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If you have any issues, first read the FAQ.
This file will need to be re-applied if/when official patches/updates are released to ensure full compatibility. This is due to the fact that some files which are removed when installing this file are automatically re-installed by Steam when official patches come out.
Some of these changes, ESPECIALLY THE CLUB NAMES, do NOT apply in existing save-games. There's a workaround for that in the first post.
The sortitoutsi real names fix changes the instances of fake names in Football Manager 2023 to the proper, real life names for awards, cities, stadiums and competitions, in cases where the actual name is not licensed, such as Premier League displaying instead of Premier Division. It will also fix the fact that the German and Japanese National teams don't call up real players. These are all fully save-game compatible.
There is also a club name changes file, which changes the names of clubs in a way which ensures that any nicknames entered in the default database are retained. This file includes the proper names for Brazilian, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian (including Napoli) and French clubs, as well as Manchester Utd, to circumvent licensing restrictions. It also adds real-life media and journalists, encompassing most major footballing nations and continents. Brazilian clubs' text colours are also changed through an editor data file. Another editor data file creates the Ajax non-playing staff and the German national team manager missing from the database due to licensing restrictions. Finally, it includes a small file which corrects the 3-Letter competition names to correspond with any changes made in the lnc files. For all the files in this paragraph to work, however, you will need to start a new game.
Follow the below instructions to install this version of this file
STEP 1.
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Notes: \Program Files (x86)\ could be \Program Files\ depending on your set up.
Equivalent folders for PC players on Gamepass
PC players on Gamepass
I am led to understand that mods are enabled by default this year, so nothing needs to be done other than the below
OPEN
Xboxgames\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Xboxgames\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Xboxgames\Football Manager 2023\data\database\db\2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Equivalent folders for PC players on Epic Games
Epic Games Installation
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2023\data\database\db\2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2023\data\database\db\2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2023\data\database\db\2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Notes: \Program Files (x86)\ could be \Program Files\ depending on your set up.
Equivalent folders for Mac users
Mac installation
OPEN
/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
The easiest way to get to these folders is by going to Finder > Go > Go to Folder and copy and paste these exact paths and you will be taken to the right places ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2023/data/database/db/2300/
AND
~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2023/data/database/db/2330/
AND
~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2023/data/database/db/2340/
Alternatively you can get to the Library folder by simply selecting Go from the top bar and holding "alt" key - The Library folder suddenly appears on the drop down menu
For Mac Lion users, the Library folder will be hidden. Use this link to find out how to show it.
For those struggling to find the Steam and Steam Apps folder etc using Mac with the new OS High Sierra, this link below shows how you can unhide your Library folder which will then let you find the other folders.
Equivalent folders for Xbox players on Gamepass
Xbox on Gamepass installation
OPEN
navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂
Xboxgames>Football manager 2023>content>data>database>db>2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂
Xboxgames>Football manager 2023>content>data>database>db>2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂
Xboxgames>Football manager 2023>content>data>database>db>2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
If you can't find where your Xboxgames folder is, you can find it by clicking on “More actions” button (three dots that appears when you move your mouse cursor over Football Manager 2023 on Xbox app), then “Manage” → “Files” tab → “Browse…” button.
Equivalent folders for FM TOUCH 23 on Mac users
FM TOUCH 23 Mac Os installation
OPEN
/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
Equivalent folders for Steam Deck users
Steam Deck installation
if game is store on external micro SD card
OPEN
devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
if game is stored on internal storage
OPEN
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2300
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2330
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
OPEN
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2023 / data / database / db / 2340
DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
STEP 2:
COPY the dbc, edt and lnc folders from the downloaded pack
STEP 3:
PASTE them into each of your respective folders mentioned in step 1.
These are what the respective folder structures should look like in the 2340 folder:
dbc:
dbc/permanent:
edt/permanent:
lnc:
STEP 4:
COPY the 9 files located in the EDITOR DATA FILES folder in the downloaded pack
STEP 5
PASTE to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2023\editor data
This is also the same folder to be used for Gamepass.
Equivalent folder for Mac
Users/YOUR Mac USERNAME/Library/Application Support/Sports Interactive
By default this folder is hidden, so to access you need to do as follows:
Open Finder
Click ‘Go’ from the menubar
Press and hold down the ‘Option’ (Alt) key
This will bring up the ‘Library’, click to enter then go to ‘Application Support’ -> ‘Sports Interactive’ -> ‘Football Manager 2023’
Equivalent folder for Steam Deck
devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / compatdata / 1904540 / pfx / drive_c / users / steamuser / My Documents / Sports Interactive / Football Manager 2023 / editor data
This should be what your editor data folder looks like now. There may initially be a config.xml file in this folder and it can be safely overwritten; it is generated by FM every time the game starts.
To make sure the files have been applied correctly, go to English Premier Division in your saved game, and it should be renamed to Premier League. If you are in the middle of a save-game when you install this download, Japanese and German national teams will be populated in the next instance that players are called up, and not immediately. Do keep in mind that this file does not add Japan-based players, who are not in the official database and will need a third-party add-on to be created and added.
Club names are only changed if you apply the editor data files before starting a new game. For a workaround if you've already started a new save-game, then please read the opening post of this thread.
