Number 1
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To be fair, we've had 3 years of Sissoko out wide so maybe he's now finally figured out what he's doing there.
Poe
17 years ago
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Hilarious how fans on twitter seem to be slating Haidara's first touch and insisting Sissoko should only play on the wing.


Maybe Pardew was right?


Haidara's touch is awful but he's still a much more comfortable left back than Paul Dummett is.

Sissoko's best play today came when starting central and running into a wide position rather than as an out and out winger, too.
Shola
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I don't really think Sissoko is too different on the right or the centre tbh, just loving the complete 180.

Also disgusting too see McClaren blaming the fans. It's not my fault Steve, stop blaming me for your 0% win record.
Number 1
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Jesus wept de Jong is injured again.

I don't think there's been a 180 on Sissoko out-wide overnight, although a number of the skills kinda crossover. But seeing as we've had 3 years of on-off trying Sissoko in a wide position, it makes sense that eventually, he'd figure out how the fuck he's playing there. Well, maybe. Been only one game so far so we'll see how it goes.
Poe
17 years ago
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Another 3 quality signings still needed Mr Ashley/Charnley

3 in just isn't enough.
Shola
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Another 3 quality signings still needed Mr Ashley/Charnley

3 in just isn't enough.


All of them right backs please.
Poe
17 years ago
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Imagine if we stopped buying midfielders and bought some defenders
Shola
16 years ago
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Aye. 30% possession. Anyone can see that is some great midfield play.
Poe
17 years ago
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Aye. 30% possession. Anyone can see that is some great midfield play.


Tbf we beat them 2-0 a few year ago with less.

I think we could do with a DM but in terms of AMC's we're fine.

Not that possession means anything, or signing different midfielders would change anything.
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I don't really think Sissoko is too different on the right or the centre tbh, just loving the complete 180.

Also disgusting too see McClaren blaming the fans. It's not my fault Steve, stop blaming me for your 0% win record.


You lot always blame the manager/team don't ya. Dennis Wise will replace Steve imo
Shola
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Tbf we beat them 2-0 a few year ago with less.

I think we could do with a DM but in terms of AMC's we're fine.

Not that possession means anything, or signing different midfielders would change anything.


Aye. Being unable to pass, run or tackle is fine. Letting Cork, Sigurdsson and Shelvey run the game for 90 minutes is great. Can't believe Newcastle conceded two goals after being penned in for 90 minutes.

I just watched Fabianski, Williams, Taylor, Naughton and Fernandez and I literally couldn't say anything about their performance. They had nothing to do. They could all be terrible and we still wouldn't know because we got nowhere near them.
Number 1
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Multiple sources claiming Thauvin is close for a £12million deal.

To be fair, I felt we needed more width. But I also still think we need at least two more defenders. Still, various sources have said the club wants three more in buy August 31st. So that's 1/3rd of the way there.
Shola
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Don't think I've ever seen a club more underwhelmed at a big money signing.
Poe
17 years ago
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I'm baffled why everyone has wrote him off straight away, at least let him play shit first.

I think he'll do well, tbf.

Still need defensive reinforcements though, hopefully they'll arrive too.
Number 1
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Thauvin in, with a deal costing £13million and allowing Remy Cabella to move to Marseille on a season-long loan deal. Shame Cabella didn't work out, but them's the breaks I guess. Hopefully Thauvin works in his wide-role.

Now, as argued (and hopefully) for a full back. Although not to look a gift horse in the mouth - still around £50million in players bought with nobody out.
Poe
17 years ago
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I'm guessing sissoko will leave.

Hopefully not but we can never have nice things under mike ashley without something going awry.
Shola
16 years ago
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That'll be the 4th time we've sold Sissoko this window as well.
Number 1
16 years ago
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Would that really be a bad thing? He's annoyingly inconsistent and publicly said he wanted to leave three times in January.
Poe
17 years ago
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won't be a bad thing if he's replaced.

Be a very bad thing if he isn't.
Shola
16 years ago
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Europe's 4th biggest net spend and still moaning about a rumour that never looked in the slightest bit concrete.
Poe
17 years ago
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Europe's 4th biggest net spend and still moaning about a rumour that never looked in the slightest bit concrete.


I'd be more than happy to see him leave as his attitude is awful at times but I just know he wouldn't be replaced.

We bought heavily last year, didn't stop them selling two players we could have done with in the run in towards relegation.

Hopefully things have actually changed, as you can't really fault the club and the way it's ran since McClaren arrived, but can't really blame people for the pessimism after the last few seasons.
Shola
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Yanga-Mbiwa left in August. ffs. And Santon still played a grand total of 0 minutes.

