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This file will need to be re-applied if/when official patches/updates are released to ensure full compatibility. This is due to the fact that some files which are removed when installing this file are automatically re-installed by Steam when official patches come out.
Some of these changes, ESPECIALLY THE CLUB NAMES, do NOT apply in existing save-games. There's a workaround for that in the first post.
The sortitoutsi real names fix changes the instances of fake names in Football Manager 2023 to the proper, real life names for awards, cities, stadiums and competitions, in cases where the actual name is not licensed, such as Premier League displaying instead of Premier Division. It will also fix the fact that the German and Japanese National teams don't call up real players. These are all fully save-game compatible.
There is also a club name changes file, which changes the names of clubs in a way which ensures that any nicknames entered in the default database are retained. This file includes the proper names for Brazilian, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian (including Napoli) and French clubs, as well as Manchester Utd, to circumvent licensing restrictions. It also adds real-life media and journalists, encompassing most major footballing nations and continents. Brazilian clubs' text colours are also changed through an editor data file. Another editor data file creates the Ajax non-playing staff and the German national team manager missing from the database due to licensing restrictions. Finally, it includes a small file which corrects the 3-Letter competition names to correspond with any changes made in the lnc files. For all the files in this paragraph to work, however, you will need to start a new game.
Follow the below instructions to install this version of this file
STEP 1.
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Notes: \Program Files (x86)\
could be \Program Files\
depending on your set up.
Equivalent folders for PC players on Gamepass
PC players on Gamepass
I am led to understand that mods are enabled by default this year, so nothing needs to be done other than the below
OPEN
Xboxgames\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Xboxgames\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Xboxgames\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Equivalent folders for PC players on Epic Games
Epic Games Installation
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2023\data\database\db\2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2023\data\database\db\2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2023\data\database\db\2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Notes: \Program Files (x86)\
could be \Program Files\
depending on your set up.
Equivalent folders for Mac users
Mac installation
OPEN
/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
The easiest way to get to these folders is by going to Finder > Go > Go to Folder and copy and paste these exact paths and you will be taken to the right places ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2023/data/database/db/2300/
AND
~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2023/data/database/db/2330/
AND
~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2023/data/database/db/2340/
Alternatively you can get to the Library folder by simply selecting Go from the top bar and holding "alt" key - The Library folder suddenly appears on the drop down menu
For Mac Lion users, the Library folder will be hidden. Use this link to find out how to show it.
For those struggling to find the Steam and Steam Apps folder etc using Mac with the new OS High Sierra, this link below shows how you can unhide your Library folder which will then let you find the other folders.
Equivalent folders for Xbox players on Gamepass
Xbox on Gamepass installation
OPEN
navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂
Xboxgames>Football manager 2023>content>data>database>db>2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂
Xboxgames>Football manager 2023>content>data>database>db>2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂
Xboxgames>Football manager 2023>content>data>database>db>2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
If you can't find where your Xboxgames folder is, you can find it by clicking on “More actions” button (three dots that appears when you move your mouse cursor over Football Manager 2023 on Xbox app), then “Manage” → “Files” tab → “Browse…” button.
Equivalent folders for FM TOUCH 23 on Mac users
FM TOUCH 23 Mac Os installation
OPEN
/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Equivalent folders for Steam Deck users
Steam Deck installation
if game is store on external micro SD card
OPEN
devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
if game is stored on internal storage
OPEN
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
STEP 2:
COPY the dbc, edt and lnc folders from the downloaded pack
STEP 3:
PASTE them into each of your respective folders mentioned in step 1.
These are what the respective folder structures should look like in the 2340 folder:
dbc:
dbc/permanent:
edt/permanent:
lnc:
STEP 4:
COPY the 9 files located in the EDITOR DATA FILES folder in the downloaded pack
STEP 5
PASTE to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2023\editor data
This is also the same folder to be used for Gamepass.
Equivalent folder for Mac
Users/YOUR Mac USERNAME/Library/Application Support/Sports Interactive
By default this folder is hidden, so to access you need to do as follows:
Open Finder
Click ‘Go’ from the menubar
Press and hold down the ‘Option’ (Alt) key
This will bring up the ‘Library’, click to enter then go to ‘Application Support’ -> ‘Sports Interactive’ -> ‘Football Manager 2023’
Equivalent folder for Steam Deck
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / compatdata / 1904540 / pfx / drive_c / users / steamuser / My Documents / Sports Interactive / Football Manager 2023 / editor data
This should be what your editor data folder looks like now. There may initially be a config.xml file in this folder and it can be safely overwritten; it is generated by FM every time the game starts.
To make sure the files have been applied correctly, go to English Premier Division in your saved game, and it should be renamed to Premier League. If you are in the middle of a save-game when you install this download, Japanese and German national teams will be populated in the next instance that players are called up, and not immediately. Do keep in mind that this file does not add Japan-based players, who are not in the official database and will need a third-party add-on to be created and added.
Club names are only changed if you apply the editor data files before starting a new game. For a workaround if you've already started a new save-game, then please read the opening post of this thread.
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h3lp3r
I just downloaded and changed the files again (although I downloaded the same 2.0 version when it came out), but the German national team is still fake. Any ideas?
EDIT: Just read some previous comments and I'll check and see if the national team is populated with real players next time they're called up. Weird that I've played for 3 in-game years and it's still just fake players.
Jake Coombes
MAC ISSUE
As of downloading the newest update, whenever I use the editor data files my game crashes on startup. Sometimes it crashes with no error message yet other times it will give me the error message seen below.
The only solution time I have had this issue is with the new editor data files in the folder, once removing them the game loads fine.
