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The ref just cost a lot of these players their last chance at winning a European trophy, against the run of play. A team reaction to a decision depends a lot on the circumstances, if we were being caned and then we got Nani sent off I doubt it would even be an issue, but that decision completely turned the game. Didn't your manager shove a linesman over a much, much smaller and inconsequential decision earlier this season, by the way?
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By Shola | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:14 PM
Very unlucky for Nani, feel very sorry for him. I think red cards like that on the Continent aren't that rare though.


But Manchester United are unbelievable, they really need to learn how to take a decision. I've never seen so many players and staff go into the referee's face and point like that. You can't buy class etc.


I'm 99.9% sure any team, if they had that happen, would have done exactly the same. In a game as big as this every decision is going to be scrutinised, nevermind one as bad as that.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:17 PM
The ref just cost a lot of these players their last chance at winning a European trophy, against the run of play. A team reaction to a decision depends a lot on the circumstances, if we were being caned and then we got Nani sent off I doubt it would even be an issue, but that decision completely turned the game. Didn't your manager shove a linesman over a much, much smaller and inconsequential decision earlier this season, by the way?


This.
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I can't even believe people are bothering to argue after that.

What's the point.

In fact, what is the point at all? Might have well have just saved everyone's time and decided the game with a coin flip.

If the referee refs again it will be too soon.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:17 PM
The ref just cost a lot of these players their last chance at winning a European trophy, against the run of play. A team reaction to a decision depends a lot on the circumstances, if we were being caned and then we got Nani sent off I doubt it would even be an issue, but that decision completely turned the game. Didn't your manager shove a linesman over a much, much smaller and inconsequential decision earlier this season, by the way?


Don't be ridiculous; Giggs is signed on for another season, so apart from Scholes (who wasn't involved) then every player has another chance at winning a European trophy

I don't have too much issue with the complaining to be honest, Rio's clapping was pretty funny. It'd be a bit boring if everyone was a good sport all the time - nice to have some (extra) controversy thown in
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I appreciate your optimism.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 06 March 2013 - 08:27 AM
I can't even believe people are bothering to argue after that.

What's the point.

In fact, what is the point at all? Might have well have just saved everyone's time and decided the game with a coin flip.

If the referee refs again it will be too soon.


As I said the cunt will probably end up being the referee in the final.
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The fucking cunt of a ref follows a bunch of Turkish teams Real Madrid, Barcelona and Ronaldo on Twitter.

Fucking cunt, couldn't wait to help out his idols I bet.
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http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000VSMeGIR.k.w/s/860/860/090310-209-Liverpool-Real-Madrid.jpg

Learn how to do it properly, Man Utd.
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99% of teams would not have acted like that. Manchester United went far too far in complaining. Eroded a lot of the sympathy generated by the decision.

Reckon the De Jong decision was probably playing on the ref's mind.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:40 PM
99% of teams would not have acted like that. Manchester United went far too far in complaining. Eroded a lot of the sympathy generated by the decision.

Reckon the De Jong decision was probably playing on the ref's mind.


Your comments are getting dumber and dumber. The De Jong decision?
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This is what happened to Cuneyt Cakir when he made a wrong decision in Turkey

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Obviously Howard Webb got a lot of criticism for not sending off Nigel de Jong for a 'similar' challenge.
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That was years ago, and it was a completely different situation. De Jong's looking at him and slams his studs right into the chest of a static player.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 06 March 2013 - 08:42 AM
Obviously Howard Webb got a lot of criticism for not sending off Nigel de Jong for a 'similar' challenge.


You mean a tackle were De Jong could see Alonso and almost drove his foot through his chest compared to Nani watching the ball come over his shoulder, playing the ball and grazing Arbeloa??
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Interesting point on Twitter- if Nani's accidental, not-looking grazing of Arbeloa constitutes dangerous foul play, then what about the moment when Diego Lopez, whilst looking at Vidic, misses the ball and punishes him in the face whilst trying to defend a corner?
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Not trying to be bitter (Sorry if I come across that way), but I'm delighted United are out, I'd think there would be something wrong with me if I were sad/disappointed to see them lose seeing as I'm a fan of one their fierce rivals. Also, I think most United fans on here would be elated if the same thing happened to Liverpool so don't call me out.

