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#304815 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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Think they did fan polling and fans wanted a round badge.

I think the only real problem with it is the 'City' writing not following the curvature

but when compared to the other one with the Eagle being sick, the three non-sensical stars and what what I think is a mistake in the Latin its much better.

They did and the round badge was the overwhelming favourite.

That and having the shield above the circle. If they'd had Manchester City on the top and Football Club on the bottom all following the curve it'd make a big difference. Same with the shield not being above the crest.

As you say though, it's still not as stupid as the eagle.
#304758 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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First goal was offside in the buildup, second goal the defender was tripped, the other two were fine. Still though, Arsenal were shit.

From a designer point of view I really don't like the new Man City logo. The modern looking typeface annoys me, the whole thing looks really fan made and it looks too similar to the NY logo. They should have just brought back the 1972 one unchanged.

http://content.mcfc.co.uk/~/media/Images/Home/News/Club%20news/2015/December/LogoNew.ashx?h=450&w=800

I'm not 100% sold on the new one but as I recall, there were copyright issues with the old one, that's why they changed to the eagle. This one ain't perfect but it's better at least.
#303597 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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How much longer is Kompany out for? City really need him back.

As Ninja said Mangala/Otamendi is a terrible partnership.

I can't even remember how/when he got injured.
#303588 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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Don't think I could cope with supporting Man City. Would spend most of days absolutely being frustrated as fuck by Yaya

Welcome to my world. I can't stand him at the moment. He's infuriating.
#303559 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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You've probably been the better side in all fairness just horrendous at the back.

We're just horrendous as a team. We've got a massively unbalanced and vulnerable central midfield combined with a defence that acts almost completely individually.

Arsenal haven't been great but they've actually played as a fairly cohesive team. That goes a long way towards beating us this season.
#303553 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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We are a bad team.
#301949 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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We were absolutely shite today. Watching Pellegrini continue to make the same mistakes - and pick the same under-performing players - is infuriating.

No its just an abundantly stupid point to make.

There's plenty of things to criticise him for legitimately. But the quality of players he's bought is low down on that list. No manager has a 100% record, but we've generally bought well under him. You can argue that we haven't bought enough, that we haven't sold particularly well. But we've bought well in terms of who we've got in.

I don't think anybody's trying to argue against that point. Just that he hasn't got enough out of his players.
#300443 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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I'd love to know what Pellegrini does to try and organise our defence. Even when we keep clean sheets, they play as 4 individuals. It's shambolic.
#295933 Miles Jacobson Q and A on Reddit
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I got shadowbanned (not supposed to be doing this anymore) as I asked him if he planned to get drunk and accuse of paying customers of being thieves again.

I saw the thread and just about resisted the urge to call him a cunt.
#295008 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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Well that was frustrating. Poor performance for the most part, but almost as annoyed at Pellegrini's substitutions as the result. The refusal to bring on Iheanacho until the 84th minute when he's our best option up front was bizarre, allowing Yaya to saunter around misplacing passes for 70+ minutes and persisting with Sterling up-front for almost as long didn't do too much to help either.
#293528 Other payments for premium memberships?
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You don't need a PayPal account to use it though, do you? You can pay through PayPal without having an account which should essentially do the exact same thing as a plain credit card payment.

That's a very timely response there, mate.
#293511 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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He was shit today... He should have wrapped it up when you countered towards the end, he had Sterling and someone else available but was greedy cunt and fucked it up. Sterling wanted the penalty bad as well and I can see him being greedy in games this season

He's been shit all season. He was never going to be as good as Aguero but he's currently managing to make Dzeko look like a determined, mobile and technically-gifted striker, which is pretty incredible.

Sterling's nowhere near as bad. He's a bit greedy I suppose, but his bigger problem is his decision-making. When he cuts in from the left he still has a habit of trying to hold onto it for too long whilst he tries to find the perfect pass or shot.
#293496 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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Bony and Stirling being greedy bastards will be fun to watch over the season

I imagine Bony basically being shit would be more fun for you to watch tbh.
#293042 Capital One Cup 2015/16
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Comfortable 5-1 win for us last night. Great to see a few kids make appearances, Iheanacho in particular was brilliant, scored one and set-up two, he looks like a great player in the making.

#292545 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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Pretty dire match that. I'd have taken a 0-0 at the start but still a disappointing performance. United should probably have won it though.