Am not 100% sure which file it is that is causing the issue as have not played around with it enough, however it is something that could do with being looked into ASAP if it's a common issue.
mons
I haven't had any reports of this issue, which would seem to indicate the issue might be related to something you're doing incorrectly at your end.
Where are you placing the editor data files? Can I see the exact path please?
lloydizzle92
I have a similar issue. Germany is half real and half fake.
mons
When did you apply this fix, and did you wait for the national teams to call up players?
Biggeeder
Just downloaded the updated file and club names like Napoli, Sociedad, Betis haven't changed. I downloaded and followed each step.
mons
And did you apply the fix before or after having started a career?
Jake Coombes
Every .fmf file currently in there is working with 0 issue, as with every other folder like graphics etc
mons
I haven't received any other reports of the editor data files not working with Macs in the month since the fix has been available, so I really can't see a reason why they should be causing this apparent conflict.
And if you load up any one of the editor data files from this download (instead of all of them) does the issue still materialise?
lloydizzle92
Last week and reapplied this week to see if any files were missing. Japan is fine but Germany is not.
They have since had the Nations League call ups and competition.
I added a manager to see what's going on but couldn't remove them.
It's 2030 so the current team has predominantly retired.
They basically have a 46 man squad lol
mons
Crikey, and the edt/permanent and lnc folders are as shown in the screenshots in the main post then, right? Must be something different that SI have made for this FM version then 😕
brunospf
Vocês tem problemas com os nomes dos estádios? Na UCL meu estádio muda de nome.
mons
Sponsor names do not appear in stadium names within European competitions for licensing reasons which cannot be edited, e.g. it'll be the Arsenal Stadium, not the Emirates stadium.
lloydizzle92
They are exactly like the screenshots shown, yes. I will check again after France have finished spanking my National team.
Ignacio Espinoza Osses
Hi. Name changes in Chile please.
This are the real name:
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5250792 "Campeonato Nacional AFP PlanVital" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5250792 "Campeonato Nacional AFP PlanVital" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5251645 "Copa Chile EASY" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5251645 "Copa Chile EASY" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5250793 "Campeonato Nacional Ascenso Betsson" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5250793 "Ascenso Betsson" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 75034145 "Supercopa EASY" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 75034145 "Supercopa EASY" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 75034137 "Campeonato Nacional de Segunda División - Grupo TX" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 75034137 "Segunda Profesional - Grupo TX" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 75042416 " Campeonato de Proyección GATORADE - Sub 21" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 75042416 "Proyección GATORADE - Sub 21" ""
Johnsey
Sorry if previously asked.
Mine is showing team's full names. So when looking at table it will say Huddersfield Town instead of Huddersfield or Newcastle United instead of Newcastle.
I like seeing the full name if I'm looking at a specific team in detail but is there a way to make it use the shorter name when looking at League Tables or the Add Manager screen?
mons
Have you downloaded any other editor data files? That's not the way they appear in the game by default, nor when using the files from this download.
b13v3r
Thx again Mons for all your time you put in this. For any future update:
Belgium 2th division, called in game: “1B Pro League” (unique ID 2)
has a new name: “Challenger Pro League”
(https://www.proleague.be/nl/cpl)
lloydizzle92
Just an update. After the first call-ups the 23 greyed players didn't remove. But after this recent call-up, they have been removed. I'm guessing I could have applied the fix during a call-up period or day and that confused it a bit.
It it working as intended and seemed to be a one-off incident.
mons
Good to hear, thanks for getting back to me 👍
Johnsey
I do indeed have others. I think I downloaded a realism add-on which added quite a few editor data files. I was going through them to see if in have changed the short name of a club but I might just remove them all and see if that fixes it.
EDIT - Found it, it was actually a league add on data file that was the culprit. Thanks for quick response, mate!
EUA
For me the only thing is dont fix is the brazilian kits, any tip ?
Samet Toprak
Hey all, first of all thanks for the Effort and the Work you all put in.
I have updated and replaced everything as mentioned above.
Cross-checking on how it is supposed to look like is also confirmed.
However when I want to start a new career this is what is says see picture attached.
I can not choose any club at all anymore.
Can somebody please help me out?
Thanks
mons
Click advanced setup, and take it from there.
@EUA, that fix is explained in the main post as requiring the files to be in place before starting a new game.
Samet Toprak
Thanks a lot @mons for the quick reply, one fup question:
If I wanted to update the game further with other DLC's for instance for Logo's or Player Pictures, are those corrupting your patch?
Better question, is there a package for these updates from SortItOutSi.net?
Thanks again.
mons
Graphics work independently so there's no reason why you shouldn't download them. Have a look at this page for other recommended files 👍
John Yukii
It must be this download, I've tested so many things and the only explanation are the .lnc files from this download - and I think I've just found the issue.
In “euro and vanarama names.lnc” at the top of the file you have:
# UEFA Europa Conference League
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1301394 "UEFA Europa Conference League" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301394 "UEFA Europa Conf. League" ""
"COMP_3LETTER_NAME_CHANGE" 1301394 "UECL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1301394 "欧足联欧洲协会联赛" 1000002
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301394 "欧洲协会联赛" 1000002
"COMP_3LETTER_NAME_CHANGE" 1301394 "欧协联" 1000002
This ID is actually for the Champions League. I've confirmed this because I appended “TEST” on to the end of this string, closed and reopened the game, and sure enough the competition now reads “UEFA Europa Conference League TEST” - even though it is the champions league.
I'm bewildered as to how this isn't an issue for anyone else though…
mons
I don't have a file with that name in this download 🤷🏻♂️
Are you using a file from someone else perchance?
evh5150
I'm playing Football Manager Console on PC from Gamepass and I can't find an editor data folder in which to paste the 9 files? In that case, do I just copy the folder and its contents?
mons
Yeah, I guess that'll be fine.