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There's a big difference between somebody like Jesé or Sterling being on there (young and inexperienced, but clearly a lot of potential) and somebody like Shelvey being there - he's very average.

It's got feck all to do with Liverpool.
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 03:27 AM
There's a few other names that surely shouldn't be on there before we got to Shelvey and Sterling but hey hoe, it's Liverpool.


More like it's posted in the Liverpool thread so we're talking about Liverpool right, not every other player on the list.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:44 PM


You're really going to get defensive about something that's pretty much spot on.


Your point is clearly irrelevant though because theres players like Jese in there who have only played 1 top flight game and the rest of his appearances have been in the reserves. Obviously they are taken into account, so you cant just say "how can Sterling be in there hes only played x amount of games" when he played consistently well in our reserve and youth squads last season
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:43 PM
Well Jese starred at the Euro u19s, that's probably why he's there.

So did Suso, who's also played more first team games but isn't on the list
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:46 PM
More like it's posted in the Liverpool thread so we're talking about Liverpool right, not every other player on the list.


Doesn't mean you have to uproar about it because there's Liverpool players involved.

I for one thought Shelvey was very shite before the season started, but he's been one of our best players this season. Rodgers has a lot of faith in him as well.
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 04:02 AM
Doesn't mean you have to uproar about it because there's Liverpool players involved.

I for one thought Shelvey was very shite before the season started, but he's been one of our best players this season. Rodgers has a lot of faith in him as well.


Uproar? Really?

All I said was they both shouldn't be there, which is true imo and then KL starts the defensive bullshit that Liverpool fans on here have recently started. We're talking about a list for the best young player in Europe over the previous season, if you think Shelvey or Sterling are in the top 21 I think it was then you need medication.

EDIT: I'll also point out I said Sterling will be a very good player, but lately it's like how dare you say something about Liverpool or a Liverpool player, must defend club no matter what!!
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There's a few names that would raise an eyebrow before we even get to our two, so I don't see why you'd complain specifically about our two.
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By rossiheslopi | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:02 PM
So did Suso, who's also played more first team games but isn't on the list

Ok. Not sure what you're getting at though? I'm just offering a reason as to why Jese got nominated seeing as it's being questioned.

He was the star of the tournament, top scorer and scored the winning goal in the final.
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 04:13 AM
There's a few names that would raise an eyebrow before we even get to our two, so I don't see why you'd complain specifically about our two.


Well I've seen them play a lot more than others on that list, they stand out, this is a forum where the majority of people support clubs from England. It's also a thread about Liverpool, so I'm remaining on topic, talking about Liverpool.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:10 PM
Uproar? Really?

All I said was they both shouldn't be there, which is true imo and then KL starts the defensive bullshit that Liverpool fans on here have recently started. We're talking about a list for the best young player in Europe over the previous season, if you think Shelvey or Sterling are in the top 21 I think it was then you need medication.

EDIT: I'll also point out I said Sterling will be a very good player, but lately it's like how dare you say something about Liverpool or a Liverpool player, must defend club no matter what!!


Thats the kind of "bullshit" we have to put up with when we defend our club or one of our players.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:14 PM
Ok. Not sure what you're getting at though? I'm just offering a reason as to why Jese got nominated seeing as it's being questioned.

He was the star of the tournament, top scorer and scored the winning goal in the final.

Just saying going on the basis of having a good tournament at the u19's then Suso should be on the list too considering he had a very good tournament as well. I'm not going on a big defensive about Liverpool here as personally I'm surprised Sterling and Shelvey are on the list considering they've only come to the fore this season, even if they undoubtably have been very good in the games they have played.
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By rossiheslopi | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:37 PM
Just saying going on the basis of having a good tournament at the u19's then Suso should be on the list too considering he had a very good tournament as well. I'm not going on a big defensive about Liverpool here as personally I'm surprised Sterling and Shelvey are on the list considering they've only come to the fore this season, even if they undoubtably have been very good in the games they have played.

Jese didn't just have a good tournament, he was by far the standout player. The Euro u19s is not exactly a major tournament so they're not going to pick every player who looked decent. Jese is the only one of that Spanish team to get nominated for the award. Suso was good but so were many of the Spanish players.
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Kudos to Rossi for being the only rational Liverpool fan here.

Also, whoever said Jesé had only played once for Real and played for their reserves mostly, he played for Castilla in Segunda which is a significantly higher level than Reserves.
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:47 PM
Kudos to Rossi for being the only rational Liverpool fan here.

Also, whoever said Jesé had only played once for Real and played for their reserves mostly, he played for Castilla in Segunda which is a significantly higher level than Reserves.

I do try, although in the heat of the moment I can be just as bad as the rest
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Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has likened Everton to Stoke, claiming their rivals used long-ball tactics during Sunday's Merseyside derby.
The Premier League match at Goodison Park ended 2-2 after Luis Suarez's late 'goal' for Liverpool was ruled out.
Gerrard, 32, said: "Every single time they get the ball to the goalkeeper it comes in long.
"There was only one team who came to play football and that was us. Everton are not better than us."
The statistics, however, showed that Everton enjoyed greater possession, made more passes and completed proportionally fewer long passes than Liverpool.
Gerrard added: "I thought we were fantastic and stood up to a team that are very similar to Stoke.