Biggest problem for us was the lack of any real threat going forward. Partly because United defended well, but also because Sterling and De Bruyne - easily our most dangerous player - were moved to accomodate Bony and Touré, who were largely crap. Too slow, too clumsy and nowhere near sharp enough. We would have been far better off with Sterling up front, De Bruyne on the left and Navas on the right, unfortunately Pellegrini stopped that from happening by taking off Sterling instead of Bony.

Good to see Kelechi make another appearance though, should be getting more minutes if Bony continues like this.
#292218 2015/16 Champions League
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We've been dire so far tonight.
#286431 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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I'm not comparing them, just pointing out that both teams had an equal share of luck. I've seen plenty of City fans elsewhere moaning about 2 of our goals coming from offside while forgetting they had one of their own and should've been down to 10 men.

Yeah, this is my point, it's a false equivalence. Both teams were on the receiving end of poor decisions but they weren't equal and they didn't cancel each other out.

Dele Alli has been awesome so far this season, I'd have him in there starting with Dier regularly now. I don't mind the dirtiness to be honest, its about time we had a central midfielder that likes to get stuck in, he kind of reminds me a bit of Gerrard.

I wouldn't really expect you to mind the dirtiness tbh

It wasn't particularly reckless and it seemed generally to help Spurs, that's what you want. I was just impressed by the maturity/confidence, I assumed he'd be taking a while to adapt to a higher level but he seems to have settled right in.
#286416 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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We actually beat City for once. Yeah we had two offside goals but they had one too and should've had Demichelis sent off. Apart from the first 20-25 minutes, they looked piss poor without Silva and Kompany. That keeper is awful as well.

They were a bit different in fairness. City's was marginally off, both of Spurs' were about a yard off. I'm not trying to deflect from the fact we were shit or anything, but that's a pretty dodgy comparison.

Dele Alli impressed me, despite being pretty dirty in the second half, he looked surprisingly comfortable given he's moved from League One to the Premier League in one summer.
#286361 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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4-1 City have gone from looking unstoppable to being a shambles.

Some awful decisions from the officials but it's scary just how much worse we've looked without Silva (or Kompany).

It hasn't helped that Aguero is playing absolutely abysmally, because he's generally the one who picks up the slack.
#284706 2015/16 Champions League
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Fell away massively after about 30 minutes. The substitutions only made it worse too.
#284701 2015/16 Champions League
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What a pass from Pogba. Finish wasn't too bad either.

Incredible ball, I'm not sure how much Mandzukic got on it though.
#284676 2015/16 Champions League
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You'll win fairly easily tonight.

Not convinced about that at all. We are - and seemingly always have been - a different team in Europe. We've done okay so far, though.
#284647 2015/16 Champions League
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We haven't looked terrible so far.
#284096 2015/16 Barclays Premier League Thread
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Turns out we're not quite as good without Silva or Sterling.
#283765 FM16 Discussion Thread
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I felt exactly the same about the 3D engine, seeing this stuff about CUSTOMISING THE WAY YOUR MANAGER LOOKS does absolutely nothing for me. Maybe the kids are hype for it, I'm not, but then again, I'm not the SI target demographic. I've played FM since CM, I don't watch the matches in 2D or 3D, I play in the non-major leagues and I just want hardcore game mechanic improvements.

Right about now in my life I have time for FM, so I'll always buy it regardless. SI want to attract the new customers who will buy the game every year for the next decade. What's gonna do that? All this crap with Sky Sports, the 3D lark, trying to make FM into an accepted real-life statistical tool, aesthetic tweaks, app ability, social media connectivity, etc. My FM aspirations and SIs P&L will never match up, doesn't bother me as much as it did. Business is business, SI can't go fixing and improving everything they know needs doing, will kill them in the long-term.

Sure, they're always going to have to try and find a balance, that's fair enough. The problem is just how much they are letting slip and what they are choosing to focus on instead. I don't seriously expect them to make all the same choices that I would in their position, but it'd be great if they could focus a little less on the daft stuff, and more on improving existing features and not breaking the stuff already in place.
#283633 FM16 Discussion Thread
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I'm interested in their Prozone deal, hopefully its more than a shitty mutual advertising link-up and brings some real value. I'd love to go Moneyball up in this mug. The one place where FM would be better off being more like a spreadsheet is in the player stats department (not attributes). We could pivot table all sorts of great stuff, key passes vs total passes, key passes in the opposition box, cross completion vs crosses attempted, etc, etc. Combine that with scouting reports that actually take tactics into account (this player is a good crosser, we have a tall ST, our current RM has a poor cross completion, our tactics call for wing play, this lad would be a good tactical fit). Infact you could split the scout reports into;

Transfer and contract
Personality
Attribute analysis
Tactical fit
Current squad needs fit
Misc.