And yeah Charnley + Carr clearly got it totally wrong in their post-Pardew running of the club. But Newcastle were in midtable when Santon left with 30 points. The club would literally need to grind out 6 points from 15 games to stay up. It would be actually mental and relegation was pretty much unforseeable at that point.


On the subject of Sissoko being 'replaced' - Does Wijnaldum not exist then. Everyone was very upset at 'Cashley' who was only signing Wijnaldum so he could 'CASH IN' on Sissoko. Who I believe was signing for Liverpool that week.
Poe
17 years ago
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Yeah, but we should be moving forward, not continually selling players and replacing them. Wijnaldum isn't a Sissoko replacement, he's a completely different player and adds more quality to a squad which was awful last year.

Buy players to add to the squad and strengthen it.

I hate the whole we need to sell Williamson before buying another centre back carry on too - just don't register him? He's clearly not good enough for the Premier League so why do we NEED to register him if he's here?
Shola
16 years ago
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Yeah, but we should be moving forward, not continually selling players and replacing them. Wijnaldum isn't a Sissoko replacement, he's a completely different player and adds more quality to a squad which was awful last year.

Buy players to add to the squad and strengthen it.

I hate the whole we need to sell Williamson before buying another centre back carry on too - just don't register him? He's clearly not good enough for the Premier League so why do we NEED to register him if he's here?


And we haven't sold him. And yeah Newcastle have bought four players at immense cost this summer. They've only lost one of note, who did very little last season.

That Williamson think either looks completely wrong. Or Charnley and Carr are trying to pressure him into moving more.

I've done the sums. - Abdennour - £15m transfer fee, £50kpw - 5 year deal = £12.5m, Misc. costs £2.5m = £30m transfer overall

Williamson - Transfer fee £1m, £30k?p/w q year deal = £1.5m = £2.5m

Newcastle only willing to spend £30m if they can raise £2.5m? Bullshit imo.
Shola
16 years ago
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CONTROVERSIAL OPINION.

But actually reckon Williamson-Mbemba might be Newcastle's best defence.

Colo-Mbemba - A bit short
Mbemba-Taylor - Mbemba seems quite combatitive - wouldn't like to see Taylor's calming influence on that.
ergo Williamson-Mbemba - Let Mbemba do his stuff - While Williamson acts as a steady pair of hands behind him.

The CB equivalent of Emre-Faye
Number 1
16 years ago
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Williamson - steady pair of hands... nope.

I think Steven Taylor is better than Williamson, or at least he would be more convincingly if his limbs weren't made of felt and he kept having 5+ month injury layoffs.

Abdennour doesn't convince me as a rumoour, given I don't see us spending more than £10million on a player in the rest of the window. Which is fair enough - we're currently Europe's 5th largest net spenders after all, and we're probably heading for an FFP rule break (although granted UEFA don't seem to care anymore).

Who knows. We'll see what happens I guess. Still don't buy the line we still maintain a passing interest in a Mr. C. Austin from West London.
Poe
17 years ago
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Yeah you're overrating Williamson.

He's god awful.
Shola
16 years ago
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I mean steady as in literally steady. As in he doesn't do daft things very often.

Bit ironic how Mbemba was by far Newcastle's worst defender today.

Massive difference when the midfield plays well, and Tim Krul actually plays like he can, rather than as a lanky disaster.
Number 1
16 years ago
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Nah Williamson doesn't really fit any of those descriptions.

I do think that Steven Taylor is one of our better defenders, and him & Colo together looked secure as a CB combination. Hopefully we'll keep him fit for once. Mbemba's still learning but his game wasn't too bad, even if BT kept hammering him as a weak link (I heard - watched a US stream on mute, like I normally do). Also Haidara had a better game than he had against Saints/Swans.

Dunno how much helped by the fact Man United were playing without an in-form striker, and I do think Anita and Colback had fairly anonymous first 45's. Krul was good though. For once. Thauvin also looked half-decent in his 20 cameo. If only he was about 1mph quicker - we'd have got that later winner. But oh well.

In terms of ins, McClaren said they may still bring in one big money buy. Do you think we still need such a buy?
Shola
16 years ago
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I'd prefer they bought someone than didn't.

Good to seen top defender and international man of mystery Mapou Yangs-Mbiwa give away a goal 7 minutes into his Lyon debut. In his defence Fournier is shite and it's an unfamiliar league.

Anyway I reckon Lacazette will be keen to come. Yanga will tell him we'll not boo him regardless of how shite he plays because he was expensive.

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