members at a club, you would need to type in club name and select the team category. When you clicked on the team name, the list of staff members would be at the bottom.

I did the same with Milan , and [url=https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2020/team/1099/ac-milan]it's all there 😕 At the moment, club jobs aren't showing but it's been raised as a bug report with Footygamer who'll fix it as soon as he can.

Or have I completely misunderstood what you're saying?


Yes mons, thanks. Id like to see the staff member roles without the need to click on each one.
julkjulk
5 years ago
1 year ago
17,319
Banned
I know English isn't your first language but I'm not sure I'm following what you mean 😢

On the old forum, to see the whole list of staff members at a club, you would need to type in club name and select the team category. When you clicked on the team name, the list of staff members would be at the bottom.

I did the same with Milan , and [url=https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2020/team/1099/ac-milan]it's all there 😕 At the moment, club jobs aren't showing but it's been raised as a bug report with Footygamer who'll fix it as soon as he can.

Or have I completely misunderstood what you're saying?


Yes mons, thanks. Id like to see the staff member roles without the need to click on each one.
Chuck Bartowski
14 years ago
4 months ago
340
I can see that the trophy icon/logo is missing from this page but before I upload that as a feature request, can you explain what you mean by logos not being seen? They look fine here, no? Or are you referring to something other than club logos?


Yes they look so fine, this is not problem. I want tell this situation. If this is fix, it'll be great. Thanks for your patience!
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
Yes they look so fine, this is not problem. I want tell this situation. If this is fix, it'll be great. Thanks for your patience!

In line with the new smaller icons in the new database, I don't think having the competition trophy so large will be happening again. But I can certainly see some space where it can be added on the competition page, yeah 🙂
tuodi8shi
12 years ago
18 hours ago
6,001
Hi,

Thanks for revamping the websites. A few useful functionalities of the database seem to be missing after the revamp though.

1. It used to be easy to navigate through different versions of the database on the individual pages for each country/completion/team/person with the FM2020/FM2019 etc. buttons on the top. Is that gone? Would really appreciate it if that could be brought back

2. Seems that the users cannot rank the person lists any more on the team pages. Would be great if the list can be ranked by name/age/position etc.

3. The jobs for staffs are missing on the club pages.

4. Persons that do not have faces are not showing up when you search for team cutouts. Only the ones that have a face are showing. Would be better if all can be displayed to make it easier to identify missing faces.

5. On the last note, it Would be great if the staffs and players are separately displayed as it used to be. Not the most important suggestion though.

Cheers!
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
Hi,

Thanks for revamping the websites. A few useful functionalities of the database seem to be missing after the revamp though.

1. It used to be easy to navigate through different versions of the database on the individual pages for each country/completion/team/person with the FM2020/FM2019 etc. buttons on the top. Is that gone? Would really appreciate it if that could be brought back
It's still possible just not in that way

2. Seems that the users cannot rank the person lists any more on the team pages. Would be great if the list can be ranked by name/age/position etc.
Known issue. Should be fixed soon hopefully

3. The jobs for staffs are missing on the club pages.
Known issue. Should be fixed soon hopefully

4. Persons that do not have faces are not showing up when you search for team cutouts. Only the ones that have a face are showing. Would be better if all can be displayed to make it easier to identify missing faces.
Which page is this from please?

5. On the last note, it Would be great if the staffs and players are separately displayed as it used to be. Not the most important suggestion though.
Filed in the would-be-nice-to-have list...

Cheers!
harribevs
4 years ago
11 months ago
1
I haven’t received my code yet for the new FM21 game. Can I have it please?
tuodi8shi
12 years ago
18 hours ago
6,001


Hi mon,

Thanks for the reply! For my first question, can you show me how to do that please?

For point number 4, I am talking about searching cut outs by team ID. Only people with a cutout are showing up.
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
I haven’t received my code yet for the new FM21 game. Can I have it please?

Post here about this.


Hi mon,

Thanks for the reply! For my first question, can you show me how to do that please?
When you use the database search page and type in a name, you can navigate using this dropdown menu

For point number 4, I am talking about searching cut outs by team ID. Only people with a cutout are showing up.
Can you give me a link for that please?
tuodi8shi
12 years ago
18 hours ago
6,001


Thanks for pointing me to the dropdown menu. However, I still believe it would make ID-ing players much easier and faster if we can bring back the previous single-click options on each individual page, if it is not too much to ask.

Secondly, if you compare the list of faces that are retrieved by searching with team ID and the list of players on the team profile, you can see that players that do not have a cutout are not showing up after search. They used to have an empty face.

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/submissions/1/search?fmid=1100
https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2020/team/1100/as-roma
Ernesttico
14 years ago
3 days ago
4,790
For point number 4, I am talking about searching cut outs by team ID. Only people with a cutout are showing up.

Can you give me a link for that please?


I think I understood what he's referring to. It's something I didn't notice until now, but it'd be useful to have it addressed.
In the old forum, when you would search for a team using the Search Cut Outs function, you would get a grid with all the faces of players/staff members of that team, even the people that still don't have a cut (there was a dark default face as a placeholder for them). Now in that grid there're only people with a cut, but not the others.