I'm interested in the Prozone deal and all the potential for advanced analysis too.

But I find it more interesting how good an example this is of SI's handling of actual improvements and new features. The number of issues and simple improvements to the analysis tab that have been evident for years is ridiculous. Yet nothing has happened until Prozone were involved. Instead we've had UI changes and editor features hyped up as major additions despite offering little in the way of improvement and in some cases actually serving as a negative (the massive, fuck-off sidebar).
#283607 FM16 Discussion Thread
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Yes it's always been available through the editor, but most of the average players are really not familiar with it and a lot of people don't even know it exists. I think it's a great addition to the game and makes creating your own team simple and easy and anyone can now do it without knowing anything about the editor. It must be a lot faster to do it through the new system as well. And since it's a feature that's basically already in the game, I doubt it has taken too much time to make that simple tool for FM16 so I see no harm done there.

Do you think SI are capable of making mistakes with FM?
#283374 FM16 Discussion Thread
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The game has always been released between late October and mid November, so the release date is not exactly surpsising. And remember that if you pre-order the game you will get to play the beta, which so far has always been released 2 weeks prior the full release. So that would be in the end of October. I personally pre-ordered the game the second it became available and I'm very excited about it, the Fantasy Draft specifically.

And I find people often complaining how there's not much new every year with the new FM release, but you guys have to remember that it's not an AAA title and that it's being released every single year so there's not very much of time to do all the improvements. Most of the sequels come with around 2 to 4 years apart and often with higher budget, so you often get a completely, or at least majorly, new gaming experience. It's not the case with Football Manager, like it's not with any Sports Games which are released every year, and a lot of people seems to forget that. If you compare every third Football Manager, which would be an average time for a normal sequel to be released, you can see some major changes and upgrades.

The multi-platform support is also very much understandable as it's a business after all and they are there to make money. And there is a lot of people who actually do play the game on other platform than a desktop computer so it's even further understandable that they also focus in that area. I don't personally play the game on anything else but a PC, but I find the new cross-platform save support an excellent addition. You can start the game at home and continue it while on the road and then keep playing once you are at home again. Sound very good to me, even though I won't be using it personally.

Overall, I'm probably more excited about a new FM than ever before and I'm a hardcore FM fan who pre-orders the game the day it becomes available, every single year. That said, FM has completely destroyed my social life as I seems to spend thousands of hours in it every year. That's the only negative thing about FM!

Miles, is that you?

I took a look at the release dates of the past FMs a few year back and seeing they went Oct/Nov/Oct/Nov, with Fm15 coming out in November of last year I was hoping for an October FM16. I dig the fantasy draft too, if done right it could be a good gimmick for 1 off matches and also whole-season deals. Opens up the possibility of some fantasy football FM style competitions, all depends on the format SI head down.

I agree people moan too much on new features, the thing I find most frustrating personally is SI purposefully holding off on new features (which from a business standpoint I can understand, but as an FM player I'm sick of the limitations in scouting and training), but more-so the lack of care given to non-English leagues in the game. I'd love to see some new leagues, some working transfer dynamics at lower levels, working finances at lower levels, etc. I'll say one thing, the rep system for managers is the best its ever been in FM, hopefully they don't cock it up for FM16 like they cocked it up a few year back after getting it right one year.

The revamped analysis tab is a great example of that. It's needed work for years, even just simple stuff, but they've only done anything about it when they can chuck the Prozone deal in there too. Personally I'd settle for a release with a few new features, better research in South American and Germany and less fucking about with the UI for the sake of it. That and having a Player Search which does't lag like fuck every time you add a condition.
#283231 Welcome to White Hart Lane
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There's superglue that's easier to loosen than Adebayor's grip to his Spurs contract.

Nothing gets between Ade and his contract. Nothing.
#282108 Transfer Rumours 2015/16
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Everton getting Lennon and Funes Mori full transfer. Shocking that that's the only bit of business they've done when they were in talks with Yarmolenko, van Dijk, de Guzman, and, since they were targeting River Plate players, quite possibly should've gone after the better RP defender in Alvarez Balanta.

Pretty bizarre move, this. They've massively overpaid for arguably the third best centre-back of an Argentine side. So many things have to go right for that to be worthwhile it's ridiculous. Speaks decent English though, that's something.