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#358141 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
There were really significant swings in the poorer voters though iirc 20%-30%. Richer people were already the natural base for Republicans - and I think there were very slight swings to Clinton in those demos.
Also obviously the poorer people will be disproportionately Black/Latino who generally voted Clinton.
#358102 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
Trump probably won because he actually offered a solution to the working classes. He flipped the Rust Belt because he actually gave people a reason to vote. Does Clinton actually offer any reason for a poor person to vote for Clinton? - (aside from to stop Trump)
#357913 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
It's a very trivial point, but shows fundamentally that the South genuinely is extremely ignorant of the North East. (see also people from Yorkshire being classed as Geordies)
#357297 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
I mean Bush, Kasich, Rubio, Clinton and Christie all got blown away by Trump. A fairly broad spectrum of conservative to centre left. As did 'competent' Osbourne, Cameron and May get blown away by Brexit.
I think people getting there news from Facebook is the defining trait of 2016. All of the fireguards that used to be provided by newspapers and journalists have been replaced by Facebook, the Alt-Right and Demagogue's peddling hatred, scapegoats and easy answers.
How is a politician supposed to compete when they're big argument is things will possibly be marginally better? - When you've got huge populist movements, like Trump or Brexit that are going to magically fix everything.
#355853 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
#355792 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
#355731 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
#355727 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread
Shola
Quite clearly people give a shit. - There's literal front page headlines about it.
Although I do love his well measured and nuanced view on it - which he 100% writes himself.
#355544 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread
Shola
This is a very special year for us follower of the Holy Season.
There's been so much outrage on this and we haven't even got to the main event. (The main event is James McClean)
#355537 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread
Shola
Bollocks,
It's Poppy Outrage Season - the most magical time of the year.
#353560 The Lower League Thread
Shola
Content is probably the right emotion / feeling to be having. Promotion is a must and then Benitez needs to make serious inroads towards the top ten.
#353559 The Lower League Thread
Shola
We're three points above a shite Huddersfield side and 3 points above a shite Brighton side. (And below a shite Burnley, Boro, Hull and Sunderland)
The constant cycle is boring as fuck, Sunderland are the worst side ever for losing to West Ham, Newcastle are tremendous for beating Ipswich. Gayle is better than Benteke / Ritchie is better than Townsend / Shelvey is better than Cabaye (and is basically Gerard).
#353369 The Lower League Thread
Shola
#353356 The Lower League Thread
Shola
Shelvey actually started running! - He's had three not bad games on the bounce (not counting Barnsley as can't comment on that) - Hayden is a weird one, still unsure about him.
Colback playing his natural game has improved Newcastle dramatically the past couple of games, and Shelvey actually being competent. - Still very doubtful he'll actually manage to try over a 38 Premier League Season, where he's up against the likes of actual good players, rather then Karl Henry or Jonathon Douglas.
But still glad to see mostly fans who don't go to the games, offering opinions on games that they haven't seen. The 'Rafalution' has definitely mostly been on the internet. We're still playing dour football in front of an apathetic bored crowd for the most part.
Also fucking hilarious to hear people chant for Benitez - then groan at Darlow for not releasing the ball quickly, it's Benitez' instructions ffs.
#352986 EU Referendum
Shola
#352976 Newcastle Thread
Shola
#351499 The Lower League Thread
Shola
#350424 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
#349266 The Lower League Thread
Shola
It's Rotherham ffs - should be looking to win big. But we let them in because for large chunks of the game we sit right back passing between defenders until they get caught out or punt it long.
Just play football. We've got miles better players than every team pretty much. We let Villa back in, let Norwich back in, we almost let Rotherham in, same with Derby and Bristol City. I'm concerned that we're so predictable and will wilt under any actual pressure - with the only two sides to press us effectively - Wolves and Huddersfield beating us comfortably
#349235 The Lower League Thread
Shola
Whenever Shelvey was in an advanced position we looked like scoring - but then we'll retreat for twenty minutes and have Clark punt ball up for Gayle to not win.
#349217 The Lower League Thread
Shola
btw Newcastle game is being broadcast - so should be able to find streams of it online
#349178 The England National Team
Shola
The Eric Black revelations for example - have him not even trying to take any money for himself - merely suggesting Academy Directors would be willing to recommend players for them to sign up as clients. It's obviously wrong - but it's hardly a massive crime. Seriously doubt Giggs managed to make a killing off his six games or whatever in charge of Man Utd.
I just can't see this in the modern game at most clubs - I reckon if a player ran to the Sporting Director / CEO most clubs have now - alleging they've been intimated by the manager into signing with an agent.- I reckon the manager would get sacked 99% of the time.
#349020 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread
Shola
I remember hearing Jeremy Pearce didn't want to sell Berahino until after Pulis had gone, because he didn't want to be pressured to spend the cash on guys reprsented by Pulis' mates. - The fact Pulis is still there, and West Brom's transfers don't look anything out of the ordinary indicate its probably nothing.
It would be so idiotic to do that these days though. The money earned from being a manager is so much, that the risk of getting sacked (as you've signed inferior players as a favour) and being forced to lower paid jobs would be far too much
#348955 2016/17 Barclays Premier League Thread
Shola
Good to see the classism has started.
fwiw Pep Guadiola is far higher profile, and done far worse.
#348947 The England National Team
Shola
Makes you wonder what the FA did with the Stevens report, he was obviously corrupt.
#348767 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
The 'centre' may switch back away from the far right. Possible May will alienate the working classes who backed Hard Brexit on immigration. When its 2018 and we still are in the EU and haven't triggered article 50.
#348759 The Lower League Thread
Shola
9 games into the Championship and the Rafalution is tearing itself apart. Massively hypocritical from many of the fanbase who condemn this but have encouraged abuse on Pardew, Kinnear, Dummett, Shola, Colo, Williamson etc for years.
Anyway Newcastle/football fans massively overrating a new singing then going massively over the top in the criticism during the first sticky patch, who would have though it?
#348758 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
Corbyn is closer to the centre than Theresa May anyway
#348742 The Night Thread Mk. IX
Shola
Momentum / Corbynites can't seem to get there head round this. Having 500'000 zealous supporters isn't as good having 15 million fairly indifferent ones.
Don't understand what the people 'resigning' from the Labour party are doing. I'm not sure what they are supposed to be 'against'. I find it unlikely Corbyn is the man to deliver the election, and I also suspect he would be content leading Labour in opposition 'morally'. But I don't see how weakening the Labour Party is the answer to that. And in our heart of hearts none of us really believe Owen Smith will see a sudden surge in the polls.
tbf if Labour gets on with it, and unites behind Corbyn, I don't think he'll seem as unelectable in a couple of years, May seems completely out of her depth.
#348728 The Lower League Thread
Shola