Example with Fiorentiina cut-outs grid: as you can see, comparing it with the team profile page, there's no trace of players like Lorenzo Petronelli, Elia Masini, Jonathan Spedalieri and many others that don't have a cut-out.
I used this page a lot to check at a glance which players/staff were still missing from a specific team. It'd be fantastic to have this feature available again (it shouldn't be too hard to re-implement this).

Edit: Damn, I saw tuodi8shi's reply only now!
mons
18 years ago
3 hours ago
90,878
Thanks for pointing me to the dropdown menu. However, I still believe it would make ID-ing players much easier and faster if we can bring back the previous single-click options on each individual page, if it is not too much to ask.

Secondly, if you compare the list of faces that are retrieved by searching with team ID and the list of players on the team profile, you can see that players that do not have a cutout are not showing up after search. They used to have an empty face.

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/submissions/1/search?fmid=1100
https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2020/team/1100/as-roma


I think I understood what he's referring to. It's something I didn't notice until now, but it'd be useful to have it addressed.
In the old forum, when you would search for a team using the Search Cut Outs function, you would get a grid with all the faces of players/staff members of that team, even the people that still don't have a cut (there was a dark default face as a placeholder for them). Now in that grid there're only people with a cut, but not the others.

Example with Fiorentiina cut-outs grid: as you can see, comparing it with the team profile page, there's no trace of players like Lorenzo Petronelli, Elia Masini, Jonathan Spedalieri and many others that don't have a cut-out.
I used this page a lot to check at a glance which players/staff were still missing from a specific team. It'd be fantastic to have this feature available again (it shouldn't be too hard to re-implement this).

Edit: Damn, I saw tuodi8shi's reply only now!

I see what you both mean. It was a good feature, I agree and it would be nice to have it back. I've added it as a feature request 👍
scottyxander
9 years ago
3 weeks ago
22
The site's great look wise but a bit meh for functionality.

First of all, FM21 isn't even out yet but there's a link for FM21 Essentials at the top of the page. Fair enough, it comes out this month but why is any mention of FM20 completely gone when we're still technically in the cycle for that game? I was trying to find the license fix files for my friend yesterday and it took forever to find because there's literally no mention of FM20 Essentials on the home page and there's a giant sea of kit threads in the "Football Manager Download" section. I had to change the 21 in https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2021/essentials to 20 to get to the FM20 Essentials page which of course is hidden.

Second, where's all the community made database files? It seems like they've all disappeared with the new site update seen as there isn't a single subforum dedicated to them. If someone wants an English Pyramid database then there's no way to find one on here.

Third, why aren't the forums sorted by game? For example, I know you can click on SS Kits and then choose what game you want them for but why not choose the game first and then you have all the kits, skins, database files, etc show up? Currently you have to do a lot of navigating to find all of those things for older games whereas if you chose the game first, they'd all be in one location.

Fourth, clicking the skins tab in the download section gives you a 404 error. Here's the link to it. https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/skins


Edit - Nvm about the second point. Most of the community made database files are in General FM Discussion for some weird reason. Shouldn't they be in their own dedicated subforum rather than a discussion forum?
Footygamer
18 years ago
4 hours ago
98,160
Don´t like too...In my opinion, the site is totally confusing ...

Okay, a question please:

How can I tell that there is a new / updated version of a download? So far, this has been shown under the download in green font for a few days.

For example here:

https://sortitoutsi.net/forums/14/ss-kits-forum?game=12&type=download

Under each download we can only see when the last comment was, but not when the download was last updated.


There's a whole new section for that! https://sortitoutsi.net/downloads/tracker

It's in yellow when you hover over "Downloads"

Or if you're on a page like the SS Kits page there's a link that says "File Tracker"
thebaddie
5 years ago
3 years ago
1
Hey there,

I love the new look, especially for the easy of use of the database section.

I've seen you reitroduced stars for rating and potential but I really miss the numeric value there (that at least it was visibile before, hovering with mouse).
Is it just a temporary thing due to the fm21 beta release?
2D Pitch FM
18 years ago
1 year ago
397
Love the new website.

Great job guys.
marcinhocameljr
7 years ago
11 months ago
1
Hey there,

I love the new look, especially for the easy of use of the database section.

I've seen you reitroduced stars for rating and potential but I really miss the numeric value there (that at least it was visibile before, hovering with mouse).
Is it just a temporary thing due to the fm21 beta release?


I miss the numeric value too. I hope it's temporary.
Andrew♣
14 years ago
2 years ago
238
There's a whole new section for that! https://sortitoutsi.net/downloads/tracker

It's in yellow when you hover over "Downloads"

Or if you're on a page like the SS Kits page there's a link that says "File Tracker"


sorry to bother you mate, did you get the pm's i sent you
kingrobbo
15 years ago
38 minutes ago
11,501
sorry to bother you mate, did you get the pm's i sent you


He is getting bombarded at the moment I am sure he will reply when he can. Thanks for your patience

cheers

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