What the fuck are you on about with that first bit???

It's about Heysel, how the club blamed everyone else but themselves, it's about Suarez, how the club blamed everyone else but themselves from start to finish, about Michael Shields (absolutely disgusting case), the CL final a few years ago with ticketless fans (UEFA's fault), every defeat against United is the referee's fault (2008, Fa Cup 2010, last weekend to give 3 examples) etc etc etc.

If it's so offensive why were Everton fans not taken to task for singing the same song at the FA Cup Semi last season? Why has nothing been mentioned about United fans singing it until last weekend when a couple of journalists started stirring tensions a week before the big match by suggesting that now suddenly it's all about Hillsborough. I agree it could be interpreted as referring to Hillsborough, and therefore it shouldn't have been sung this weekend. In saying that it wasn't until after the match when the Liverpool fans did what they did but that's a petty and childish reaction really.

The conspiracy theories bit? Ninja claimed your chants are because of that etc.

How did the club blame everyone but themselves from Heysel? Might want to read up a bit on that. And not some of the bollocks that gets written. Plus if it's to do with Heysel then that's pretty disrespectful too.

Oh yeah the Suarez case. Everyone else but themselves again? No, we supported Suarez against Evra's claims, we didn't go and put the blame on anyone else. Well may come across it, seeing supporting Suarez means we discredited Evra but fuck this shifting blame bit.

What's the Michael Shields case got to do with anything in this? The fans thought he was innocent and found it unfair for him to be convicted without a fair trial, okay he was found guilty in the end, but at the time he was unfairly treated and if he was innocent, would have been fucked to get convicted without a trial.

I remember the CL ticket affair (2007 we're on about here right), and although I don't think the ticket forging etc was right, both clubs were a bit fucked over by UEFA? Both got like 17,000 tickets each, with only 11,000 going to the Liverpool fans. UEFA got like over a half. I'd be pretty pissed off if I didn't get a ticket because some rich UEFA gets one. But in the end the ones who forged ended up fucking over their own compatriots, since it meant that fans with real tickets couldn't get in. Very cuntish thing to do.

I've got a terrible knack of remembering games, especially from few years back but I'll try my best. Plus I'm not sure what the chant has got to do with these games. 2008 was Mascherano sending off right? That was the right decision if I remember right, he was running his mouth all game. Don't see where we blamed the ref for that one, but very possible, can't remember. The FA Cup was Gerrard red? Was a pretty harsh decision, but I'm not going to go into that, since it's been talked on here so many times. But it definitely changed the complexity of the game. Plus last weekend you can't say the referee was consistent and his decisions didn't favour you. But games are games, like I see don't see how it's in the argument, since it's nothing to do with playing a victim?

And of course it'll get talked about more, seeing there was talk from both managers of cutting it out, and it was very bad timing too. Doesn't make it better at other times but it doesn't get as much attention.

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Like ? Conspiracy theories? What conspiracy theories? Also how's it got anything to do with Rafa's facts, he complained about Fergie making comments about referee's and getting away with it, which was true? It's mainly about Hillsborough, Suarez and Heysel.

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'Always the victims, never your fault' obviously has some reference to Hillsborough, even if not directly. If it was just about the Suarez affair, it wouldn't exactly work would it? It refers us to having a 'victim mentality', including us being the victims for Hillsborough. It's not hard to grasp, and the timing was way off.

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By jumberto | Permalink | On 26 September 2012 - 23:53 PM

Well Rodgers, Gerrard and Johnson have spent every interview since speaking about how none of the key decisions were right (even though they were) giving the impression they've been screwed by Halsey, this mentality filters down to the moronic 'fans' and we have vile attacks on twitter. Directly or indirectly, key figures within the club have blamed the referee for Liverpool not winning the match, Johnson is even lying saying he didn't touch Valencia, despite video proof that he does and Shelvey accused Fergie of getting him sent off. They're blaming everyone but themselves, and so are the fans, but this result is not a one off.

Exactly.I don't see how chanting 'murderers' at the police re: Hillsborough,is different to the same chant towards Liverpool fans re:Heysel, but one seems to be ok and the other not.

You being serious?

Also United fans chanted 'Where's your famous Munich song?', which quite clearly had no place in a stadium, especially on that day. I heard of one Liverpool fan doing munich gestures but he was promptly thrown out.

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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 26 September 2012 - 01:53 AM

Yes. You don't even get let off for comedy points like Abbott or sympathy points like Carroll.

Yay.

And yeah those people are absolute cunts, but every club has one. They'll get punished accordingly for it.

But yeah, we're also not blaming the loss on anyone, but he was shit in the game.

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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 25 September 2012 - 16:32 PM

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We have two.

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By jumberto | Permalink | On 24 September 2012 - 21:05 PM

In his 7th season and played 30+ in every one.

That's surprised me, he's only 23 or something?

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By SpinSwimScream | Permalink | On 25 September 2012 - 00:21 AM

in terms of actual quality of player it would be stupid not to include him

Yeah I know, but he's only played like 5 games, seems a bit quick to jump in with him, he could turn out to be a massive flop...

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By Bian | Permalink | On 25 September 2012 - 02:56 AM

She claims to be a virgin. We played a drinking game that night and when you pick up one card, you have to reveal something you've never done and one person said "have sex" and she drank.

Take it you drank too then?

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By Fantastic | Permalink | On 24 September 2012 - 21:53 PM

This is the gayest thing I've ever seen.

And I've watched two men jack a young white man in his hole at the same time.

Link or gtfo.

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Has he seriously played over 200 games for Arsenal?

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Was it good with a Russian?

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