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Fuckinel, Rodgers is there 5 mins and Gerrard thinks they're some kind of moral saviours of good football.

Time for KL's daily 'lets defend the retarded things people around Liverpool FC say and do'
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Also:

The stats for those asking relating to Gerrard's comments for long balls in the derby; Everton 14%, Liverpool 17%
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By Dutton | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 10:43 AM
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 20:16 PM
Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has likened Everton to Stoke, claiming their rivals used long-ball tactics during Sunday's Merseyside derby.
The Premier League match at Goodison Park ended 2-2 after Luis Suarez's late 'goal' for Liverpool was ruled out.
Gerrard, 32, said: "Every single time they get the ball to the goalkeeper it comes in long.
"There was only one team who came to play football and that was us. Everton are not better than us."
The statistics, however, showed that Everton enjoyed greater possession, made more passes and completed proportionally fewer long passes than Liverpool.
Gerrard added: "I thought we were fantastic and stood up to a team that are very similar to Stoke.

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Fuckinel, Rodgers is there 5 mins and Gerrard thinks they're some kind of moral saviours of good football.

Time for KL's daily 'lets defend the retarded things people around Liverpool FC say and do'


Good one Stevie G
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They shouldn't put a microphone in front of footballers just after a game, because they're emotional and because they're fucking stupid.
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Liverpool’s managing director Ian Ayre has apologised in writing on behalf of the club for the inappropriate behaviour of communications director Jen Chang towards Liverpool fan Sean Cummins, the creator of spoof journalist ‘Duncan Jenkins’, during a meeting between the pair on 22 August and in the days afterwards.
Cummins, a 35-year-old copy writer from south Manchester, gained 40,000 followers for Jenkins’ Twitter account, where he tweeted misspelled nonsense, malapropisms, Colemanballs and ‘inside’ information that had actually been picked up second-, third- and fourth-hand from around the internet.
Chang became so concerned about ‘perspiring journalist’ Jenkins, who described himself as a member of the blogging ‘paternity’, that he met Cummins in a Manchester restaurant on 22 August and asked Cummins to tweet as Jenkins that a) ‘Jenkins’ was not real; b) ‘Jenkins’ had no club mole.
Cummins detailed the meeting and the aftermath in an explosive blog post on 12 October, in which he outlined a series of accusations against Chang, including that Chang had effectively threatened to ban him from games by cancelling his shared season ticket.
The full extent of Chang’s alleged threats is detailed in the blog (linked here).
Sportingintelligence has established beyond doubt that the meeting took place; that all the tweets and emails within the blog are genuine; and that Liverpool have seen evidence of the above.
Ayre met Cummins in person in Liverpool last week to hear Cummins’ side of the story. Ayre held a second meeting with Cummins in Liverpool today, when he handed over a letter of apology.
Ayre writes in the letter: “Based on everything I have heard and seen, including information provided by the parties involved in the matter, I acknowledge some of the elements you highlight were not appropriate …
“I would therefore like to apologise to you on behalf of Liverpool FC, for any upset and distress this caused you.
“Clearly it is not appropriate for me to comment on how the club is managing this internally, and I trust you understand this.”
Liverpool have declined to comment on what disciplinary action, if any, Chang might now face.
Sources say that Liverpool’s chairman Tom Werner has already rebuked Chang, privately and verbally, for his meeting with Cummins and the way he handled its aftermath, but Chang has declined to comment on this – or provide any public account of his version of events.
Asked on 12 October whether Cummins’ blog was a faithful account of their meeting on 22 August, Chang emailed to say: ‘No, it’s total nonsense’.
He declined to respond to follow-up emails which asked for clarification about what actually happened.
It has subsequently been proved beyond doubt via CCTV footage, emails, texts and phone records that every part of Cummins’ story that it is possible to verify using that evidence has been verified.
What nobody will ever be able to verify is precisely what Chang said to Cummins during a 1 hour, 46-minute lunch on 22 August (right), but Cummins feels vindicated with the apology and acknowledgement that his concerns were genuine.
“As a Liverpool supporter, I fully appreciate that our great club has got a lot more serious issues to handle than what a spoof character was writing on Twitter,” Cummins has told Sportingintelligence this afternoon.
“It was never, ever my intention to distract from those issues, and I was shocked and surprised things unfolded as they have done, over a made-up character who was always clearly trivial.
“All I ever wanted was an apology and I got one in writing today.”
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Tbf Everton were playing very direct and played with a lot of physicality. But on the other hand we tried to do the same but just weren't as good at it
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Also I think Shelvey has loads of potential. He's not as flashy as Sterling due to his position, but I think he's got everything to become a really good midfielder. He's still very much developing and very raw, but I think he's shown this season that he's got ability.
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KL will you now admit Jen Chang is a bellend after your comments in the previous discussion?
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 19:14 PM
KL will you now admit Jen Chang is a bellend after your comments in the previous discussion?

Yes of course, but you can forgive me for just not flat out believing it surely?
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Yes I forgive you.
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IN YO FACE KL! EAT IT!
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The apology letter.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6eO_B0CYAQRyu8.jpg:large
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