- Date Created
- 20 Oct 2022 16:14:11
- Date Updated
- 09 May 2023 15:55:36
- Last Comment
- 05 Oct 2024 14:43:16
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mons
When installing this download, you're asked to delete the dbc, edt and lnc folders, and install the ones from this download instead. However, you seem to have merged the folders from this download into the existing ones, which means the files won't work as intended, because the licensing-related files that this download deletes are thus still there.
Follow the instructions and the download will work 👍
Taylan#2963
A new Minor patch is out, we don't need to reapply this do we?
mons
No need whatsoever. Carry on 👍
Ryan123vvv123
This fixed the Roma name change, but changed Man Utd to “Man UFC” and also changed Napoli to its fake name.
Will this be updated?
mons
Read the FAQ and apply the workaround in the first post.
MattStatto
Forgive me for my ignorance but I've just installed the 23.3 update (or whatever the latest major one was) and I've re-downloaded and re-applied the real names fix and for some reason, all of the leagues are back to having their correct names, except the Premier League. On the player history screen it displays correctly as ‘Premier League’ but on the actual league screen it shows as ‘Premier Division’. How do I fix this, I've tried going into the file and renaming it and then saving it again but it doesn't seem to want to change it, I'm a bit stumped.
As you can see on the screenshots, the player screen says Premier League, but the league screen shows Premier Division…
If this has been addressed already, I apologise, but I'm struggling to find where I go to search a particular thread. Any help would be appreciated!
mons
@MattStatto, can I have screenshots of the 2300 and 2330 folders (and editor data folder) shown in the main post as they are on your system?
Alviinhui
Forgive me for my ignorance, but it seems that I am unable to access the staff page of the Japan national team when I am coaching the team. May I know if there is any solution for that?
mons
That's a licensing-related issue I don't believe can be resolved, or at least I don't know how to.
Qvordrup
You can unlock japans graphics using this: https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm23-mod-unlock-japan-club-overview.html
@mons FYI
explosivewinger
Since this ID is used for a new competition in FM23, the name change for this ID needs to be removed
Competition and Other Improvement.lnc
#Indonesia
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 41045103 "Liga 3 Group 1" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 41045103 "Liga 3 Group 1" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 41045104 "Liga 3 Group 2" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 41045104 "Liga 3 Group 2" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 41045105 "Liga 3 Group 3" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 41045105 "Liga 3 Group 3" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 41045106 "Liga 3 Group 4" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 41045106 "Liga 3 Group 4" ""
Penton Wong
Hi Mons,
Sorry for the late reply. The following are the screenshots you requested.
2300 Folders
2330 Folders
Thanks in advance!
mons
If you compare the screenshots in the main post with yours, you'll see that they aren't the same. I'm not sure what happened, but perhaps you merged the folders from this download into the ones on your system.
You need to delete the dbc, edt and lnc folders from your system. Then replace them with the ones from this download.
theterrier
I have followed the instructions to the letter but in my save game the German & Japan national teams are not real names. It worked on the first 2300 original db but not on 2330. When I do start a new game however both these national teams have real players. Is there a fix for this?
mons
Make sure both the 2300 and 2330 folders look like the screenshots in the main post. If you think that's the case, can I have screenshots of all these folders?
theterrier
Hi Mons they look the same to me
mons
Did you play your save after downloading the official 23.3 update but before applying this fix perchance?
theterrier
Yes becasue FM updates automativally and I wasn't aware at the time it had been updated to 233o
mons
Since the files are installed correctly, the correct national teams will take form next time there is a call-up.
ryanduthie2006
why hasnt roma been changed
AKMC
It's not just Roma. I don't know WHAT happened with licencing and serie A in the last few weeks, but the game is a complete mess as a result of it.
I've had a pretty rubbish weekend and wanted to spend the last couple of hours unwinding on the virtual pitch and find… this. Next time SI says “We have an update for you”, I think I might just change the locks.
mons
This has been the case since day one, which is why this file exists. If you apply this fix before starting a new game, all is solved. If you apply this fix after a save game is started, all you need to do is follow the workaround in the first post, which shouldn't take you more than a few seconds, and all would be solved.
AKMC
Except for the logos, which are not so easily dealt with.
mons
The game assigns graphics to a team's Unique ID, which remains constant irrespective of licensing issues. Naturally, it will depend on what logopack you use and whether they include the logo you're lookin for, but there shouldn't be any issue at all with logos displaying merely because you downloaded the official patch.
AKMC
Good point. Before this evening I have never used a logopack, and just used the “vanilla” ones. Facepack? Yes. Real names patch? Yes. But a logopack… no. I've just started to download one which I'm hoping will resolve the problem. (I had planned to start a new save tonight anyway, so that's not an issue.)
mons
You can add, remove and edit graphics at any point after you start a career btw 😉
tonitche
Hi !
Thanks for the nice fix as always
But i got a small issue since i've applied it, all french clubs nicknames are gone and blank now.
I dont know what to do
Thanks
mons
Did you apply the workaround to get the club name changes?
tonitche
No i didn't, i'm starting a new save. Nicknames are working for other countries. And everything else is working just fine so i cant figure why french clubs dont have nicknames anymore
Edit : i looked at the city club and stadium names.lnc file and i've deleted all the “France in french” section and let the previous one with the “” instead of “french”
Now it's working like a charm
Thanks for your help
Kos88
Hey @mons you should consider making an upgrade based on the latest FM patch, they also add a bunch of wonderkids (like Arsenal's Ethan Nwaneri) which are not available when I install your latest version of the fix