Predicting a Madrid-Bayern final if they both avoid each other in the quarters and semis.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 06 March 2013 - 08:47 AM
Interesting point on Twitter- if Nani's accidental, not-looking grazing of Arbeloa constitutes dangerous foul play, then what about the moment when Diego Lopez, whilst looking at Vidic, misses the ball and punishes him in the face whilst trying to defend a corner?


I was going to mention that when it happened, not the Nani incident, but the Diego Lopez punch.

Fair enough the keeper can come for the ball but if they miss and hit a player that should be a huge ban given a punch to the head could potentially have severe consequences... Just because it's a goalkeeper coming for a ball they shouldn't be allowed away with that.
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Also here is that violent tackle by Nani for anybody that missed it.

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By KEV0 | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:50 PM
I was going to mention that when it happened, not the Nani incident, but the Diego Lopez punch.

Fair enough the keeper can come for the ball but if they miss and hit a player that should be a huge ban given a punch to the head could potentially have severe consequences... Just because it's a goalkeeper coming for a ball they shouldn't be allowed away with that.




Your head has gone.
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By Crane | Permalink | On 06 March 2013 - 08:53 AM


Your head has gone.


Really??

Nani will probably get a three game ban for that challenge on Arbeloa. If a goalkeeper comes out to punch a ball clear, misses and cleans up a players head don't you see the potential danger waiting to happen there??

The NRL out here have banned the shoulder charge over fears it can lead to dangerous situations involving the head and I certainly wouldn't want to be punched in the head by a goalkeeper either.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:44 PM
That was years ago, and it was a completely different situation. De Jong's looking at him and slams his studs right into the chest of a static player.

By KEV0 | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:45 PM
You mean a tackle were De Jong could see Alonso and almost drove his foot through his chest compared to Nani watching the ball come over his shoulder, playing the ball and grazing Arbeloa??


You guys do know what inverted commas are right?

Obviously they are completely different challenges, but the end result is a similar outcome, of a player being kicked high. Obviously NDJ's was a hell of a lot worse. (I thought a yellow for Nani would be very harsh). But obviously ref's are going to be affected by high profile incidents, and the vague similarities of the incidents may have influenced the referee's decision. Also obviously the referee only saw the incident once at full speed, and didn't have the luxury of the replays.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 22:39 PM
The fucking cunt of a ref follows a bunch of Turkish teams Real Madrid, Barcelona and Ronaldo on Twitter.

Fucking cunt, couldn't wait to help out his idols I bet.


Got a link to his profile? Is it a genuine one?
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Seemed he didn't have the luxury of intelligence or vision, either. Shame. What I would say is that Dortmund were apparently fantastic tonight, I think we've said all we can about the ref in the United-Real game.
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So Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to rest him has backfired...

Don't worry, Howard Webb will be back in the starting line-up on Sunday.

(safety smiley because the Man Utd fans seem to be all on their periods tonight).
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"Even the fourth official was shocked and told us he had no idea what happened" - Mike Phelan

No idea if it's genuine, doing the rounds though.
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By Crane | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 23:04 PM
So Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to rest him has backfired...

Don't worry, Howard Webb will be back in the starting line-up on Sunday.

(safety smiley because the Man Utd fans seem to be all on their periods tonight).

I think the majority of us have been perfectly reasonable in what we have said tbh. I just think its sad you feel the need to goad people, it's must feel nice knowing that your club will never be involved in a game as important as this for quite a while so you don't have to suffer through it too
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By BR. | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 23:01 PM
Got a link to his profile? Is it a genuine one?

Seems to be: https://twitter.com/RefereeCuneyt

These are his recent red cards as well.

Tonight: Nani

Dec 2012: Cahill (Chelsea) vs Corninthians
Fifa club world cup final

Sept 2012: Gerrard (England) vs Ukraina
FIFA World Cup Qualifier

Apr 2012: Terry (Chelsea) vs Barcelona
UCL Semi

March 2011: Balotelli (Man City) vs Dynamo Kiev
Europa League round of 16

Incredible record.

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